<jcater> ?/quit sleep
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<Vee> I love getting up in the morning. I clap my hands and say,
<Vee> "This is gonna be a great day."
<Vee> --the late Dicky Fox, the original sports agent
<Vee>   from the movie Jerry Maguire  
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<lupo_> hi there
<jamest_> hi
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<chillywilly> helllo all
<lupo_> hi
Action: lupo_ is away: lunch
<Vee> chillywilly: w00p!
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<chillywilly> hi
<chillywilly> masta w/ a tail
<jcater> chicks dig tails
<jbailey> Are there any front ends other than gtk ready for 0.5.0?
<jbailey> err.
<jbailey> wxpython
<jbailey> =)
<jcater> no
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<carX> I've been messing around all weekend trying to get gnue-forms to work, the wxPython demos work, but gnue-formsdoesn't bring up a window
<carX> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-forms", line 43, in ?
<carX> DB000:     GFClient().run()
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFClient.py", line 151, in run
<carX> DB000:     instance.activate()
<Vee> using the intro.gfd form?
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 311, in activate
<carX> DB000:     self.buildForm(dialog)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 352, in buildFormDB000:     self._uiinstance.buildForm(form, formName)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_base/UIdriver.py", line 252, in buildForm
<carX> DB000:     self._gfObjToUIWidget[form].phaseInit()
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/definitions/GObjects.py", line 80, in phaseInit
<carX> DB000:     self._phaseInit(phase)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/definitions/GObjects.py", line 100, in _phaseInit
<carX> DB000:     inits[phase]()
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_base/widgets/_base.py", line 99, in primaryInit
<carX> DB000:     newWidget = self.createWidget(self._creationEvent, spacer)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/widgets/_base.py", line 1
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/widgets/_base.py", line 150, in createWidget
<carX> DB000:     newWidget = self._createWidget(event, spacer)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/widgets/form/widget.py",
<carX> line 105, in _createWidget
<carX> DB000:     MenuBar(self._uiDriver, self.containerFrame, self._form)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 85, in __init__
<carX> DB000:     self.finalize()
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 96, in finalize
<carX> DB000:     self.__createmenu(_DEFAULT_MENU,m)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 114, in __createmenu
<carX> DB000:     self.__createmenu(contents, m)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 107, in __createmenu
<carX> DB000:     self.__actionMap[userAction.event] = self.addAction(name, parent, userAction)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/MenuBar.py", line 83, in
<carX> addAction
<carX> DB000:     parent.AppendItem(item)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/wxPython/windows.py", line 815, in AppendItem
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/widgets/form/widget.py",
<carX> line 105, in _createWidget
<carX> DB000:     MenuBar(self._uiDriver, self.containerFrame, self._form)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 85, in __init__
<carX> DB000:     self.finalize()
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 96, in finalize
<carX> DB000:     self.__createmenu(_DEFAULT_MENU,m)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 114, in __createmenu
<carX> DB000:     self.__createmenu(contents, m)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/MenuBar.py", line 107, in __createmenu
<carX> DB000:     self.__actionMap[userAction.event] = self.addAction(name, parent, userAction)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/MenuBar.py", line 83, in
<carX> addAction
<carX> DB000:     parent.AppendItem(item)
<carX> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/wxPython/windows.py", line 815, in AppendItem
<carX> DB000:     val = apply(windowsc.wxMenu_AppendItem,(self,) + _args, _kwargs)
<carX> DB000: wxPython.wxc.wxPyAssertionError: C++ assertion "wxAssertFailure" failed in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/wxPythonSrc-2.4.0.7/src/gtk/menu.cpp(1460): unknown keyboard accel
<carX> is what I get
<carX> yeah using intro.gfd
<carX> so the db is irrelevant for now
<Vee> I think I remember getting an error like that when I was using the python2.3 debs rather than 2.2
<carX> hmmm.... my python (rpm) is python-2.2.2-26
<Vee> that's good, then
<jamest_> gack!
<Vee> that's a long trace back isnt it? =)
<carX> yeah its huge
<carX> what is the installation tree supposed to look like, the docs say that in the gnue dir there should be a gnuef dir but I never got one
<chillywilly> it was renamed to forms
<carX> okay I have that
<carX> here's my python rpms 
<carX> python-2.2.2-26
<carX> gnome-python2-bonobo-1.99.14-5
<carX> gnome-python2-gconf-1.99.14-5
<carX> gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-1.99.14-5
<carX> gnome-python2-canvas-1.99.14-5
<carX> gnome-python2-1.99.14-5
<carX> python-egenix-mx-base-2.0.4-1
<carX> python-optik-1.4-2
<carX> rpm-python-4.2-0.69
<carX> python-devel-2.2.2-26
<carX> python-mx-DateTime-2.0.4-1
<carX> libxml2-python-2.5.4-1
<carX> gnome-python2-applet-1.99.14-5
<carX> and here are my "wx rpms
<carX> wxGTK-2.4.0-fr2
<carX> wxGTK-gl-2.4.0-fr2
<carX> wxGTK-devel-2.4.0-fr2
<carX> wxPythonGTK-py2.2-2.4.0.7-1
<carX> wxBase-2.4.0-1
<carX> am I missing something?
