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<dcmwai> knock knock who is here...
<dcmwai> I want to learn to install gune
<ra3vat> dcmwai: hello
<ra3vat> i have 10 minutes before leave
<ra3vat> should be enough :)
<dcmwai> ok guide me through .. Thank You...
<dcmwai> I 've download everything...
<ra3vat> get cvs version of the code
<dcmwai> and run install of all of them... Just don't really how them start
<dcmwai> I'm using the tar :)
<ra3vat> find forms/samples
<ra3vat> and try to run gnue-forms intro.gfd
<dcmwai> where? /usr/local/gnue?
<ra3vat> it depends on how did you install it
<dcmwai> hum... why I didn't have that :(
<ra3vat> what platform are you on?
<dcmwai> Linux... I'm running appserv.gfd is that ok?
<ra3vat> no
<dcmwai> gnue-forms appserv.gfd
<dcmwai> oop
<ra3vat> not for the first try
<dcmwai> let me get the sample.gfd...
<ra3vat> is there /usr/local/gnue?  scripts gnue-* like /usr/local/bin/gnue-forms?
<ra3vat> if not then how did you install things?
<dcmwai> I've the gnue- stuff  but no intro.gfd
<ra3vat> there should be helloworld.gfd simple
<dcmwai> no..
<dcmwai> where is the from sample files from?
<ra3vat> forms/samples/intro forms/samples
<ra3vat> forms/samples/simple
<ra3vat> found?
<dcmwai> wait
<dcmwai> No
<ra3vat> there is separate samples package
<dcmwai> oh where to get it please :)
<dcmwai> got it
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<dcmwai> ra3vat: I've got that simple
<ra3vat> got it running?
<dcmwai> looking for intro.gfd
<dcmwai> damn ..  why no intro.gfd.
<ra3vat> give "ls" from that samples package
<dcmwai> I've but it is not running wait..
<dcmwai> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-forms", line 43, in ?
<dcmwai> DB000:     GFClient().run()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFClient.py", line 149, in
<dcmwai> run
<dcmwai> DB000:     instance.addFormFromFile(formfile)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 229, in addFormFromFile???
<dcmwai> there are more oop... I should paste it in flood :(
<ra3vat> it is not clear what form did you run
<dcmwai> hum... something must be wrong somewhere.
<dcmwai> the appserv.gdf aslo have problem
<dcmwai> please install xmlprc?
<ra3vat> you should get very simple form running first
<dcmwai> the very simple from helloworld2.gdf also have problem
<ra3vat> without <datasource ... inside
<ra3vat> let's find which
<dcmwai> ?
<ra3vat> let's find which problem you face with helloworld2.gdf
<dcmwai> where to start
<dcmwai> run the helloword2.gdf?
<ra3vat> run gnue-forms helloworld2.gfd
<ra3vat> and paste errors if any
<dcmwai> I think #flood is better
<ra3vat> gnue-forms --gebug-level=20 helloworld2.gfd
<ra3vat> paste few last lines
<ra3vat> as you did before
<dcmwai> ra3vat: Where flood or here?
<dcmwai> ine 282, in startElementNS
<dcmwai> DB000:     raise MarkupError, tmsg
<dcmwai> DB000: gnue.common.definitions.GParser.MarkupError: Error processing <form> tag
<dcmwai> [I do not recognize the "height" attribute
<ra3vat> oh, wait
Action: dcmwai dcmwai is new to linux and cvs with linux without gui will kill him easily :)
<dcmwai> DB001: [GConnections:71] Conn File: "/usr/local/gnue/etc/connections.conf"
<dcmwai> DB001: [GFClient:86] Unable to load UI driver wx
<dcmwai> DB001: [GFClient:87] No module named wxPython
<dcmwai> is that an issue?
<ra3vat> yes
<dcmwai> installing (sorry)
<ra3vat> does X environment available for you?
<dcmwai> ah.. apt don't have it..
<dcmwai> yes..
<ra3vat> wxPython is for gui only
<ra3vat> and run 
<ra3vat> gnue-forms --version
<dcmwai> 0.50
<ra3vat> and tell here the answer
<ra3vat> ok
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<ra3vat> you could grab 2 forms from http://ics.elcom.ru/~ds/forms/
<dcmwai> what is that for?
<ra3vat> simplest forms i found
<ra3vat> to test installation
<dcmwai> hum.... I think wxpython is an issue..
