jcater: got rob's grad announce in mail today Action: derek didnt know if he woudl send it or not who's rob? masterh er nevermind one of the great short story author's of the next generation yeah thats that ticket jamest: dropdown entry is thicker then plain entry box, is it fixable in wxpython driver? derek: hmmm? derek: I remember masterh fixe (~fixe@dsl093-114-172.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: "Client exiting" Action: jcater hires masterh full-time in 6 weeks w00t jcater: can you answer my question to jamest? ra3vat: that's one of our big complaints w/wxPython we've tried and tried as it throws everything off if you know of a solution though, we'll happily apply it :) :( jcater: was that question raised on the wxpython maillist? jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" oh reinhard (~reinhard@M1249P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. ello reinhard guten morgen :) guten morgen, kühler willy ;-) hehe btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-111-217.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "[x]chat" reinhard (~reinhard@M1249P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody" reinhard (~reinhard@M1249P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Remote closed the connection Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. 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I may have sample code. i was thinking about to perform query from separate datasource when i walk through table havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-171-97.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Client exiting" it that seperate datasource query based upon the contents of the initial datasource? havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-171-97.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. yes Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) left irc: "Bye :)" btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: deprogram (~hmason@66.94.69.196) left irc: "BitchX: a modern client for a old world" ra3vat: but you can't setup that seperate datasource as w/ the other as its master? jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: faced some limitation of m/d previously may be should try again deprogram (~hmason@66.94.69.196) joined #gnuenterprise. it rather could be m/d abuse ah steveb__ (~steveb@202.0.63.153) joined #gnuenterprise. kyeran (kye@ip68-97-43-25.ok.ok.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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One of the others would probably be better to ask as I'm not too knowledgeable in this area K Action: kyeran is reading the rest of the website docs kyeran: install everywhere, run everywhere, and read the source :> at least... that's what i'm doing deprogram: s/everywhere/everything ??? s/everywhere/everything everywhere i'm assuming you have access to multiple platforms I possibly could Depends on how nice I am to the ppl accross the street with XP if you run debian on your desktop, you are in luck I do Action: deprogram hasn't tried anything on XP... and doesn't plan on it I apt-get installed several packages last night oh! well. that makes it easy then getting the cvs tree is very useful too Does the CVS tree contain only the tools, or does it also contain modules?? And by lucky happenstance, I happen to have a copy of it floating around on my HDD :> the modules have not left the planning stage yet all focus to date was getting the tools to where they need to be Gotcha just fyi look in gnue/packages that was my understanding as well So would it be more helpfull to me to attach to some tool rather than starting to implement a module?? well what aspect of the project are you interested in? Action: deprogram is busy trying to dig through all the pieces and figure out how they fit together :> I wanted to start implementing the financial module I used to author simmilar chunks of stuff in a previous incarnation seperate thread: Batch Tables are described as a means of IPC, why not tcp/ip sockets??? fixe (~fixe@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: deprogram scratches his head kyeran: in the gnue docs? Yep http://www.gnu.org/software/gnue/packages/docs/main/x69.html About 2/3rds of the way down uh, i think that's the distinction between framework and implementation Possibly Doesn't look like it HAS to be used anyway, just classifying a type of table that might exist possibly right definition of a standard data-processing structure Master/Detail-relationship meaning the primary table has foreign keys into a seperate more detailed table??? it means there is a relationship. i can't derive more meaning from the docs personally i like to cascade relationships _upward_ from a detail table I can't either, and I've never heard the term applied in this context before I bet your one of those 'inductive' people :) I like double linkage, in case I need to go the other way from where I am Action: deprogram considers kyeran: batch tables have the advantage that communication can be asynchronous Action: deprogram is a utopian idealist that is the other application can fill the table within a time span that can be even weeks and always add new records reinhard: was going to mention that. 'stateless' communication and when the gnue user presses the key, gnue processes all the transactions that have accumulated Ahh, hence the 'batch' in the name Action: kyeran is blind sometimes yep nevermind Action: reinhard is dumb sometimes ;-) Action: reinhard is afk again Nick change: reinhard -> rm-away Won't IBM be proud, batch processing :) How do I find out if I have GEIDI installed??? yeah. it's gross. next we'll be using network-structured databases Nothing wrong with batch processing, sometimes it is very usefull For instance, massive compiles when you only have one machine :) Action: kyeran thought DNS was a network-structured Database? indeed. or downloads on a slow connxion Or ANY download on the gnutella network :) uh. no, dns records don't have references to the next (related) record I thought that the 'next server up' could fullfill that role, for instance, the .com server sends you to the blah server for www.blah.com Action: deprogram thinks for a second hmm. i suppose. they have so far been of only academic interest to me (network-structured DBs) I've never really used one either, not a big DB student, I like using them though databases are an addiction Like Snapple! 