<jamest_> what distro?
<carX> redhat 9
<carX> gnome 2
<jamest_> and you installed from source?
<carX> yeah
<jamest_> 0.5.0 or cvs?
<carX> 0.5.0
<carX> As an aside I haven't set any path or system variables for GNUe
<carX> are there any?
<jamest_> no
<jamest_> gnue should istall to /usr/local/gnue
<carX> y
<jamest_> then gnue-* scripts are created in /usr/local/bin that setup the environment you need
<carX> they are also in place
<jamest_> this looks alot like an issue we had with wx 2.2
<jamest_> that we seemed to not happen in wx2.4
<carX> are you referring to this wxPythonGTK-py2.2-2.4.0.7-1
<jamest_> yes
<carX> I couldn't find any other rpm for redhat than that one, what is the compile from source like
<jamest_> IIRC it's puking on the strings we're passing into the menu constructor
<carX> easy/hard/issues/smooth?
<jamest_> i'd hate to have you compile from source
<carX> why 's that
<jamest_> more work for you, it's in a non-standard place for other rpms that expect it in the normal place
<carX> I see
<carX> I can try and find  a newer rpm 
<jamest_> i bet the issue is on our end
<jamest_> we've got wx2.2isms and wx2.4isms
<jamest_> and try to do the right thing 
<carX> That's cool...  the wxGTK rpm I have here installed is the only one offered for python 2.2 on the wxPython site
<carX> I see a bunch of mandrake rpms, is it going to kill me to try one of those on a redhat system?
<jamest_> i don't know
<carX> I'll try the srpm and install it manually
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<chillywilly> when was the last post to gnue-dev?
<jbailey> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 04:30:23 +0200
<jbailey>         for gnue-dev@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:38:17 -0500
<jbailey> (use the second one, it's the MTA time from exim on mp)
<chillywilly> hmmm
<chillywilly> I know my IP changed so I got dropped off some lists
Action: chillywilly contemplates moving libertyetech.com to Jon's server
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<revDeke> jcater: you need to take you and your programmers to Nashville tomorrow
<revDeke> it is _very_ important
<revDeke> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/04/21/188250.shtml?tid=103
<revDeke> at a minimum send faxes
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<jcater> gack
<revDeke> jcater: i suggest you go down there and shove an old vinyl record up the MPAA reps booty (sideways)
<revDeke> and then calmly say
<revDeke> "can you hear me now?"
<revDeke> how far is nashville?
<revDeke> 6 hours?
<jcater> 2 hrs
<revDeke> ah
<revDeke> i was thinking like 400 miles
<revDeke> but must be more about 200
<jcater> yeah
<jcater> something like 210 or so
<jcater> may be closer to 2.5 hrs
<jcater> though I've made it in 1.5 before
<jcater> (I was in high school at the time, let's not go there :)
<revDeke> rob got a new bike, he could make it about 20 hrs ;)
<revDeke> for some reason i was thinking nashville was on the far east corner of TN
<revDeke> looking at map now its nearly dead center
Action: revDeke wonders what the heck i was thinking
<jcater> that's knoxville or chattanooga
<jcater> nashville is pretty center
<jcater> the other two are about an 8 hr drive
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<jcater> though I would much rather go to one of the other two :)
Action: jcater doesn't like nashville
<jcater> it
<jcater> it's a very "artificial" city, imho
<jcater> lots of new stuff, but no history
<jcater> very "en vogue"
<jcater> if that makes sense
<chillywilly> when does jcater makes sense?
<chillywilly> ;P
Action: jcater thwaps chillywilly
<chillywilly> only to the python interprter ;)
<jcater> I usually make sense to myself
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Action: revDeke wonders where they will find record executives in a poor little southern village like nashville
Action: revDeke thinks most poeple fail to realize nashville is the music captial
<revDeke> er capital
<revDeke> not Los Angeles or New York
<revDeke> certainly country, gospel and christian music all has its roots in nashville and that makes up for an extraordinary number of record sales
<revDeke> must run
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