<ra3vat> got it installed?
<dcmwai> Not ... can't find RPM, I' think I've to get it source :(
<ra3vat> what is your distro?
<dcmwai> Rh9 :)
<ra3vat> should be in distro and what's the problem to find rpm for RH?
<dcmwai> oh I find but it is not in it...
<dcmwai> what is the command to run wxpython? fot test or anythings
<ra3vat> whare are you getting wxpython rpm from?
<ra3vat> there is the whole demo application, could be in separate package
<ra3vat> but you can install wxpython rpm and try to run gnue-forms again
<dcmwai> ok will try
<dcmwai> hum... 8 MB Big and huge..
<dcmwai> ra3vat: Where are you going later?
<ra3vat> ?
<dcmwai> you say you are going?
<ra3vat> hope will appear as dimas from the work
<dcmwai> hehe
<dcmwai> anyone here know about the stauts of gune-sb?
<dcmwai> ra3vat: BTW... isn't that wxpython have to be same version of python?
<ra3vat> dcmwai: try to install >= 2.4 version of wxpython
<dcmwai> already but still problem :(
<ra3vat> dcmwai: there were commits to gnue-sb last week to let one run what's in there easily
<dcmwai> ok... then you have to teache me just how to set CVS Para :) Export CVSROOT=XXX
<dcmwai> I only have read them once and I'm not sure how.
<ra3vat> i installed myself and run with postgres, contacts should work fine
<ra3vat> dcmwai: what is the problem you still having?
<dcmwai> I'm not sure now... i think it is still the same peoblem ... I can't scrool up for log :(
<ra3vat> does not Shift+PageUp work for scrool?
<dcmwai> No it lock it up :(
<ra3vat> find log to file option
<ra3vat> --debug-file
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:201] Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11)
<ra3vat> gnue-forms --help
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:201] [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)]
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:202] Run Options: [('--debug-level', '20')]
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:203] Run Arguments: ['helloworld2.gfd']
<dcmwai> DB001: [GConfig:71] Reading configuration info from gnue.conf section forms
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:248] Unable to load locale information falling back to default
<dcmwai> English language translations.
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:271] Connection Definition: "/usr/local/gnue/etc/connections.conf"
<dcmwai> DB001: [GConnections:71] Conn File: "/usr/local/gnue/etc/connections.conf"
<dcmwai> DB001: [GFClient:86] Unable to load UI driver wx
<dcmwai> DB001: [GFClient:87] No module named wxPython
<dcmwai> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-forms", line 43, in ?
<dcmwai> DB000:     GFClient().run()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFClient.py", line 149, in
<dcmwai> run
<dcmwai> DB000:     instance.addFormFromFile(formfile)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 229, in addFormFromFile
<dcmwai> DB000:     self.addFormFromFilehandle(fileHandle)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 249, in addFormFromFilehandle
<dcmwai> DB000:     form = loadFile (fileHandle, self, initialize=0)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFParser.py", line 66, in loadFile
<dcmwai> DB000:     initialize, attributes={"_instance": instance,
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/definitions/GParser.py", line 107, in loadXMLObject
<dcmwai> DB000:     parser.parse(stream)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 109, in parse
<dcmwai> DB000:     xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/xmlreader.py", line 123, in parse
<dcmwai> DB000:     self.feed(buffer)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 203, in feed
<dcmwai> DB000:     self._parser.Parse(data, isFinal)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 300, in start_element_ns
<dcmwai> DB000:     AttributesNSImpl(newattrs, {}))
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/definitions/GParser.py", line 282, in startElementNS
<dcmwai> DB000:     raise MarkupError, tmsg
<dcmwai> DB000: gnue.common.definitions.GParser.MarkupError: Error processing <form> tag
<dcmwai> [I do not recognize the "height" attribute
<dcmwai> :)
<dcmwai> again is wxpython... :(
<ra3vat> if you installed wxPython
<dcmwai> Yes...
<ra3vat> it should be in 
<dcmwai> may be I've to rebuild it from source..
<dcmwai> RH9 is damn when running new program :(
<ra3vat> /usr/lib/python22/site-packages/wxPython
<dcmwai> then damn things is that I may have installed the wron version on wx :(
<ra3vat> version of python may differ
<dcmwai> Yes.. I'm using 2.2 :( and I've installed the 2.3 :(
<ra3vat> you cat run python
<ra3vat> ant then type from python's prompt:
<ra3vat> import wxPython.wx
<dcmwai> har?
