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<mixi> hi
<mixi> you have a really ambitous project
<mixi> i just wanted to evaluate gnu enterprise by implementing a little warehouse application
<mixi> so my question is: where should i start best ?
<Sacha> mixi i guess check the gnue website and also the gnue-sb project
Action: Sacha hasnt used gnue-sb but i think they try to use gnue as base and  build on top a usable application
<Sacha> mixi: gnue-sb is at http://savannah.gnu.org/
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<mixi> do you know about ace + tao ? have you ever thought about using this software as application server ?
<Sacha> never heard of it. is it licenced under gnu?
<mixi> tao: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/TAO.html and ace: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html
<mixi> it's open source, i guess gpl
<Sacha> licenced under gpl sorry
<mixi> why is this an issue =
<mixi> this piece of software is my opinion the best foundation for future enterprise software with the demand for realtime communication
<Sacha> mixi: from what i read is freedom (gpl form of it) very important for gnue.
<mixi> to say it in other words: if me is doin a software project like yours i would use wxwindows (as you do) and tao (you have the corba thing)
<Sacha> mixi I am not a gnue developer.
<mixi> oh sorry
<mixi> i thought the gnue developers would meet up here 
<Sacha> they do, they do, i am just not one of them ;) on the webpage you should find the "application server" developers of gnue.
<Sacha> mixi what is ciao ?
<mixi> that's italian for see you
<mixi> or good bye
<Sacha> mixi: ACE+TAO+CIAO
<Sacha> :)
<mixi> sorry, i don't understand
<Sacha> mixi: thats what i saw on the download page.
<Sacha> nevermind.
<mixi> oh i see, CIAO is new to me, i don't know
<mixi> CIAO: http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~nanbor/projects/CIAO/
<mixi> it's components to corba and a deployment method, as far as i see
<Sacha> i know reinhard is involved with gnue app server, but hes is not in atm
<mixi> has gnue progressed so far, so that one can do little businees applications with it ?
<Sacha> did you check the gnue-sb project? i think they are the ones who are closest to a real business app.
<mixi> they're under development, they haven't released yet. i guess i should wait some weeks and come again
<mixi> oh god give me time, i would like to participate in those projects, i'm keen on businees software engineering
<Sacha> or send an email to gnue and ask for a developer. do you know _how_ to do a warehouse app?
<mixi> sure, i've done many sorts of in my life
<mixi> and know a lot of existing software handling with this thing
<Sacha> sounds good.
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<chillywilly> that's c++ right? ;)
<chillywilly> ace and tao
<chillywilly> I've actually read some of their design patterns papers
<mixi> yes it is
<chillywilly> halfy sync/half async pattern or something like this
<chillywilly> that's them right? ;)]\
<mixi> yes, pretty tuff stuff, but great
<chillywilly> also a bit complicated ;)
<mixi> in the beginnig, but then it's ingenious
<chillywilly> I can't say that I understood everything I read ;)
<chillywilly> I need lunch
<mixi> i guess, nobody understands it at first
<chillywilly> yep food id good
<chillywilly> is*
<mixi> sure
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<chillywilly> yo
<ajmitch> hi
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<btami> hi
<siesel> hi btami
<btami> hello siesel
<jcater> hi btami, siesel, et al
<btami> hi jcater
<siesel> hi jason
<btami> jcater: i'v just saved a new form generated with simple wizard, and it contains
<btami> Char:height="1.0"
<btami> ?
<jcater> bugger
<jcater> more bugs
<btami> i'v never seen this before :(
<siesel> btami: that seems to be caused by the "height -> Char__heigth" conv.
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<btami> night
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<ajmitch> anyone home?
<SachaS> ajmitch hi
<ajmitch> hey SachaS
<ra3vat> hi ajmitch
<ra3vat> hi SachaS
<SachaS> hi ra3vat
<chillywilly> no one is home
<chillywilly> plz come back later
<ajmitch> ok
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