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ToyMan (~stuq@170-215-196-92.bras01.glv.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-200.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. morning jamest morning jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-246-74.jet.net.nz) left irc: Excess Flood Remosi (dahoose@port-219-88-246-74.jet.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. did we ever announce 0.5.0 ? Action: chillywilly annouces gnue trout 0.5.0 upside everyone's head :) sigh chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-199-51.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" Deb unstable eh? Any chance of debian stable being supported? i think there were issues w/ that Python? Libraries? db issues? jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-200.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection Action: siesel guesses that libwxgtk-python is causing problems no the packages just arent ported to stable yet afaik we have no dependencies that cant be resolved in woody jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. derek: Excellent But still no web interface? derek: btw. some months ago you mentioned, that you would write a proposal for integrator do you still intent to do that, but you are short of time ? :) or should I try to write a proposal and post it to gnue-dev to get comments/changes etc. ? (althought it would take some time too :) ) dsmith: who cares about web interface ;) i would still like to do it dont take it personally but you include appserver way to much in integrator i think we have competing ideas of what it will be jcater has same vision i have in it much of reports/common will be reused i think it better currently to focus on reports and applications and slowly build to integrator working from the outside in not the other way around derek: Actually, it's the only interface I'm intrested in. the two biggest things you could do to help integrator is develop a rock solid ascii driver and a rock solid xml driver for common/dbdrivers as those will be the two biggest data types folks will use (in my experience) so having good drivers will be essential dsmith: i suggest you write one then, or sucker siesel into it :) as i dont think the core has any over whelming desire to do so we would like to see someone else do it :) Hmmm. Action: derek runs away to finish chores for the day jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-200.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. uaah, stop ... wait ... siesel: yes great, your still there. first, please don't compare appserver and integrator its possibly "my way" thats not "correct" ;) on reusing the reports engine for integrator: at the moment the way integrator should handle things isn't defined jason and I have talked about reports/integrator a little at one time we talked about the possibility of changing the way reports handles some things so that it would almost be integrator that was long ago and I don't recall much jamest: yes there was talk of two things but reports has a plugin output system one tha reports would be modified slightly to do integration as well or that an extensiong would be made called integrator IIRC adapting that to the input system would allow us to do integrator with a good part of the reports code base iirc the big problme is reports is there Action: jamest wishes he recalled more as far as taking data in one format and pushing it out to another jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" the big problem is the 'import' side is not there dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." so i can have a datasourceX i assume there must be some mail traffic on integrator eh? and use reports to pump it out to xml formated however i want Action: jamest logs in to ash to read mail but i dont have a way 'in reports' to import that data back in i think the two things 'integrator' needs to do is provide that import mechanism and provide a ui to do 'mappings' whether that needs to be a separate tool from reports i am not sure Action: derek always envisioned it as separate but somethings in reports have changed so now i could go either way on the subject the last time we talked about integrator, the import and output of integrator should handled through datasources really jcater needs to be here to talk about this i strongly suggest that you put focus on appserver more than integrator or html driver as lots of people ask for those and they are stalled currently let jcater handle integrator derek: sorry, but I need integrator for my master theses. he is already working on it indirectly via reports at the moment I daily use the code I've already commited to cvs well if you committed already why bother asking our opinion kind of like wearing a condom after she is pregnant jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: siesel throws a trout at derek Action: derek must run for real before it gets to hot 75 and climbing outside Because I think that community created software is better than one-mann-projects Action: siesel is on the phone that's why you hit derek w/ a trout? i do it cause I like to Action: jamest thwaps derek see fun! Action: siesel thwaps derek