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<chillywilly> wtf is crystalspace?
<derek> crack for free software gamers best i can tell ;)
<derek> chillywilly: you are a cups stud no?
<chillywilly> ah
<chillywilly> I use it yes
<chillywilly> I have it working over samba too
<chillywilly> so i can print to a windows printer
<derek> spiff
<derek> why is it when i apt-get all the cups stuff on machine A
<derek> it shows me the drivers for my printer
<derek> but i apt-get the same stuff on machine B
<derek> and it doesnt so me the driver :(
<derek> basically i had a deskjet 842c and had it working on machine A
<derek> and using http: cups working for machine B too
<derek> i bought new samsung laserjet
<derek> and got it working on machine A
<derek> but machine B cant configure it cause i cant find the driver :(
<derek> can you help me :)
<chillywilly> the driver is missing in the list?
<derek> yes
<chillywilly> did you need an extra package?
<derek> i apt-got like every package dealing with foomatic-db and cups
<chillywilly> ok
<derek> i did same thing on second machine and i can't see it
<chillywilly> sam version of cups?
<chillywilly> same
<derek> i.e. the driver shows up on machine A and not machine B
<chillywilly> same debian distro?
<derek> chillywilly: let me triple check
<derek> yes debian unstable for both
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<derek> and on the machine it works gimpprint is hosed i think
<chillywilly> hmmm
<chillywilly> you have nothing but the best luck
<chillywilly> one can only hope to be as lucky as you
<chillywilly> ;)
<derek> i just did apt-get and it updated a few packages so will try again
<derek> got side tracked trying to see how to fix java in mozilla 1.3
<chillywilly> erm...I think I need to use a special plugin that was compiled w/ gcc 3.x
<chillywilly> for java
<chillywilly> needed
<chillywilly> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           70 May 14 17:18 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so*
<derek> yeah
<derek> i was hoping there was a 'package' but seems like no such dice
<derek> YEAH YEAH YEAH
<chillywilly> see the dir
<derek> now printing works on machine number two
<chillywilly> ns610-gcc32
<chillywilly> gcc 3.2 compiled biotch
<derek> its been broken for some time
<derek> just finally getting around to try to fix it
<derek> i actually successfully got our soccer club to offer non java navigation!!!!!!!!!!!
<chillywilly> heh
<derek> doood: sugar hill gang - rapper's delight just came up in my playlist.... talk about the 'way back machine'
<derek> chillywilly: you like kutless?
<chillywilly> uh, yea man they're my fav...not
<chillywilly> who?
<derek> who?
Action: chillywilly is so out of the loop it isn't funny
Action: derek thwaps chilly
<chillywilly> who is kutless
<derek> http://www.toothandnail.com/kutless/
<derek> go to media there and download your touch
<chillywilly> ok
<chillywilly> yes, I was going to ask you about some good chriatian streaming stations
<chillywilly> christian
<derek> www.radiou.com
<chillywilly> w00t
<chillywilly> ;)
<derek> or if you want christian mtv streamed check out www.tvulive.com
<derek> it ROCKS
<derek> we get it on skyangel satellite
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<dcmwai> hi :)
<derek> anyone here use mplayer to play quicktime (.mov) files?
<dcmwai> no :)
<chillywilly> derek: you can get a plugin...I think I might've played a .mov w/ mplayer before
<chillywilly> codec or whatever
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<Stoke> chillywilly (2day delayed reply): nah not stoked, just on a constant bender :P and the nick is partial last name
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<derek> chillywilly_: i figured it out last night there is a qt6codecs package in marliatt (sp) debian repository that worked
<jamest> pr0n issues?
<derek> no wanted to oddly enough see a commerical
<jbailey> I usually use that package for movie trailers, etc.
<derek> band i have tracked since they were very small indie got signed by a major
<derek> and their new album has commercial spots on mTV
<derek> i dont watch mTV so i wanted to see the commericial
<Vee2d2> you no watchy the eMpTyV?
<jamest> but, but, but
<jamest> how do you keep up on the real life stories of common folks like those on "the real world" if you don't watch MTV?
<Vee2d2> I cant handle how a station purporting to be a "music" channel goes so far off that focus with shows like that.. 
<Vee2d2> Vee get mad.. Vee Smash! Vee Crash! 