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Good Evening. hi how are you? Action: siesel saw the result of a postgres UPDATE query some minutes ago. The query took 5 hours and the result was UPGRADE 0 :( :( dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) joined #gnuenterprise. hi siesel huh? you did an update that took 5 hours and it didn't effect any records? one word indexes! heh fixe (~fixe@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: "Client exiting" Action: chillywilly is jonsing for some caffiene jonesing even jonesing? :) it's an expression fiending jcater: I`ll remeber that for the next time :) cw: do you want some expresso, or cappucino? cappucino plz :) fixe (~fixe@dsl093-081-253.chi2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. or vanilla coke ;) good. I'll brew the stuff, you just have to come along ;) hmmm, siesel makes one of the best cappucinos in town :) Action: chillywilly has vanilla coke now chillywilly: Bah! disgusting stuff erm, no Oh yes. NO You cna't fool me. better than pepsi blue or cherry coke Action: dsmith starts longing for a nice cup of tea dsmith (~dsmith@borg.altus.cc) left irc: "later.." btw. is there a tool to copy single tables from one postgres db into another? Something like pg_dump, just for single tables pg_dump pg_dump -t tablename databasename IIRC oh, seems that i've overlooked that. Thanks a lot. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-193-176.netcologne.de) got netsplit. harobed (~harobed@harobed.net1.nerim.net) got netsplit. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-193-176.netcologne.de) returned to #gnuenterprise. harobed (~harobed@harobed.net1.nerim.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. harobed (~harobed@harobed.net1.nerim.net) got netsplit. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-193-176.netcologne.de) got netsplit. Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) got netsplit. jamest (~jamest@hilbert.math.ksu.edu) got netsplit. havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-171-97.wi.rr.com) got netsplit. 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ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. steveb__ (~steveb@202.0.63.153) returned to #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) returned to #gnuenterprise. aaron_ (coyote@CPE-24-163-193-174.mn.rr.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. harobed (~harobed@harobed.net1.nerim.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-193-176.netcologne.de) returned to #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@hilbert.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-193-176.netcologne.de) left irc: "night" esands (~nic@mdr1-port21.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. derek: Some input regarding 'pricing level' from a 'users' pov. (http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20030315_72.html#3) We have multiple pricing levels per item, a seperate discount table per customer, main cost price and an alternative supplier cost price table per item. Ability to set parent/child relations between customers and master parent price lists. I'd consider that all basic functionality for a decent system why don't they give everyone a discount? that's what I wanna know ;) freakin capitalists ;) depends on the business I guess. 8P or who you know sure, why not? that's life. ;) Action: chillywilly goes back ot his hovel people are entitle to make a buck however they want. hovel with an internet connection though. ;) well technically it's not mine I don't think ppl are "entitled" to make a buck that's propaganda Anyway, some nice features would be 'scheduled' price levels.... I pass on discounts as it becomes cheaper for me to provide the goods and services Why? they are entitled to the equal opportunity but the market decides esands: can you elaborate on what you mean by scheduled? Vee2d2: yeah, only because if you don't someone else will. Thus you lose your market. Vee2d2: say for a discount period. ie. During this month we discount the item 10% Also a similar mechanism would be useful to scheduling permenant price changes "entitlement" to make a buck is fascist thinking cause the only way any has any guarantees is if they have a monopoly which isn't good for the consumer Price change list is important. In fact the system I use at persent keeps the last price. Might be nice to have the whole history of changes chillywilly: ? esands: what is your business? Money doesn't grow on trees. Money reflects an agreement between people regarding the value of the exchange of goods. They is NOTHING saying i have to sell you some at this price or you have to BUY something at that price. This is what I mean by entitlement. Anyway. Vee2d2: packaging distributor. Both customer pricing and our cost changes regularily. Action: chillywilly thinks esands is missing his point oh well derek: I know dislike SL, but regarding: http://kt.zork.net/GNUe/gnue20030308_71.html#5 "However, he felt the inability "to reconcile a ledger" indicated a different target audience." I fixed it recent so it can reconcile foreign currency accounts. Action: esands thinks chillywilly and I think different about this. if you think making a profit is an inherit right of an individual, I'd have to disagree ;) esands: So if we added say a start date / end date fields to the tiered pricing table eg: id, sku, qty, from_date, until_date, price then that would satisfy your needs? I don't that I said that. Simplely that the choice in each transaction between two entities is a two-way thing. ie. the buy and sell price is determined by each party. There is no point me sell you things for less than my cost. There is no point be even selling things at less that a reasonable margin. Monopolies are something else again. That choice is removed from the buyer. then I was correct in thinking there it no disagreement and merely agruing with your wording s/it/is/ Vee2d2: I'm just pointing out a good feature set. Implementation is always the tricky issue. ;) Thinking about it though, I'm not sure that would be sufficent. You'd have to have some policy mechanism to deal with overlapping pricing. So the business logic will have to be sorted as well jcater (~jason@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Vee2d2: Its not straight forward though. Pricing is one of the most complex parts of business. 8) Anything that can be done to improve management would be well received yip esands: understand though, that we're trying to keep things simple at this stage, derek is anyway, I dont know how much I help in that effort. =/ esands: I think the focus is to have something from which we can later come back and build on I'd think about normalising the pricing schema away from the stock information and stock levels. However, dealing with discounts based on i) qty breaks, ii) time periods, iii) specific customers, iv) payment basis (ie. cash discounts), v) operator selected. All different things that require some addition information. Vee2d2: certainly brb deprogram (~deprogram@dsc05-cld-oh-1-163.rasserver.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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