again oh, its really fun :) Are those tofu trouts? dunno i use a thwapstick not a trout Ah excellent. That's probably vegan then. dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey: what's the .deb status? i know we had issues but have been busy i should have time today to dick^H^H^H^Hmess with stuff dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" lupo (~lupo@p5085FBE1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. good day hi lup o Action: derek wonders how long thtis wireless connection will stay up sigh stayed up all of 5 minutes BUT now at least i can do an ifdown eth1, ifup eth1 and it seems to relieve the problem i wish i knew what the hell was shutting down traffic :( your router can time out the connections if they are idle it's what kicks me from irc now im thinking its one of two things a. sprintbroad has serious burstable, but HIGH latency upwards of 40% packet loss at times... this slows LAN connect down, but might be freaking WLAN out b. some irq conflict with the WLAN card at least with your new wireless-tools and using the interfaces instead of jacked up pcmcia stuff i can just ifdown eth1;ifup eth1 and be back in business and toggle easily to normal wired net i thtink starting my 'music' stream will tell me if its a latency problem as i stream all my music off server here in office so that should basically have continuous connection to router going cool, i forgot about music that's cool how many decades of technology has it taken to allow me to use my computer like a normal (unwired) radio grrr music cut out so its not holding the connect open Action: derek REALLY needs to find out the cause of this trust me it's you i'm streaming w/o issue now grr bitch i think usb and carbus both use irq 11 is there a way i can change this? 0:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01) Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 00aa Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11 00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1225 (rev 01) Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 00aa Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at dce0 [size=32] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 00aa Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Dell Computer Corporation: Unknown device 00aa Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03) Subsystem: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 02:00.1 Serial controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet + 56k Modem (rev 03) (prog-if 02 [16550]) Subsystem: Xircom CBEM56G-100 Ethernet + 56k Modem Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11 is there anything that ISNT on irq 11? or is this some dell motherboard hell jamest@capra:~$ more /proc/pci | grep IRQ IRQ 11. [15:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). IRQ 5. IRQ 9. IRQ 5. [15:01] Last message repeated 1 time(s). IRQ 11. this is an inspiron 7500 Action: derek doesnt see the wireless card listed at all in pci devices... latitude:/var/log# more /proc/pci |grep 11 IRQ 11. [15:02] Last message repeated 3 time(s). Ethernet controller: PCI device 115d:0003 (rev 3). IRQ 11. Serial controller: PCI device 115d:0103 (rev 3). IRQ 11. latitude:/var/log# haha I WIN oops latitude:/var/log# more /proc/pci |grep IRQ IRQ 11. [15:03] Last message repeated 2 time(s). IRQ 9. IRQ 5. IRQ 11. [15:03] Last message repeated 2 time(s). latitude:/var/log# the card isn't a pci card it's a pccard only the pcmcia controller would be in the pci listing hmm why is my modem/ethernet pcmcia card listing in the pci list? cause I might be full of shit its listed twice (once for hte modem part/once for the ethernet part) as much shit as you talk in here, i cant imagine there is enough left in there for you to be full of it ;) good thing is the music stream is a great queue for when the connection stops :) er s/cue/queue help how thte hell do you flush routing tables? ipchains -F sigh got it to work different routing ok have things working again painful Action: derek just wants wireless to be stable :( "stable wireless"? what's that? sigh jamest, does it make sense to file bug reports against designer? no sighing please I ask, because some of the bugs are quite obvious. i think it's ok to file them we tried to disable features that didn't work (read hide) so most bugs left are oversights we have any jabber users here? Action: derek set it up this week I'm trying to setup jabber for a company and it does nothing but piss me off debian version is dorked under debian? i got it working want help is it worth it? even the clients seem counter intuitive there are two things you have to do that somehow are not in the instructions the clients are different but once i used it for a few minutes i rather liked it much better than aim clients sure I'll take help what I need is an internal chat network no public crap Action: derek isnt at work so will have wing it first thing is you need to edit /etc/jabber/jabber.cfg and uncomment out the commented lines ah shit that was probably it Action: ra3vat got it working under altlinux but failed under debian no thats not it there is one BIG thing they have fscked up and there is no indication ANYWHERE on how to fix it