bite me biotches damn it is storming like a mofo chillywilly: yeah Action: jcater ponders how a mofo would storm jamest: how to close a dialog window? jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "sleep" Yeeeeha!!! Coffee! Coffee! Coffee! Java-Jav-Java! Hoo Hoo! Hee Hee! Ha Ha! jamest: ok, found it Action: icltlfatppl is away: I'm busy Action: dsmith gets djbdns working on his firewall boooo djb can kiss my a$$ erm, did I type that? dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1d-224.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." fixe (~fixe@dsl017-020-123.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) got netsplit. icltlfatppl (~icltlfatp@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) got netsplit. Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) got netsplit. fixe (~fixe@dsl017-020-123.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) got lost in the net-split. icltlfatppl (~icltlfatp@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. fixe (~fixe@dsl017-020-123.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Stoke (~stoker@dpvc-141-149-254-50.buff.east.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer reinhard (~reinhard@M1249P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~SachaS@dialup-196-193.wasp.net.au) left irc: Excess Flood SachaS (~SachaS@dialup-196-193.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M1249P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "This sentence no verb" Is there a recent (since 13-Dec-2002) version of Developers-Guide.pdf? Nick change: esands_ -> esands ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port6.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch! Action: ajmitch looks around furtively hey hi Action: ajmitch wishes jeff had source packages for gnue ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS_ (~SachaS@dialup-196-91.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Got an interview! yay !!!! in the words of a notorious troutslinger yay!!!! good luck many blessings jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jeff! tooot ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. heya derek word up hi there derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) hmmm Action: jcater thinks the dneighbo_ login was a coy sneaky, sneaky derek Action: chillywilly thinks dneighbo_ just doesn't love like he used to they make pills for that don't they? yea viagra but in yoru case your it's viagra for the goat the goats are frisky enough for my tastes this week they don't need help chillywilly, jcater: Thnaks. np umeboshi (~umeboshi@pcp01317072pcs.hatisb01.ms.comcast.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hello hello fello Mississippian :) err, fellow i was wondering if anybody in here knew how to make debs Action: chillywilly points at ajmitch out of the cvs, instead of using the cvs-setup oh... i found some stuff in the obsolete section but it does'nt seem to match what's currently in the gnue tree i just ran across this the other day, and have been interested in it jbailey does our debs but hasn't put his stuff in cvs ok we haven't done too much since the last release which has .debs (notice the channel topic) only those are for unstable we don't have recent ones for woody unfortunately it's ok i'm runnning sid on the desktop, but i'm interested in backporting to woody with pygtk2 and python 2.2 i've been messing with it for a while now, but it seems too big for me to get my head around all at once :) i've been doing work along similiar lines but i'd rather ditch most of what i've done and learn the gnue system and port some of my stuff to it cool all of my work prevoiusly has been in python, pygtk, pypgsql, mxtools, kjbuckets kjbucktets has a nice graph object which has worked well for me hmm I've heard the name kjbuckets but don't remember what it is it is sets and graphs for python it can hold hashable types i basically overload the __hash__ call to ensure uniqueness in complex types i made a system to profile a bunch of (foos) and then take each foo and decribe it according to the profile, take some pix of it and send it to ebay that's a hell of a web page :) you can see it at evalueville.com we were the top volume seller a year ago all done with diskless debian systems but the pressures of the environment made some of my code sloppy python, debian, diskless and there are large sections of deprecated functions, classes, etc. welcome home :) we've missed you well the db wan't diskless ;) anyway, i was a private consultant, but mr evalueville believes he exclusively owns all my code so i have to fix/convert it anyway "believes"? i might as well not reinvent the wheel again sp? how can anyone else own your code? he believes something very strange :) the customer thinks "i paid money for this 'thing'" so it's mine i've seen that a little i never took it from him, though he seems to think i can't use it elsewhere i could just rewrite it, i've been wanting to learn another language anyway but, i landed an even better consultant 'job' where i can really harness more ability and not be stuck with just ebay business :) which also put me more to learning what y'all have already acheived backporting to woody might be easier if jcater still has his old, old woody setup for making debs jbailey is using something that's in sid but not woody ok, the biggest problem with woody i see is pygtk that one is in packaging/debian/ Action: jcater kept his in cvs =) it needs to be backpoted too ok i've also not used wxwin before how is it compared to gtk? it wraps gtk i found in gtk, i had to make a few wrapper classes to keep things wimple oops simple have you heard of pyro > ? python remote objects? it's pure python, and it allows you to distribute python objects across networks it's pretty neat, but it can't distribute c modules only pure python pyro.sourceforge.net yeah we've looked at pyro do you use the appserver in gnue similiarly to distribute objects to wxwin clients? jamest: Just recompile the debhelper. compile [17:08] Last message repeated 1 time(s). hmmmm that's one of those C things isn't it bbl jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise. i'm going to go play around some more, i mainly dropped in to let y'all know i'm interested in working on this system :) i'm really pleased to hear this. more helpers are always welcome :-) yes definitely I' cool, you'll hear from me later after i've worked it some more take it easy :) umeboshi (~umeboshi@pcp01317072pcs.hatisb01.ms.comcast.net) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). jcater: which books did you want to have? Action: jcater was just kidding but it was Knuth's Digital Typography, iirc uh [17:15] Last message repeated 1 time(s). Action: jcater thinsk I found it at a local university library wasn't that 4 or 5 volumes large? no, that was another one I forget the name icltlfatppl (~icltlfatp@adsl-66.218.46.51.dslextreme.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" chillywilly: Back to work! Action: dsmith cracks the trout whip ouch! "The Standford Graphbase" ? Standford? Stanford One of Knuth's books. http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/sgb.html Thought it might have been what jcater meant. But he's gone. oh yes jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client exiting" jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-169-178.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. lupo (~lupo@pD9E68D05.dip.t-dialin.net) left #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M1249P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "When all else fails, read the instructions" dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-223.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "later.." ToyMan (~stuq@170-215-246-45.bras01.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-083-220.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@170-215-246-45.bras01.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-169-178.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Client exiting" jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-169-178.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1c-223.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wb dsmith jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ah, jeff. when are you going to put your source packages up? :) i'm supposed to help w/ some bugs in the packages ok however my day off to gnue turned into day off to work from the house :( I was wanting to look over them however the source packages do not appear to be there now I'm gnue'n ahhhhhh he'll have them lying around ajmitch: They're not much different than the current packages uploaded jbailey: hmm ok won't take you much to upload them then :) If we used a reasonable build system, they'd be identical. =) Action: jbailey hides. ajmitch: Not at all. 0.5.0 just needs to be have some cosmetically annoying bugs removed. ok if only there was a reasonable build system instead we're stuck w/ distutils and autotools ant? ;) lol no, write your own makefile one makefile for all bash? brainf***! erm, what's that new lang that consists of all swears? although the idea of writing the build system in C# makes me quiver in delight delight? ircChilly? heh wow, jbailey really did go into hiding I'km cleaning my livingroom. We have 3 people coming to stay in out 550^2 ft appartment with us tomorrow. I'm tearing down a house tomorrow.. weeee! Should be receiving a 30yd rolloff 1st thing in the morning.. welcome back ajmitch, btw. =) Action: ajmitch is not here --- Fri May 2 2003