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Heya andrew MCArkan (~xordoquy@217.167.178.166) joined #gnuenterprise. hi where should connections.conf file be in debian sid ? /etc/gnue strange, there's nothing there (the directory doesn't even exists) You're using the packages in testing? jbailey (~jbailey@s100.ifi.uio.no) left irc: "Client exiting" yup, and something seems to be borcken there dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.56.60) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@s100.ifi.uio.no) joined #gnuenterprise. steveb_ (~steveb@202-0-63-225.adsl.paradise.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. steveb (~steveb@202-0-63-225.adsl.paradise.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-30.wasp.net.au) left irc: Excess Flood SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-30.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. R45 (~rastabeen@cuscon2357.tstt.net.tt) joined #gnuenterprise. [06:49] Last message repeated 1 time(s). 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SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-30.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-169.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@s100.ifi.uio.no) left irc: "Client exiting" Nick change: SachaS -> Sacha_away Action: Vee2d2 hugs jcater mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: "A Bientot" mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) paq (~paq@202.155.9.188) joined #gnuenterprise. paq_ (~paq@202.155.9.188) left irc: Connection timed out any reasons we can't be thinking release? on-startup trigger doesnt fire first? :) touching the trigger drop down on the code editor in designer is still dangerous sigh, i know about the startup trigger thin g before I changed stuff I spoke w/ jcater about it he'd mentioned having some code in designer(?) that could be copied to solve this i should start a list of release bugs I guess i've got some work I think I want to do in gnue but not until after a release that trigger drop down thing is pretty bad, the on-startup issue is up to you guys if it's release critical or not.. I'm not sure if I found a different way to do what I needed or not, been busy with other things so I havent been able to work on that for lately. i hear you there lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.115) joined #gnuenterprise. but i really don't think the startup thing is a rough fix which means of course it'll be a nitemare R46 (~rastabeen@cuscon352.tstt.net.tt) joined #gnuenterprise. 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I look forward to playing with that when I finish this other thing.. I've been meaning to do that for a while then sat down to do some stuff in GNUe-POS and decided the time was right :) hehe hey hey dudes bah, gotta rboot a new kernel peace chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" ;) hmmm that was almost a Quentin Tarrintino(sp?) film dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) left irc: "Вышел из XChat" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Vee2d2: with that On-Startup bug I'm thinking we just leave that as a known bug release then fix properly I know how I want to fix it and it should work w/o problem but it will touch a bit of code well, not really touch a lot of code but touches on startup logic Action: dcmwai is away: sleeping jcater: works for me dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.56.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: icltlfatppl is back (gone 29:58:23) alandd (~alandd@h-64-105-64-37.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: are you listening? heh you don't know hime very well do you ;)? hime? who's hime? or are you talking to someone else? oops, I mean *him* him as in dneighbo ah, busy guy, I know. that's not what I meant ;) he's usually too busy talking to actually read what you are typing ;) or some such thing I don't make any sense today OK but that is ok sure cause I still have the ice weasels derek irc's from the logs... ;) and lots of trout Vee2d2: heheh, yea carrying on a conversation with him can be a bit like pulling teeth I have some good news for him and thought I might beat the email I already sent by catching him here. hmmm, you might he might respond like 4 hours later ;) I guess he can just read about it in the logs or when he gets around to reading his gnu.org email. hey since I have an ear or two here... time to do some real work alandd: so what's the good news? or is it personal.. Action: chillywilly looks at havoc and slinks away tell me about gnue training materials or methods. Is anything already available/created? nah we got zilch we have sorta outdated developers guides not outdated there not really outdated just incomplete the docs are pretty good, imo or sparse may be a better word yea Vee2d2: it's not personal, really, but I don't want to take the announcement of it away from Derek. I am helping him establish something and have done my part. He can direct who gets told. if anything, they're just incomplete OK, I will be starting to learn about it and playing with it so, thought I'd ask. ok, incomplete -- you win some say the source is the only real complete documentation anyway. And the gnue source is all right there! haha and pretty easy to read at that Action: chillywilly looks at jcater's code and runs away screaming ;) hey that's not fair haha Action: Vee2d2 looks at chillywilly's code.. er uhmm.. ;) roflmao well, I must get back to work. dneighbo will get to his email eventually, i'm sure. Thanks. good day, alandd alandd (~alandd@h-64-105-64-37.