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<chillywilly> hi Re
<chillywilly> reinhard: 
<chillywilly> bah
<chillywilly> silly nick completion
<reinhard> hi chillywilly
<ra3vat> anyone could tell what phone code for New York is?
<Vee2d2> ra3vat: 212 347 315 516 518 646 631 607 585 716 718 914 917
<ra3vat>  1-888-SPIN-797 (7746-797) x 411 
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<ra3vat> i'm discovering how to interpret this one
<Vee2d2> 888 is a toll free code
<Vee2d2> like 800
<Vee2d2> IIRC
<ra3vat> and what is 411
<Vee2d2> information
<Vee2d2> like 911 is for emergency
<ra3vat> is it additional code you dial after connection?
<Vee2d2> I dont think I understand what you mean. You can dial the 3 numbers and get connected with emergency services (fire, police, medical, etc) instantly.. I s'pose the same is true of 411, but I dial 1411 out of habbit, not sure if the 1 is actually necessary..
<Vee2d2> ^ '3 numbers' = 911
<ra3vat> may be 1-888-7746-797 would be ok for long distance call
<ra3vat> overseas
<Vee2d2> I guess so, I dont do much overseas calling.. When my wife calls to thailand she uses an operator's assistance
<ra3vat> Vee2d2: ok, thanks a lot
<Vee2d2> phone numbers get formated funky abroad? how are they formated there?
<Vee2d2> er actually, you have the prefix and suffix switched there
<ra3vat> looks the same for moscow's numbering
<Vee2d2> it would be x-xxx-xxx-xxxx
<ra3vat> we just have that toll free services in baby stage :)
<Vee2d2> we had things setup where people could call a local number at our office and it would get routed somehow to our plant in puebla, mexico..  never learned exactly how it was done though.. 
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<asm1> i've failed to launch gnue tools from win32 setup package. where i can get information about the problem?
<ra3vat> asm1: what was the problem?
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<ra3vat> hello btami
<ra3vat> <asm1> i've failed to launch gnue tools from win32 setup package. where i can get information about the problem?
<btami> hello
<btami> what is the problem ?
<btami> asm1: you here?
<ra3vat> asm1: am i right you are from russia? well, me too
<asm1> i  try to start applications with start->programs menu but can't see anything. (including error messages). where i can find any logs or something like it?
<asm1> ra3vat: speak russian?
<ra3vat> asm1: sure :)
<btami> asm1: try to install debug-on version
<asm1> ra3vat: codepage? can we speak russian here?
<ra3vat> koi8r, let switch to separate channel 
<ra3vat> let's
<asm1> ra3vat: create it
<ra3vat> asm1: trying already via /msg and /invite, you have to respond somehow 
<ra3vat> btami: if I did binary installation, is it possible to run gnue from command line?
<btami> yes
<btami> it has gnue-forms.exe in gnue-installed-dir\bin
<ra3vat> btami: i do not need wxpython at all if i use native win32 driver?
<btami> for forms you don't
<btami> but for navigator and  reports you need
<btami> ra3vat: you use gnue-reports? (just curious)
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<ra3vat> btami: i did a few examples, currently not in heavy use
<btami> ok
<ra3vat> how are up to date cvs snapshots on the website?
<btami> there are hourly, i think
<btami> they are autogenerated
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<dneighbo_> man i wanted to see you all speak russian :(
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Action: derek wonders how bad the netsplits have been
<ra3vat> derek: you are kidding or what? :)
<derek> well when i come back and my id is dneighbo_
<derek> the like 4th choice on my nick list
<derek> i assume it's cause we got split 3 times in a matter of 5 to 10 minutes ;)
<ra3vat> bbl
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<derek> sup dawg
<jcater> word
<derek> jcater i have networkign question for you
<derek> i have home network and use an old p133 80mb as server
<derek> it runs samba
<derek> and i have other linux boxes connecting to it with samba
<derek> but copying files to it is DOG slow
<derek> all 10MB wired lan
<derek> what is best way to find out what is causing the slowness?
<derek> all clients are slow copynig to it
<derek> so i dont think its bad driver on the client
<derek> or bad cable etc
<derek> i thought it might be a 'routing' problem
<derek> but if i traceroute it goes 1 hop right to that machine
<derek> only other thing i can think
<derek> is i stream music from that same server to one of the clients (which would create a slight load)
<derek> however its slow even if i dont stream
<jcater> this a sid box?
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<derek> and using konq to browse it is PAINFUL
<derek> um yeah all sid boxes (iirc)
<jcater> apt-get install iftop
<derek> on client or server
<jcater> server
<jcater> it shows all network activity on that server
<jcater> coming and going
<derek> doh this is 'testing'
<jcater> that'll tell you if the streaming is taking up lots of bandwidth
<derek> server that is
Action: derek slaps self
<derek> why oh why
<jcater> it may be in testing
<jcater> I know it's not in woody
Action: derek recalls this used to be a desktop like 3 years ago
<jcater> though I did find a backport for woody
<derek> the power of debian is you dont have to reinstall it
<derek> the sucky part of that is bad decisions you made 4 years ago can haunt you ;)
<derek> tis in testing
<derek> egads what a bloated program
<derek> 86k
<derek> no self respecting program can useful being that small ;)
<reinhard> i don't know a windows program with a splash screen smallen than 86 k
<reinhard> i mean 
<reinhard> where the splash screen is smaller than 86 k
<reinhard> not the program :)
<jcater> lol
<derek> :)
<derek> reinhard: i think most application 'icons' are bigger than 86k nowadays
<reinhard> yes true
<reinhard>  :)
<derek> hey iftop is yummy
<derek> i dont know how to 'read' it
<derek> or 'interpret' it
<derek> but it looks yummy
<derek>                                                                                 192.168.0.101              => latitude                    0.1M    0.1M    0.1M
<derek>                            <=                            17.2K   17.5K   17.4K
<derek> looks pretty small to me
<derek> odd
<derek> grrr 
<derek> oldest put youngest in bath
<derek> and then tells me she has to go to school
<derek> bbl
<derek> thanks for iftop suggestion
<chillywilly> streaming music can eat all available bandwidth unless you limit it
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<jcater> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=2&u=/nm/20030515/od_nm/life_goats_dc
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<jcater> wb
<chillywilly> sup G
<jcater> nuttn much
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<chillywilly> for real
<chillywilly> since he's sitting right next to me
<jcater> just hanging around waiting for Futurama to come on
<chillywilly> cool
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<chillywilly> we're watching gilmore girls
<chillywilly> heh
<jcater> freaks
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