LuftHans: still too late for you? that's when they had the room available. still too late for the current project, they need something ASAP ( isn't that always the case? ) I'll work through docs and figure stuff out on my own for now, but will be bugging derek and other #gnuenterp denizens :) Action: alandd ASAP. I ahve been hearing that all week. always the week before vacation. alandd: well, since you're leaving on vacation remind them that asap is at the earliest in two weeks ;-) well, it's just one week this time but, yea, they know, i got the emergency stuff done today but my main project is now suffering a 3 day deficit. alandd: well the week of vaca and this week, when you'll be preparing for time off not for new projects Action: LuftHans even switched to KDE to get GNUe working GNUe doesn't like GNOME? Action: alandd i use kde anyway not when GNOME in testing is borken such that you can't resize windows i figure gnue is a "debian based" project. How well does it do on Redhat Action: alandd getting ready to duck. gute nacht alan no, really. We have redhat servers at Adtron. they know the name. could I expect gnue to run on it? ah, I thought you meant go to bed :) alandd: I got gnue running from cvs because the debian packages are borken, the same should work on other GNU/Linux distros i hope to try it before the class. the database on the back end will be new to me too. fun! fun! I think that mysql is better setup using RH than postgresql derek will probably encourage the latter, though :) that will be my first learning curve. db stuff isn't too hard, even I can get them setup SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-126.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: LuftHans restarts gfdes to get it in english lots of errors :( i'm not really worried about it. just new stuff. sorry im distracted. still researching my trip. enjoy it Action: LuftHans is working on a demo GNUe XML form. Good thing there's a 'using a text editor' section since gfdes isn't working gfdes is a german translator? you are working on a german project? gnue form designer, the starting point for GNUe ok. Im getting in deep here in the maps of kansas city. I better go. Im excited about this class! alandd (~alandd@h-66-167-42-94.PHNDAZ91.covad.net) left irc: " good night!" alan run off to bed already he's off checking out KC is there an XML syntax checker that will indicate what's wrong without all this traceback crap? mysql is a piece of crap seriously mysql? this is a python problem mouns (mouns@62.212.97.112) joined #gnuenterprise. I need to know what the supposed syntax error was, not what fx() begat what fx() begat what fx()... what is wrong with designer last i heard it pretty close to having most bugs fixed plese note you need wxPython 2.4 er please need the error to be of help designer throws errors when trying to 'continue' when choosing a data source, it's borking on the sample xml form. I think I have it done w/o typos did you make the xml file from hand DB000: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'supportedDataObjects' Action: dneighbo isnt sure what exactly you have or havent done that's the last error from trying to continue after choosing a data source Action: dneighbo truthfully hasnt done GNU Enterprise stuff for nearly a month :( created form by hand per the forms docs since designer isn't working probably your form is toast Action: LuftHans is following the zipcodes example in the forms doc doing xml by hand is less than optimal (way easy to hose up) also if you copied something out of the docs likely they are inaccurate try as we might... development happens faster than documentation "DB000: KeyError: zipcode" is the open the gfd error, don't know what it means, the entries with zipcode seem to be correct per the forms doc well, I need a starting point :) do you have a database do you have a table does the table have zipcode field? wxPython 2.4.0.7 yup, yup, yup select * from zipcodes; zipcode | city | state can you /msg me the form Action: LuftHans just tried a dcc send of the form. save that as /vmlinuz and reboot to get it to take effect ;-) dcc is evil will try it no luck with the dcc please email it it's in the mail :) doesn't the PHP thingy have a validator? ? php thingy the PHP parser for gfd docs stay away from that its not usuable for anything remotely close to production why? is it borken? unless you want to contribute code to make it work :) web apps are shite anyhow ;) hmm, I need web-based for this app, that's more important than stand-along s/ong/one/ well, I can help with PHP :) is this the error you get DB000: File "/home/dneighbo/cvs/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFObjects/GFEntry.py", line 94, in initialize DB000: raise "Entry references non-existent field '%s'" % self.field DB000: Entry references non-existent field 'zipcode' ah gack form spec has changed radically nope g'evning stopped editing dumb files by hand when designer got better forgot about the namespacing hans run cvs/gnue/forms/samples/zipcode/zipcode.gfd does that work? if not your setup is messed ok, that one opens *and* only a few Gdk-CRITICAL errors gc == garbage collection? that is wx stuff the Gdk-CRITICAL errors cause GNOME sux ass lately :( GNOME? Action: LuftHans is running KDE because GNOME was borky, borky. hmm your first form has something goofy researching DB000: AttributeError: GFLabel instance has no attribute 'text' ok figured it out you still have original form you sent me? yup silly error Action: dneighbo is not a huge block fan change to be to be and to be save form then try to run oooh, it opens :) how do I 'run' it? found a 'run form' under tools, whcih gives a bunch of errors gnue.common.datasources.drivers.postgresql.psycopg does not contain dbdrivers ? gnue-forms formname.gfd or that seems bad gfcvs formname.gfd or what ever it takes to 'run' it im not sure what you mean by RUN it i thought you were running it otherwise how did you get errors? no db driver for psycopg I've been in gfdes and looking at layout editor