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) left irc: "Client exiting" you have to ask havoc if you can see my code ;) I'll pass unless you've bit-encoded pr0n in it thought so I have enough of my own code to deal with alrighty then hmmm, where's Vee2d2's code at? ;) check out gnue-sb and you can see :) I should be making some commits this weekend I imagine.. well I am really itching to do something with twisted provided I finish this other project before then it looks very fun hmm maybe time for a cup-a-joe I do gnue-sb every day in perl ;) yay if you were to intergrate mailing lists, irc, web message board, etc. all form of online communication...like a community what type of castegory would that kinda of thin fall under, Groupware? just curious eh, I suppose sf and savannah are almost like that except you have code too ;) just seems like it's a little looser though, not as integrated as it could be or that people may want I dunno I had an interesting conversation with this dude looking to inegrate all these communcation mediums not that anyone is listening ;) la la la chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) left irc: "boot yet another kernel" throat (~login@zux006-008-179.adsl.green.ch) left irc: "Client exiting" chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Client exiting" Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.otn-c1.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-194-96.netcologne.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection jbailey (~jbailey@193.156.250.2) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@65-73-213-229.bras01.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@193.156.250.2) left irc: "Client exiting" R45 (~rastabeen@cuscon601.tstt.net.tt) left irc: alandd (~alandd@64.105.64.37) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: any chance I caught you before I make my treck home? guess not. See you all later. alandd (~alandd@64.105.64.37) left irc: "Client exiting" Nick change: Sacha_away -> SachaS ToyMan (~stuq@65-73-213-229.bras01.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ToyMan (~stuq@65.73.213.229) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@65.73.213.229) left irc: Client Quit chillywilly (danielb@24.167.197.5) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jamest (~jamest@adsl-64-216-107-165.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Client exiting" alandd (~alandd@h-66-167-42-94.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: Are you in? ironic, I have to step out for a moment. be back. Action: alandd is away: I'm busy alandd (~alandd@h-66-167-42-94.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" pr0c (~pr0c@208.44.104.1) joined #gnuenterprise. paq (~paq@202.155.9.188) left irc: Connection timed out paq_ (~paq@202.155.9.188) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-169.wasp.net.au) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). alandd (~alandd@h-66-167-42-94.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo: im back. are you here LuftHans: is that you? Action: Vee2d2 eats a pink lady Action: alandd is away: Must tend to child :^) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "later" alandd: nope, it's not me :) SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-126.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: alandd is back (gone 00:10:02) LuftHans: so, you hang out here, do u? is there any other place to hang? I keep coming around looking for dneighbo. yyyeeee...well...no. well, PLUG has two channels offered by members so they are a good place to hang. so I take it you're in Phoenix, too.. yep. it's a dry heat! i just wish it was a dry warm instead. I'll be glad when ~october's here.. looking forward to fall.. and then spring.. and then fall.. ;) got that right. Current conditions at Fort Worth, Fort Worth Alliance Airport, TX, United States: It is 28 C (84 F), windspeed is 8.05 km/h, and visibility is 16.09 km. (Information current as of 2003.07.18 0253 UTC). humidity? 58% ok. I'll take the dry heat. Going to Illinois this coming week. not looking forward to the humidity. maybe it'll make me appreciate the dry heat. I'm going to have to go west sometime if nothing else to understand this 'dry heat' first hand.. ;) turn on your oven to 150. put your face down by the door. Open rapidly and feel the heat blast up. That is what it is like opening your front door on a 110+ day. but, the dry part is the moderator. at least when you sweat, in evaporates and cools. have to keep drinking water. alandd: two channels from PLUG? yea, one of the guys offered his sleuthlinux(?) channel for general PLUG/Linux use ah, the cop from .tx.us :) i guess, dont' remember his name now bah, dry heat isn't too bad LuftHans: check your dccchat requests... alandd: trying to figure out how to accept one :) pr0c (~pr0c@208.44.104.1) left irc: "Client exiting" LuftHans: just a quick question/comment to hash with you... SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-126.wasp.net.au) left irc: "Client exiting" Action: alandd is away: Kid care again. see now we need a #phoenixlug here alandd: i got your email it sounds great i dont think i have conflicts that weekend :) Action: dneighbo was worried about soccer games at first Action: dneighbo might be back in a little bit not sure, debating going to bed or not.. i should be around tomorrow though Action: alandd is back (gone 00:08:01) derek: I need to get gnue going or I'll be using PHP for the emr conversion :) AUGH! I missed dneighbo!!! Action: alandd but he responded, precious! *my* precious! :) oops. im here still Action: dneighbo wants to break whomever broke libspell in sid Stoke_ (~stoker@141.149.254.50) joined #gnuenterprise. bbl Stoke (~stoker@dpvc-141-149-254-50.buff.