<ra3vat> it should went without error
<dcmwai> no module name... (well ignore it first )
<ra3vat> does rh still shipped with python 1.5.2?
<dcmwai> No.. is 2.2
<dcmwai> 2.2.2
<ra3vat> could you find where wxpython had installed?
<dcmwai> not now.. I'm dl the 2.2 version.
<ra3vat> [ds@ics ds]$ rpm -qa|grep wx
<ra3vat> wxPythonGTK-2.3.3.1-alt1
<dcmwai> File "<stdin>", line 1
<dcmwai>     mport wxPython.wx
<dcmwai>                  ^
<dcmwai> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
<dcmwai> >>> import wxPython.wx
<dcmwai> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
<dcmwai>   serial 441 error_code 10 request_code 146 minor_code 3
<dcmwai> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
<dcmwai>   serial 445 error_code 10 request_code 146 minor_code 3
<dcmwai> is this normal?
<ra3vat> sometimes Gdk-ERROR appeared
<ra3vat> try to run gnue-forms
<ra3vat> now it at least sees wxPython module
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:201] Python 2.2.2 (#1, Feb 24 2003, 19:13:11)
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:201] [GCC 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-4)]
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:202] Run Options: [('--debug-level', '20')]
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:203] Run Arguments: ['helloworld2.gfd']
<dcmwai> DB001: [GConfig:71] Reading configuration info from gnue.conf section forms
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:248] Unable to load locale information falling back to default
<dcmwai> English language translations.
<dcmwai> DB001: [GBaseApp:271] Connection Definition: "/usr/local/gnue/etc/connections.conf"
<dcmwai> DB001: [GConnections:71] Conn File: "/usr/local/gnue/etc/connections.conf"
<dcmwai> DB007: [GFwxApp:10] WxApp initializing
<dcmwai> DB007: [GFwxApp:18] WxApp initializing
<dcmwai> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-forms", line 43, in ?
<dcmwai> DB000:     GFClient().run()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFClient.py", line 149, in
<dcmwai> run
<dcmwai> DB000:     instance.addFormFromFile(formfile)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 229, in addFormFromFile
<dcmwai> DB000:     self.addFormFromFilehandle(fileHandle)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 249, in addFormFromFilehandle
<dcmwai> DB000:     form = loadFile (fileHandle, self, initialize=0)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFParser.py", line 66, in loadFile
<dcmwai> DB000:     initialize, attributes={"_instance": instance,
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/definitions/GParser.py", line 107, in loadXMLObject
<dcmwai> DB000:     parser.parse(stream)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 109, in parse
<dcmwai> DB000:     xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/xmlreader.py", line 123, in parse
<dcmwai> DB000:     self.feed(buffer)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 203, in feed
<dcmwai> DB000:     self._parser.Parse(data, isFinal)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 300, in start_element_ns
<dcmwai> DB000:     AttributesNSImpl(newattrs, {}))
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/common/definitions/GParser.py", line 282, in startElementNS
<dcmwai> DB000:     raise MarkupError, tmsg
<dcmwai> DB000: gnue.common.definitions.GParser.MarkupError: Error processing <form> tag
<dcmwai> [I do not recognize the "height" attribute
<dcmwai> hum...
<ra3vat> try those forms i gave you the link to
<dcmwai> ok
<dcmwai> Oh I saw the pic once then error comeout ...
<ra3vat> last lines of error?
<dcmwai> ra3vat: Better Join #flood, else the log will kill me
<dcmwai> only last line
<dcmwai> ok
<dcmwai> DB000: wxPython.wxc.wxPyAssertionError: C++ assertion "wxAssertFailure" failed in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/wxPythonSrc-2.4.0.7/src/unix/fontutil.cpp(867): this encoding should be available!
<ra3vat> what about last few lines?
<dcmwai> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-forms", line 43, in ?