apt-get -uf install python2.2-psycopg what Vee2d2 said Vee2d2: i just played with designer found 2 major bugs Action: Vee2d2 -uf's out of habbit.. dneighbo: dont touch the trigger drop down on the code editor.. :) a. in schema editor there is no 'scrollbar' so if you have say 100 tables no way to scroll down, if you use the keys it REALLY fubars things and if you make an entry hidden, then touch the property editor you'll probably discover segfault or something.. but I think he fixed that one b. if you use the wizard it saves height attributes as "1.0" intead of "1" which errors out when running the form hans your form here is working like a little champ after those three lines of editing dneighbo: is the schema nav a tree style widget? dneighbo: because that should be fixed in cvs, I think. user/passwd for GNUe is the user/passwd combo for the db? it is tree style widget i just updated cvs to no avail.... LuftHans: yeah dneighbo: I get a scroll bar.. weird i think my cvs is fooed i think i accidently got it as 'root' a few cycles back tsh tsh no kidding crap did they turn cvs into modules? i.e. how do you checkout the whole mess now yip ok, got the form to start and made an entry Action: dneighbo goes to look at site Action: dneighbo hates not being around you dont read the list, or what? :) ah i knew i saw something somewhere too many list (er projects) for i in blah blah blah blah blah; do cvs co $i; done #!/bin/sh export CVS_RSH=ssh; export CVSROOT='Vee2d2@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/gnue'; export WHAT='up -Pd'; #export WHAT='co'; cvs ${WHAT} gnue-common cvs ${WHAT} gnue-appserver cvs ${WHAT} gnue-forms cvs ${WHAT} gnue-reports cvs ${WHAT} gnue-designer cvs ${WHAT} gnue-navigator cvs ${WHAT} gnue-integrator cvs ${WHAT} gnue-pos but whatever.. ;) Action: Vee2d2 gets back to work.. grrr i pull hair out they changed directory of base cvs and with it they munged my frelling pserver file Action: dneighbo goes to dig around for ssh keys Action: dneighbo put this off for last 3 years out of laziness :) dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) joined #gnuenterprise. woohoo using ssh now after 3 years for GNU Enterprise :) about time bigerbrother joined #gnuenterprise. heh bigbrother (eggdrop@209.234.155.8) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Nick change: bigerbrother -> bigbrother ouchie didnt have wx2.4 guess gnue-forms-wx was holding back the upgrade :) IIRC there's like a "wowiee wow! wow!" difference between 5.0 designer and cvs I dont remember if that happened prior to the cvs restructuring or not though did you get gnue-forms-wx to install from the unofficial deb? s/5.0/0.5/ :) Action: Vee2d2 envisions designer 5.0.. "wowiee wow! wow!" some before to answer Vee2d2 hans our packages are screwed wait till next version cvs best option for now egads the fonts are horrible in deisgner now for some things Action: dneighbo wonders where it is picking those up form yeah one of my bugs fixed :) the scrollbar is there now second bug fixed YEAH jcater you are my hero two bugs fixed and you didnt even have to be here thats what i call AI Action: dneighbo runs off to bed SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-126.wasp.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jbailey (~jbailey@s100.ifi.uio.no) joined #gnuenterprise. morning jeff Heya Andrew jbailey:where do you get libwxgtk2.3-python for gnue-forms-wxgtk? Erm. Isn't it in unstable? I only show 2.2 and 2.4 available, I have stable, testing and unstable in my sources ( viva la /etc/apt/preferences :) does it have to =2.3, could it =>2.3? I don't know off hand. 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But all he does is smoke import cigarettes and curse at the viewer in french. Action: dcmwai is away: Clean up... dneighbo (~dneighbo@cpe-24-221-112-50.az.sprintbbd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) R45 (~rastabeen@cuscon3528.tstt.net.tt) left irc: No route to host lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.115) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) man i'm still crying haha lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.115) joined #gnuenterprise. There were 2 people on a boat: /hop and /quit. /hop got off, who's still on the boat? * nipple_frog has quit IRC rofl haha jamest, you guys are funny... I can't really think of anyone will do that... but if that is real... it is realy funny :) it's from bash.cx or bash.org irc quotes people have submitted and I do believe people would do some of these yea I think you get a smelly trout upside the head if you fake it ;) submit a fake quote that is R45 (~rastabeen@209.94.210.176) joined #gnuenterprise. hello chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-197-5.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. anyone have recommendations for a good NIC that works with linux the cheap one I have sucks with this new driver and the old one times out all the time but it is faster chillywilly: I've had good experiences with those nics that come up as dc0 in *bsd. chillywilly: Linksys perhaps? One of the cheap ones you can get at compusa. havoc says geta Linksys LNE100TX chillywilly, Just get the one wit RTL8139 Chipset... it is widel use, cheap and work on linux :) chillywilly: Yeah, that sounds about right. I've only bought a 'good' net card once, plopped down $100+ for it and it died about a year after I started using it.. was 3com, dont recall which.. I don't mean expensive just soemthing that works better than this myson803 card that likes to timeout and now it seems they crippled it with the newer drivers so it'll only do 30k/s chillywilly, May be compex will suit your need... Compex have a range of product, one of them are value... get It, jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) got netsplit. paq_ (~paq@202.155.9.188) got netsplit. jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) returned to #gnuenterprise. paq_ (~paq@202.155.9.188) returned to #gnuenterprise. 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