<derek> sorry their commericials will be on Mtv2
<derek> which actually does play music (but i still dont watch it)
<derek> jamest: the only Mtv show i find myself watching (if i happen to see it while surfing) is punk'd with ashton kutcher
<Vee2d2> I dont get that, must be on the cable company's 'digital' plan
<derek> any vcd makers here?
<derek> i turned an .avi into a vcd, but it made a few files
<derek> if i burn to cd what do i need to do?
<jamest> a cd burner
<jamest> a blank cd
<jamest> maybe k3b?
<derek> imean i have a videocd.bin and videocd.cue
<derek> and gtoaster
<derek> is there any 'special' things i have to do
<jamest> sigh
<derek> or do i just burn them
Action: jamest read that as goatster
<derek> i tried cdeasybakeoven and k3b originally neither worked
<jamest> ah, then I don't know
<derek> unable to copy cd2cd which i do most of the time
<jamest> apt-cache search vcd
<jamest> gives us
<derek> gtoaster while sucky seemed to do the job
<derek> i ahve all the vcd stuff
<jamest> vcdtools - Creates Video CD (VCD) filesystem images
<jamest> but I've not done it
<derek> never mind i found jcater's cheat sheet
<derek> cdrdao write --device 0,0,0 --speed 4 videocd.cue
<derek> but i am not sure what parameters to use for --device
<derek> grr anyone know how to convert an wmv to an avi?
<jamest> nope
<jbailey> mencoder I think can do it.
Action: derek goes to look for mencoder
<derek> jbailey: to open a can of uncontainable worms
<derek> think you can .debianize the latest dcl release?
<derek> and yes i still plan on making it a GNU Enterprise tool
<derek> OR
<derek> plan on you helping me understand packaging enough to take it over so you arent wasting time maintaining something you are not directly involved with
<jbailey> You can't upload it, so there's no point in you maintaining it.
<jbailey> The ideal is that you should find a DD that cares about DCL.
Action: jbailey pokes ajmitch.
<derek> jbailey: i want to become a DD
<derek> so i mean as part of the process wanting to maintain it will help me meet that goal :)
<jbailey> I can work on it after I finish the GNUe updates, which is waiting on me finishing the cdbs hacking that I started yesterday.
<derek> rofl
Action: derek understands
Action: derek isnt in a huge hurry
<jbailey> derek: Your first 3 steps are:
<jbailey> 1) Get your GPG key signed by a DD
<jbailey> 2) Read the packaging and policy manuals.
<jbailey> 3) Find a sponsor.
<jbailey> I can do #3 if you have #1 and #2 done.
<derek> maybe over the weekend you can tell me how to do it (and i can do and send to you for upload) this way in future i can do and send to you for upload until i get my steps done
<derek> jbailey: you were going to check a database to find a developer near me to sign my key
<jbailey> You're just a demanding little shit, aren't you? =)
<wtg> can someone explain how the web ui driver is going to be done ? ... are you guys thinking of running a mini web server to server the forms up or some other way ?
<jamest> DD?
<jbailey> derek: The DCL packaging is annoying because it's a PHP app.
<jamest> debian developer?
<jbailey> t
<jbailey> derek: What's the time frame for turning it into a real app?
Action: jamest feels an almost unimaginable amount of pity for the current DDs known that DN will be in their midst
<jbailey> jamest: 'sokay.  We'll see if he makes it in or not. =)
<jbailey> jamest: You have to have an unbeleivably thick skin for politics. =)
<jbailey> (and flameage)
<jamest> dn: yeah, that apt thing is broken.  apt-get update reformts the hd
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<derek> jbailey: you rock mencoder worked!
<derek> bbl more meetings
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<reinhard> grrrr
<reinhard> http://lwn.net/Articles/34940/
<reinhard>         They've also tweaked OOo to save files in Microsoft Office
<reinhard>         formats by default, rather than the standard OOo formats.
<reinhard> Ximian is starting to get really annoying
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<reinhard> bye all
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<jamest> l8r
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<siesel> hi
<jbailey> Where's dyfet when you need him? =)
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<siesel> oh, no. Using dcl I got a: """
<siesel> Warning: Unable to create '/usr/share/dcl/www/attachments/tck/2/302/fixHotKeyAsset': Permission denied in /usr/share/dcl/www/inc/class.boFile.inc.php on line 71
<siesel> Could not copy uploaded file to destination directory!