<dcmwai> DB000:     GFClient().run()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFClient.py", line 151, in
<dcmwai> run
<dcmwai> DB000:     instance.activate()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 305, in activate
<dcmwai> DB000:     self._uiinstance.initialize()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py",
<dcmwai> line 74, in initialize
<dcmwai> DB000:     self.splash = UIWXSplashScreen()
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/UIWXSplashScreen.py", line 51, in __init__
<dcmwai> DB000:     twidth,theight = self.GetTextExtent(text)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/wxPython/windows.py", line 275,
<dcmwai> in GetTextExtent
<dcmwai> DB000:     val = apply(windowsc.wxWindow_GetTextExtent,(self,) + _args, _kwargs)DB000: wxPython.wxc.wxPyAssertionError: C++ assertion "wxAssertFailure" failed in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/wxPythonSrc-2.4.0.7/src/unix/fontutil.cpp(867): this encoding should be available!
<ra3vat>   --no-splash, -s       Disables the splash screen
<ra3vat> try to add this option to command line
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/common.py", line 44, in initFont
<dcmwai> DB000:     wxNORMAL,FALSE,'',encodings[gConfig('textEncoding')]))
<dcmwai> DB000: KeyError: utf-8
<dcmwai> oh yes
<ra3vat> and look into /usr/local/gnue/etc/gnue.conf for textEncoding and other encoding oprions do you really need utf-8 now?
<dcmwai> Not really what should I set to/
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/MenuBar.py", line 83, in addAction
<dcmwai> DB000:     parent.AppendItem(item)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/wxPython/windows.py", line 815,
<dcmwai> in AppendItem
<dcmwai> DB000:     val = apply(windowsc.wxMenu_AppendItem,(self,) + _args, _kwargs)
<dcmwai> DB000: wxPython.wxc.wxPyAssertionError: C++ assertion "wxAssertFailure" failed in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/wxPythonSrc-2.4.0.7/src/gtk/menu.cpp(1460): unknown keyboard accel
<dcmwai> someone please kill me :)
<ra3vat> i thought about #textEncoding = iso8859-1 by default
<dcmwai> is done
<ra3vat> dcmwai: ready to dive into the source code?
<dcmwai> go ahead :)
<dcmwai> ra3vat: On you marks :)
<ra3vat> find gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/MenuBar.py
<dcmwai> where is it?
<dcmwai> oh I see :)
<ra3vat> and check that following lines are commented
<ra3vat> #    if hotkey:
<ra3vat> #      label += '\t%s' % hotkey
<ra3vat> search in /usr/lib/python22/site-packages/gnue
<dcmwai> that all?
<ra3vat> are they commented?
<dcmwai> no I've just comment them
<ra3vat> let's look will that help
<dcmwai> Now it is running... Damn... how am I going to ask my user to do all these stuff :(
<ra3vat> dcmwai: it was fixed after 0.5 was released
<dcmwai> still I face some fonts problem...
<ra3vat> only appeared on redhat (may be mandrake)
<ra3vat> dcmwai: now your friends would be db drivers, /usr/local/gnue/etc/connections.conf, common/README.databases
<dcmwai> db drive?
<ra3vat> python DB drivers
<ra3vat> what db will you run, mysql?
<dcmwai> I've mysql postgresql running (both :)
<ra3vat> i use postgresql mostly
<dcmwai> DB000:     val = apply(windowsc.wxWindow_GetTextExtent,(self,) + _args, _kwargs)DB000: wxPython.wxc.wxPyAssertionError: C++ assertion "wxAssertFailure" failed in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/wxPythonSrc-2.4.0.7/src/unix/fontutil.cpp(867): this encoding should be available!
<dcmwai> Is this right?
<ra3vat> find common/README.databases 
<dcmwai> no.. only connection.txt
<ra3vat> and read about psycopg, popy
<ra3vat> should be in common tgz
<dcmwai> where is that, did I need to find for it again...
<ra3vat> have you downloaded separate packages for Forms Common ...?
<ra3vat> there shoud be README inside
<dcmwai> Froms common? No Only Form packages
<dcmwai> Humm I think there should always be a nught build version :)
<ra3vat> then how you installed common?
<dcmwai> setup.py install :)
<ra3vat> can you run "ls" from there again for me and paste here?
<dcmwai> where you want me to run the ls from ?
<ra3vat> the same place you was running  setup.py install
<ra3vat> i'm just wondering what files you've downloaded and installed from
<ra3vat> and what's in there
<dcmwai> ok
<dcmwai> [root@Amitabhasrv GNUe-Forms-0.5.0]# ls
<dcmwai> AUTHORS    COPYING  images         NEWS              samples       setup.py
<dcmwai> BUGS       dialogs  INSTALL        PKG-INFO          scripts       src
<dcmwai> build      doc      INSTALL.win32  README            setup.cfg.in  TODO
<dcmwai> ChangeLog  FAQ      man            README.databases  setupext      utils
<ra3vat>  README.databases
<dcmwai> ah....