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) alandd (~alandd@h-66-167-42-94.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) alandd (~alandd@h-66-167-42-94.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. man, that was a pain! I got dumped and couldn't come back. ouch dneighbo: The date and place is set, then. u get to do the announcement and as much PR as you want. Let me know what I can do to help. I've got one friend who wants to drop everything to come and another coworker that has expressed interest. you can do all that :) Action: dneighbo is just kidding likely will get some announcement stuff going but probably will ask for some PR help the friend wants to help with whatever he can. a very linux newbie but very willing. i think i have about 20 - 25 people on the list current that are interested (that i send update mails too) back derek: I'll be talking to Beth this weekend, so PR help might be available I'll bet we get 15 there. the place has 20 computers so we'll have to plan ahead for what we want there. They will wipe the HDs and install whatever we want for our session. I'll post to the PLUG web site when you get out any content. i wish i had a GNU Enterprise Knoppix cd Vee2d2: you know if jamest or jcater mentioned a release soon? yes they did a cd like that would be cool! derek: that's something I need, so help me get gnue working and I'll have it on Knoppix :) GNU Enterprise works just fine its just doesnt like german speaking americans with long hair and beards ;) LuftHans: I don't have access to my email client right now or I would check myself. Who is the PLUGger getting the knoppix CD ready for the show? is he the same one making copies? can he help here? derek: I've got it running and it even has multiple windows btw: that scares the hell out of me i.e. if they do a lousy job bundling that plug is then giving GNU/Linux a bad name would much rather see stock knoppix cd's handed out with plug labels on them (for now) until we can FULLY test a PLUG Knoppix CD imho but thats for antoher channel like #phoenixlug alandd: Austin is doing the Knoppix CD OK derek: it'll be stock CD with PLUG images ( and welcome page if I can write it this weekend ), plus Austin's good, he's not likely to make a mistake #pfug :) Action: LuftHans just passed up an op to go to a movie, so y'all better be entertaining ;-) dneighbo: do you really want a GNUe/Knoppix CD? I'll explore that for you. what movie? well i think it would be nice i need some experienced folks to run a booth in San Francisco in August :) ${disney_ride_of_the_week_gone_movie} I was wondering if you're going up again this year Action: dneighbo thinks they gave us one eventhough i never asked i dont think i have the cash to go :( but would love to LuftHans: saw it. not bad really. would love to escape with the wife I'm definitely short on cash, but if you help me earn some in the next few weeks I might be able to make it ;-) any docs on getting started on a project once you have the beast installed and running? i'm chewing up my vacation time next week. it would be fun. talking linux world, right? Action: LuftHans has his connection setup with a cheesy db on the backend um sept 20th there will be a class on what to do when you have it up and running P:) Action: alandd is away: Tuck in kid duty... derek: well that's too late for the gig and too late for the booth :( well i can have an earlier session maybe on the 23rd at aztech in the booth derek: OK, but I'll be working on it this weekend as well Action: LuftHans looks at the GNUe forms document is this EMR stuff? by jove, this might actually be useful!!! ;-) maybe i can just help you Action: dneighbo isnt looking for money derek: yup, for emr. well actually some of that wouldnt hurt right now but i told kyle i would do pro bono if it helped the gospel of tux derek: I need to convert access muck to postgres, build an app around the data and possibly integrate it with sql-ledger Action: alandd is back (gone 00:03:42) dneighbo: sept 20th is a class? where? er august something sept 20th is day soccer starts Action: dneighbo has too much going on in this brain and it's late, i know. you meant to refer to the date we now have? derek: don't do aug class the same time as LWE, bitte :) LWE? Linux World Expo G/LWE around here ;-) bah, that's in two weeks Action: LuftHans is out. i think L(sic) WE is 1st week in august btw Linux (sic) World Expo is how FSF acknowledges it ;) 5th-7th yup, 4 - 7 class is on the . . . should I say it? you can as i dont have right by me 30th Saturday, August 30th at ElitePC August 30th --- Fri Jul 18 2003