<siesel> """
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<Vee2d2> I have found the following Python executables. Please
<Vee2d2> choose the Python installation you would like to use.
<Vee2d2>  
<Vee2d2>   [1]  /usr/bin/python2.2 (Current)
<Vee2d2>   [2]  /usr/bin/python2.1
<Vee2d2>   [3]  /usr/bin/python2.2-popy-config
<Vee2d2>  
<Vee2d2> Please enter the number of the Python executable to
<Vee2d2> use [1-3] or enter "q" to quit. [1]
<Vee2d2> -popy-config
<Vee2d2> ?
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<derek> any wget masters here?
<derek> trying to download all files from a yahoo group but its not liking the redirect
<ajmitch> curl?
<derek> hmmm
<derek> ajmitch: is it easy to use>?
<ajmitch> dunno :)
<derek> looks like wget has 'redirection' issues
<derek> curl kind of freaks out
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<jcater> Vee2d2: the script simply looks for /usr/*/bin/python*
<jcater> python2.2-popy-config is probably not a python executable, just some thing popy installed
<derek> jcater you familiar with wget or curl
Action: derek is FIGHTING trying to get eitehr to download all the files from a yahoo group :(
<derek> seems they have bugs
<chillywilly> wget -r doesn't work?
<derek> no
<chillywilly> wget -r http://whatever.com
<chillywilly> wget -r http://whatever.com/goat-pr0n/
<chillywilly> ;)
<derek> Redirection cycle detected.
<chillywilly> heh
<derek> seems some sites that redirect back to themselves confuses wget
<chillywilly> there's an option that says only go so deep I think
<derek> http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22redirection+cycle+detected%22&btnG=Google+Search
<chillywilly> l,  --level=NUMBER       maximum recursion depth (inf or 0 for infinite).
<derek> how long should it take to make a vcd of like a 5 minute avi?
<chillywilly> I dunno how the heck you would do that
<chillywilly> I had the matrix reloaded in SVCD format already
<chillywilly> weas just .bin and .cue files
<chillywilly> I picked burn image in nero burning rom and pointed it at the cue
<chillywilly> file
<chillywilly> and it burnt the .bin onto the disk
<derek> hmm it was about 18meg video
<derek> i finally stopped it on like hour 2
<derek> will try it overnight
Action: derek cant believe he is compiling wget
<chillywilly> heheh
<chillywilly> http://www.mail-archive.com/wget@sunsite.dk/msg04085.html
<chillywilly> that's what that dude said to do
<chillywilly> you pull cvs?
<derek> well cvs doesnt get same error
<derek> but not sure how to fix this
<derek> seems its not 'logging in'
<derek> grrr passing it a cookies.txt file
<derek> gets me further but says im not a member
<derek> sigh i was logged in as wife for galeon but didnt check 'save on this computer' so it was trying to login as me
<derek> ok chillywilly now i need help :)
<derek> it recognized the login
<derek> it grabbed the index.html page
<derek> how do i get it download all the 'links'
<derek> i.e. to follow the links
<derek> i used -r
<derek> the problem is there is a url
<derek> myurl.com/files/
<derek> that has a single index.html with a bunch of links
<derek> i want to read that index.html and ahve it go grab the files
<chillywilly> -r should do that
<chillywilly> it's a recursive web-suck
<derek> hmm its not doing it
<derek> /home/dneighbo/cvs/wget/src/wget -r -v --load-cookies /home/dneighbo/.galeon/mozilla/galeon/cookies.txt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/undercovercoupons/files/
<derek> is what i do and i get
<derek>  groups.yahoo.com/group/undercovercoupons/files/index.html as only return
<jbailey> You still on that?
<jbailey> You'd think by now you'd have just pulled up a browser. =)
<derek> well there are a crap load of files
<derek> and want to update regularly (this is for wife)
<derek> so cron job updates coupons nightly
<jbailey> Ah.
<derek> btw: i cant help it if wget is buggy :)
<derek> i.e. cvs seems to work but not current debian package :)
<derek> that was half the fight
<derek> the other half was my stupidity about what data was in the cookie
<derek> now that those are solved i think its just lack of understanding on how to control wget to do what i want :)
<derek> hmmm
<derek>  While doing that,
<derek>        Wget respects the Robot Exclusion Standard (/robots.txt).
<derek> i wonder if this is the problem
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