<ra3vat> the same for GNUE-Common
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<ra3vat> GNUe-Forms-0.5.0/samples  
<dcmwai> ooh
<dcmwai> it is all there and...
<ra3vat> GNUe-Forms-0.5.0/doc has documentation in OpenOffice format
<ra3vat> the same for Common
<ra3vat> still need help with gnue-sb cvs?
<dcmwai> damn I hate the fonts problem :(
<dcmwai> yes if I can checkout the latest release... from xterm
<ra3vat> http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=gnue-sb
<ra3vat> go there
<ra3vat> nonymous CVS Access
<ra3vat> This project's CVS repository can be checked out through anonymous (pserver) CVS with the following instruction set. The module you wish to check out must be specified as the modulename. When prompted for a password for anoncvs, simply press the Enter key.
<ra3vat> Software repository :
<ra3vat> cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/gnue-sb login
<ra3vat> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/gnue-sb co <modulename>
<dcmwai> did I need to define my CVSROOT?
<ra3vat> paste last l2 lines in term
<ra3vat> it is defined in command line
<ra3vat>  -d:pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/gnue-sb 
<ra3vat> paste first
<dcmwai> psycopg is going to be a big problem :(
<ra3vat> hit Enter at password prompt
<dcmwai> what is the modulename?
<ra3vat> then paste second 
<ra3vat> .
<ra3vat> will give you all
<dcmwai> ?
<dcmwai> .
<dcmwai> ok
<ra3vat> <dcmwai> psycopg is going to be a big problem :(
<ra3vat> why?
<dcmwai> Ok I've got gnue-sb...
<dcmwai> how about gune with the same technique?
<dcmwai> let try :)
<dcmwai> because I've to make it from the source and that will be a big problem for us :(
<ra3vat> dcmwai: look in postgresql package or additional packages for postgres
<dcmwai> and
<ra3vat> more drivers should be in distro
<ra3vat> some drivers should be in distro
<dcmwai> hum I'll search for it
<dcmwai> postgresql-python-7.3.2-3
<dcmwai> is in plave
<dcmwai> s/plave/plave
<dcmwai> s/plave/plac
<dcmwai> s/plave/place
<dcmwai> sorry ra3vat I am wounder where is all the gnue-* files located?
<dcmwai> are they script files or binart files...
<ra3vat> there are no binary files and gnue now
<ra3vat> scripts are in /usr/local/bin
<dcmwai> oh so are script... hum that is good and the best
<ra3vat> configs and in /usr/local/gnue
<ra3vat> all the others in python/site-packages/gnue
<dcmwai> Now I know I've postgresql-python-7.3.2-3 running did I still need psycopg?
<ra3vat>  README.databases
<ra3vat> may be you have one driver already
<dcmwai> ra3vat: be frank... the readme.database have nothing :)
<ra3vat> in GNUe-Common
<dcmwai> oh got it
<ra3vat>  * PostgreSQL 6.x-7.x [via PyGreSQL, PyPgSQL, Psycopg, and PoPy]
<dcmwai> which one is the one I'm using ... pypgsql?
<ra3vat> pygresql or pypgsql drivers could be inside postgresql-python
<dcmwai> let see
<ra3vat> you can look what files in there via 
<ra3vat> rpm -ql postgresql-python
<dcmwai> oop
<dcmwai> "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/_pgmodule.so
<dcmwai> /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/pg.py
<dcmwai> /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/pgdb.py
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2/README
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2/tutorial
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2/tutorial/advanced.py
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2/tutorial/basics.py
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2/tutorial/func.py
<dcmwai> /usr/share/doc/postgresql-python-7.3.2/tutorial/syscat.py
<dcmwai> any hints?
<ra3vat> i'm not sure which one is this
<dcmwai> installation cvs version...
<dcmwai> I don't think anyone fit...
<dcmwai> PyGreSQL, version 3.3
<ra3vat> then use it
<dcmwai> at last...
<dcmwai> it run the first.gdf :)
<dcmwai> then now what to run?
<ra3vat> gnue-sb
<ra3vat> create db
<dcmwai> how?