cept for hours of googling that is unless you have users already setup in the system you see jabber creates user.xml files but there are major problems with this as it appears the protocol only allows you to 'create' an account with plaintext password debian being a good doobie defaults to not allowing plaintext which amounts to a working jabber system in which you can not create any valid accounts :) where do I fix that ok uncomment # JABBER_HOSTNAME (which is then passed to jabberd in the -h switch) # JABBER_HOSTNAME=localhost # JABBER_SPOOL (whic is passed to jabberd in the -s switch) # JABBER_SPOOL=/var/lib/jabber in your jabber.cfg file and substitute localhost for either the machines ip address or valid dns name internal dns localhost has all sorts of fits no shit :) read jabbber doesnt like crap localhost it keeps disconnecting me internal dns should be fine next? now in your jabber.xml file same location change localhost and sub out localhost for whatever you put in that script file jamescooldns or whatever and uncomment mod_auth_plain? yes wtf... i just downloaded in sid and its uncommented out but in woody it wasnt :) loosk like someone fixed it :) ./jsm/jsm.so ok , now what as you stated should be commented out (and don't think this isn't killing me) technically restarting this should be enough (getting help from derek "systemKilla" neighbors) /etc/init.d/jabber stop /etc/init.d/jabber start i've done that note restart is VERY flaky you should be good fire up gabber or some other client and point to jamescooldns name as the server what client is worth a crap? and put in user and password I'm thinking psi click login and it should say hey dickweed you dont have an account 'want me to create one?' at which point you say 'yes' hang on and it should create one and log you in stupid fscking router times out my ssh nat if it doesnt i know why and we can fix i'll try psi Action: jamest doesn't "get" IM i like irc Action: derek too so it rapidly pisses me off when trying to grok these clients also note after you get this working will allow you tighten thtings up some you will also (after working) want to comment out s2s and dnsrv because they try to connect outside to world and 'sync' up yeah, i'll do that onc I'm up if you get issues creating an account you will need to fix permissions on /var/lib/jabber/ and its children sos the jabber daemon has read/write/execute on them thats as much as i configured i got workign at work on friday and had it functioning ok, i'm that far along but didnt go into configuring chat rooms and such now I need to figure out the rest i was trying to do all this from telnet with hand xml and it keep kicking my ass so you have two clients connected and talking? i was about to drive across down with a bat no, but I created an account which is more than before thanks jamest: you all help me way more, nice to have the answer instead of the problem for once btw: i spent about 2 hours googling around to get darn thing working at work on friday as that uncommenting plain auth just isnt documented well lets just keep this between us though though i did find a bug fileed for it rofl consider me a 'slump buster' :) fwiw: does anyone else get suspicious that jabber requires plain text to create an account i.e. thats part of the protocol i did uncommenting plain auth but still no luck, will try monday again it it on woody dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-199-51.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. steveb__ (~steveb@202.0.44.244) joined #gnuenterprise. steveb_ (~steveb@202.0.63.242) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-199-51.wi.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-205-239.netcologne.de) left irc: "Client Exiting" siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-205-239.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-199-51.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@170-215-196-92.bras01.glv.ny.frontiernet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. /quit nighht /quit nighht\quit siesel (jan@xdsl-195-14-205-239.netcologne.de) left irc: "Client exiting" if i output datasource with three fields say first, middle, last in multirow list how could i compound them in one field say fullname with trigger? which trigger type would help? dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." ra3vat: post-change Son Apr 13 02:48:20 CEST 2003 *yawn* InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "changing servers" InsanitY (insanity@co58147-a.olden1.ov.home.nl) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection ToyMan (~stuq@170-215-196-92.bras01.glv.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" lupo (~lupo@p5085FBE1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1" jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-106-200.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater: trigger is not fired with post-change. i got it semi-working with post-focusout but only if i manually walk through that list and on each step change focus from one of the initial fields to another block one problem is that whole column made via is treated as one widget so no events generated when you just walk through --- Sun Apr 13 2003