<dcmwai> sorry..
<dcmwai> I meant...  How to get the sql files
<ra3vat> load schema.sql (for postgres would be easy for me to help)
<ra3vat> look inside gnue-sb
<dcmwai> get the files
<dcmwai> just import it?
<ra3vat> gnue-sb/schema/PgSQL
<ra3vat> createdb gnue-sb
<dcmwai> done
<ra3vat> psql gnue-sb < schema.sql
<dcmwai> ah...
<dcmwai> shit :(
<ra3vat> what?
<ra3vat> :)
<dcmwai> doing something funny will be back ... damn
Action: ra3vat runs to the office
<ra3vat> or i will fire myself
<dcmwai> ra3vat: ok I'm donw... but you are off :)
<ra3vat> dcmwai: have you installed navigator?
<dcmwai> yep
<dcmwai> actually why there a navigator, from and all stuff? I'm not too sure about all that.
<ra3vat> gnue-navigator contacts.gpd
<ra3vat> is what you should run
<dcmwai> ok
<ra3vat> the try to open lu_* forms and add new entries there
<dcmwai> Oh yes
<dcmwai> Nothing was onthe right side?
<ra3vat> after that you can add new entries from main contacts form
<dcmwai> DB000:     self._runForm(formfile, parameters)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/navigator/UIwxpython.py", line 266, in _runForm
<dcmwai> DB000:     instance.activate()
<ra3vat> dcmwai: it is assumed you added [gnue-sb] entry in connections.conf file
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 288, in activate
<dcmwai> DB000:     self.manager.handleStartupError(mesg)
<dcmwai> DB000: AttributeError: Instance instance has no attribute 'handleStartupError'
<dcmwai> entry... hum no :)
<dcmwai> Wah.. this is killing me :0
<dcmwai> :( :) :~
<ra3vat> dcmwai: we have a good chance to write gnue-sb INSTALL :)
<dcmwai> python... you worte it... I'm new :)
<dcmwai> what should the gnue-sb entry like this?
<dcmwai> [gnue-sb]
<dcmwai> comment = GNUe-Small Business
<dcmwai> aliases = dcl test
<dcmwai> provider = PyGreSQL
<dcmwai> host = localhost
<dcmwai> dbname = gnue-sb
<dcmwai> ?
<dcmwai> is there something wrong?
<ra3vat> change [gnue-sb] to [gnue_sb] it is how it referenced inside forms
<dcmwai> oh
<dcmwai> the aliases ok?
<ra3vat> try now
<dcmwai> login name password
<dcmwai> admin password?
<ra3vat> it is postgresql thing
<ra3vat> createuser <name> will create it
<dcmwai> oh... So that is postgresql password :)
<dcmwai> yes got it
<ra3vat> got form running?
<dcmwai> YEP
<ra3vat> fill id and text field and hit F6
<dcmwai> ra3vat: something to ask ... you know about the Bugzilla From?
<dcmwai> on which form?
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<ra3vat> which one you have running?
<dcmwai> there are only one right..
<dcmwai> Contact Manager.
<dcmwai> f6 is for what save
<dcmwai> save... well
<ra3vat> gnue-sb/contacts/forms
<ra3vat> [ds@ics forms]$ ls
<ra3vat> contact_manager.gfd  CVS  lu_address_type.gfd  lu_email_type.gfd  lu_phone_type.gfd
<ra3vat> [ds@ics forms]$
<dcmwai> yes
<ra3vat> you can run lu_* separately via gnue-forms lu_address_type.gfd too fill initial data 
<ra3vat> or run then all from navigator
<dcmwai> I see
<dcmwai> How come after I exit the from I've to restart nagivator to have the form running agian
<ra3vat> no
<dcmwai> ?
<ra3vat> you just run it again from navigator
<dcmwai> can't... (don't know why...)
<dcmwai> double click on the left menu right/
<ra3vat> yes
<ra3vat> is it started for the first try?
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py",
<dcmwai> line 60, in __init__
<dcmwai> DB000:     commonToolkit.GFUserInterface.__init__(self,eventController,disableSplash)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_commonGuiToolkit/UIdriver.py", line 53, in __init__
<dcmwai> DB000:     GFUserInterfaceBase.__init__(self,eventController)
<dcmwai> DB000:   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_base/UIdriver.py", line 149, in __init__
<dcmwai> DB000:     self._supportedWidgets[widget.configuration['provides']]=widget
<dcmwai> DB000: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'configuration'
<dcmwai> Yes..
<dcmwai> only the first try...
<ra3vat> then you gnue-forms and work with each form separately
<ra3vat> we resolve that navigator issue later
<dcmwai> yes..
<dcmwai> ok.. not I 've got it work and damn...
<dcmwai> not-->now
<dcmwai> long long time... and Very Hard...
<dcmwai> gune-sb need to be running on some stable release before gune-se release...
<dcmwai> else gnue will need to provide some patch during all the time ;)
<ra3vat> if look back most of the problem was to get required packages installed
<dcmwai> YES
<ra3vat> cu later
<dcmwai> oh you are going off?
<dcmwai> ra3vat: Thank For your help... (although I'm still very blur what is going on)
<dcmwai> will try to run on josh machine :)
<dcmwai> anybody... here? again :)
Action: Vee2d2 heads to the farm
<Vee2d2> heh, no he dont
<dcmwai> anyone can help me to install on the system with cvs? typ
<dcmwai> I've try to install with setup-cvs.py But is don't work
<Vee2d2> on what operating system?
<Vee2d2> ok, looks like you are using linux in some form, from your conversation with ra3vat.. I was thinking I recalled you saying you were using windows in a prior conversation, which would mean you need to run the setup-cvs-win.py file instead...
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<dcmwai> Vee2d2: sorry was away for dinner :) I'm on Linux again :(
<dcmwai> oop :( --> :)
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<Vee2d2> dcmwai: you need to elaborate on what "But it don't work" means. =) You do relize that the CVS install names the tools differently, right? such as the forms client is gfcvs, designer is gfdes and so on? 
<Vee2d2> I gotta run.. good luck with it
<dcmwai> Thank
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<dimas> here
<dimas> finally :)
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<dimas> hello jamest
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<dimas> jamest: unknown keyboard accel issue still exist in 0.5 release files
<dimas> don't recall who was fixed it btami or siesel or jcater
<dimas> should we fix 0.5 release or hope 0.5.1 will be soon?
<jamest> 0.5.1 should be soon
<jamest> it's been 2 months since the last release
<jamest> i think its a matter of jbailey and I working on the .debs
<jamest> and jcater telling us designer is release ready
<jamest> which I believe it's close
<dimas> ok
<dimas> we have unofficial rpm's somewhere
<dimas> if i want to have official rpm's for RH and few other rpm-based distros
<dimas> how could we deal with the author of original packages spec-files and so on
<dimas> or packaging contribution could be accepted only from "paper-worked" participants?
<jamest> hmmmm
<jamest> i don't know where rpm construction would fall in that
<jamest> the debian maintainer is covered with paperwork
<jamest> and I thought rpms were automagically generated by the setup.py we have now
<derek> jamest: they should be
<derek> i.e. if the rpms are not being created with setup.py they should be
<dimas> i'm very new with rpm-build and my main concern now is altlinux.com distro
<derek> that is how jade was making them long ago (i think i even made some that way)
<derek> as far as 'official'
<derek> i don't think someone has to be 'papered' to make official rpms
<derek> just to get their stuff in cvs they should be 'papered'
<dimas> so for now i'd like to make some derivation from rh rpms
<derek> so go ahead and make them :)
<derek> if you email info@gnue.org when done we will post them on the site 
<dimas> thanks :)
<derek> i.e give us a url to download them from we will snag them and put them up for download attribiting credit to you
Action: derek thinks thats what we did for current rpms form jarvi
<dimas> where is jarvi's rpms referenced?
<derek> we would prefer you fill out paperwork and put files to create such things in CVS so if you vanish we can continue managing them
<derek> but its not mandatory
<derek> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnue/news/news130.html
<dimas> luckily, being ra3vat, i have paperwork done :)
<derek> hmmm seems that we never added those to our site or our downloads page
<derek> pure oversight i suppose
<derek> dimas: i thought it was you, but wasnt sure :)
<dimas> or should it be
<dimas> luckily being ra3vat, i have paperwork done :)
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<kreiszner> Vee2d2: what is the lu_item_mfg_model_maint.gfd used for
<dimas> lu_ means lookup
<kreiszner> then is this a form for moving items from older versions of gnue?
<dimas> only mfg_model need to be clarified if ever
<dimas> no
<kreiszner> what is the actual purpose
<kreiszner> to input data or simply see the data
<dimas> both
<dimas> the form belong to item maintenance module
Action: dimas is just guessing from form's name
<kreiszner> so you wouldn't be modifying prices or information about the product with this form
<dimas> and helps to keep manufacturer model info and something
<kreiszner> i think i got the pic now thanks
<dimas> np
<dimas> kreiszner: have you installed gnue-sb?
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<lex> Halo
<lex> Is mdean home?
<lex> knock knock mdean
<derek> mdean: not home
<derek> email mdean@users.sourceforge.net
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<derek> jcater: why checkin gnue-pos to gnue?
<derek> instead of gnue-sb?
<jcater> gnue-pos is a standalone program
<jcater> that can use gnue-sb as a backend
<derek> hmmm
<derek> bummer
<jcater> bummer?
<derek> deviates greatly from what i hoped
<jcater> makes perfect sense to me
<derek> no time to really discuss
<derek> just means double maintenance
<jcater> ?
<derek> was really hoping to same 'modularity' for GNU Enterprise proper
<derek> in fact thats what we discussed
<derek> jcater: well if gnue-sb backend is an 'option'
<jcater> for the forseeable future
<jcater> it's the "only" option
<derek> that means you are having to maintain all the tables with in gnue-pos
<jcater> no
<jcater> there's a backends/ directory
<jcater> with a gnue-sb directory
<derek> which means having to change two trees or such
<jcater> which imports from gnue-sb
<derek> but regardless i dont think 'gnue' tree is proper place
<derek> would be better making gnue-pos project on savannah
<derek> imho
<derek> just like gnue-sb
<derek> or we need an
<derek> gnue/apps/
<derek> or something
<jcater> it's not in gnue/
<derek> i thought i saw gnue/gnue-pos
<jcater> no
Action: derek only glanced was bummed it wasnt under gnue-sb so quit reading
<derek> doing last email check before leaving for the week
<chillywilly> gnue is a pos isn't it? ;)
<chillywilly> haha
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<dcmwai> Who is still here :)
<ra3vat> here
<dcmwai> back
<dcmwai> ra3vat, I've got the cvs version of both gnue and gnue-sb install on josh machine but...
<dcmwai> it don't really run...
<ra3vat> how is that?
<dcmwai> I'm not sure...
<dcmwai> sorry I'm sure of something gnue-* script wasn't setup correctly
<ra3vat> if you did cvs install
<ra3vat> the names would be
<ra3vat> gfcvs instead gnue-forms
<ra3vat> gncvs instead of gnue-navigator
<ra3vat> and so on
<dcmwai> oh.. I see
<ra3vat> look for them in $HOME/bin
<dcmwai> ah.. you guy are smart :)
<dcmwai> no they are on /usr/local/bin :)
<dcmwai> I've something to say ... and this effect much of the development..
<dcmwai> you know the world is open now and most of the time single languages isn't enough for business...
<dcmwai> Don't you think that using Bi-languages in paper/report will be a great choice?
<ra3vat> Bi-languages?
<dcmwai> yep
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<dcmwai> like for my business, I'm dealing business with Taiwan and My country, we use English here but on Taiwan they use Chinese so makeing a report that have 2 type of lanugages in the same time may make all of them happy..
<dcmwai> Using 1st languages is primay (Based on our company) and 2nd is Secondary (dependent on company)
<dcmwai> Using 1st languages is primay (Based on our company) and 2nd is Secondary (dependent on target company)
<dcmwai> any comment?
<dcmwai> flame?
<ra3vat> why do you think it is not supported by gnue reports now?
<dcmwai> No i don't Just to let you know this idea
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<siesel> jcater, you there?
<jcater> lock, stock, and barrel
<siesel> :)
<siesel> I've two ideas to make designer a bit easier to use.
<siesel> what about adding an "ARROW" icon to toolbar of the LayoutEditor?
<jcater> for?
<siesel> at the moment I f.e. choose Label, then I will just add labels, but cannot switch back to the select only mode
<siesel> Possibly there is allready a way to go back to this select only mode, but I didn't found it.
<jcater> ah, I see
<siesel> The other thing is just a minor fix: could you make the dropdown box for choosing the block a bit bigger?
<siesel> Its a bit too small, especially for the names of blocks created by wizards
<jcater> ok
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<siesel> thanks.
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