jbailey (~jbailey@CPE0060082df811-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client exiting" dneighbo: what is intented for gnue-integration? will an external (ebXML Business Service Interface) application be able to communicate with a gnue system via messaging or via API's or both? dneighbo: have you discussed these questions at one point? I think siesel is into gnue-integrator but havent checked further .. we havent discussed siesel hasnt discussed what he has checked in and called integrator so at this point i dont think its anything official i suspect in some ways what we have for reports could be massaged to have integrator type behaviors ok. will check with siesel then, what he wants integrator to be. you might remember, that I have a little bit of ebXML code at one stage I would be very pleased if this code can talk to a gnue system maybe by using a message oriented enterprise application middleware (bah such a long term) maybe by sending a message to gnue-integrator :) and that my app registers at the integrator for certain "messages" or events and then gets a message from gnue-integrator will check with siesel Arturas (~arturas@gsk.vtu.lt) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning Sun Sep 21 22:55:56 MST 2003 how is m? tell him derek says hi reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. hi reinhard good morning good afternoon reinhard: I run into a problem when I tried to run the GNUe_ClassRepository.gfd form I added gnue_module,gnue_class, and gnue_property to the gnue_accesslist filed of the gnue_useraccess table for user hacker 1) not sure if that is not intended at all ... when I run the from it comes up with an empty form in query mode i search for % in GNUe Modules Id get a terrible xmlrpclib fault: DB000: xmlrpclib.Fault: SachaS: thanks I've got a mail from another one that gets the same error but i couldn't reproduce reinhard: does the form work for you? with python 2.3 ;) but now i can reproduce same error for me even in python 2.1 cool he didn't tell me what form he tried and i (silently) assumed he tried sample.gfd ehm he _gets_ it on sample.gfd but maybe it's the same reason dneighbo (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Bye Bye" dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.169.225) left irc: Remote closed the connection lupo__ (lupo@pD9E68AE6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) reinhard: is working now. wt (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) left irc: "Client exiting" calc (~ccheney@conr-adsl-cheney.txucom.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wt_ (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. calc (~ccheney@conr-adsl-cheney.txucom.net) left #gnuenterprise. thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) joined #gnuenterprise. morning all hi thierry SachaS: thanks your welcomed hi dimas tripz_ (~ville@as13-5-6.ld.bonet.se) joined #gnuenterprise. dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.169.225) joined #gnuenterprise. 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README in /gnue-appserver/extensions/webfrontend/ says GNUe Appserver > 0.0.4 but current cvs is 0.0.3.99 I think that's in anticipation of the release being out very soon maybe I should just finis to read that README wtg (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "You ain't got debian you ain't got shit!" its working its all in the README! dah work pretty cool? webfrontent works with gnue-appserver (even an commit) :) Vee yes. have appserver working with normal gnue-form and webfrontend (javascript that's pretty sweet i think so, too Vee hows going? busy reinhard_ (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. hi reinhard_ hi webfronted is working for the address sample :) really ? cool what was the problem? i did not read the README ;) reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) SachaS: does it require a special db schema to work via app server? its all in the README :) SachaS: you scared him off dimas, i only tried the sample.html in the gnue-appserver/extensions/webfrontend reinhard_ shouldd still be here dimas I had the gnue-appserver frunning yesterday and reinahrd fixed a bug this morning and now the webfrontend is also working :) great so I found that gnue-designer has tools/extra/compile form for gnue javascript but when i compile gnue-sb/contacts/forms/contact_manager.gfd it returns an error wtg (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Action: SachaS is not sure of status of "compile to javascript" in desginer jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. tripz_ (~ville@as13-5-6.ld.bonet.se) left irc: Connection reset by peer jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard: are you here? hi jcater oh well good night Nick change: SachaS -> SachaZzz wendall911 (~wendallc@198.31.172.218) joined #gnuenterprise. tripz_ (~ville@as13-5-6.ld.bonet.se) joined #gnuenterprise. hey, when you guys get crashes in your wxPython apps does it lock up the job rather than exiting? any clean way to catch crashes like that.. the best wx app errors lock all input to X the others segfault Hrm. that's what I typically see These are usually python errors that get the app wedged maybe its the way I'm doing things. I'm gonna try the 'crash dialog' technique. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. wtg (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. which works excellently! http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11663 well I don't know if it works excellently with actual errors wtg (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "You ain't got debian you ain't got shit!" dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) wtg (~merlinx@ppp189-173.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. marcello (~marcello@adsl-ull-200-206.42-151.net24.it) joined #gnuenterprise. Hmm. I haven't looked at gnue all weekend. I should do a cvs up. wendall911 (~wendallc@198.31.172.218) left irc: Remote closed the connection is cvs version usable enough for a total newbie? (esp. designer and forms) is cvs version usable enough for a total newbie? (esp. designer and forms)? it was as of last week and not a lot of cvs activity over the weekend i think you'd be ok marcello dtm (~dtm@r1.txwifi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. herrow, goats does anyone here have any freely distributable invoice template documents? i do not jamest_: are you having a lovely day sir jamest_: i moved back to Salina KS jamest_: i shall come and find you someday dtm == ? dean? or someone else? my brain leaks so I can't recall things like this oic no i'm Dan Bethe, and i worked at HECAV aka CSS in cardwell hall all the while you were there, although we never met irl ah ok CSS is no more WHA :( they had 3 boxes only 2 hooked up geez! no one wanted to pay for the requirements for the 3rd new box are you talking about the Exemplars? yes then no one wanted to pay the maintenance were grinch and onceler the ones hooked up? yes :< the new faster one never came out of the box as near as I can tell well, i guess i'll take em if they dont want em. lol really?!!? yip wholly crap power and cooling requirements too much that's insane in the membrane and people moved to beowulf's but if anywhere could perform such fantastically expensive and wasteful bureaucracy, it would be KSU ok thank you jamest such senseless violence against supercomputers jamest_: well i saw on their web site, that CNS now has beowulf although no info on it as if CNS should have anything to do with cluster computing probably a political reason it was cash at the time CSS upkeep was high dollar no doubt and the original NSF grant only alloted money to pay a single part time sysadmin for a whole supercomputing center so me and jenga were paid from the physics dept iirc i would think that Talat, the master of grantmaking, would be able to pull it off if anyone could but i guess it's an economic issue in light of the advent of workstation parallelization jamest_: do you think there's any type of work that the Exemplars are better at than beowulf is? coz they do have several GB of RAM per crossbar i'm not qualified to say as I never got to play with them jamest_: so what ar eyou up to jamest_: are you a student or just a KSU lifer? :) ksu lifer i've got a buddy who just graduated and went fulltime at DCE Matt Baxa jamest_: did you graduate from ksu? nope never finished i've went back once to finish while working here but free time got sucked up by more paying jobs jamest_: you need one of those hi kwality phd's from KSU hehehe jcater: what's up howdy yes. /msg jcater shhhhhh, i don't want to tell them that I really stopped before the damage was irreversible is everything lovely in gnueland? just dandy yay it's like a painting of a pretty countryside :-o (nothing's moving) Action: dtm envision h0h0h0 actually i think the appserver guys have a fire under their arse of something commiting fewls are making the rest of us look bad oh them... yeah they're just cvs committin fewlz with money on their minds. lol only one single traceback left and i wish they'd send me an invoice template doc reinhard: aloha but i can't reproduce it :( dtm: hi ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" siesel (~jan@xdsl-195-14-221-229.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi siesel just about to do the release hi reinhard thats great. last chance to stop me ;-) just one question: did you test the webfrontend? no but SachaS tested it and it worked for him Action: dtm blamblamblamblamblam @ reinhard good. siesel, he noted a problem wrt the form builder in designer yes, ticket #396, I saw the mail so I found that gnue-designer has tools/extra/compile form for gnue javascript but when i compile gnue-sb/contacts/forms/contact_manager.gfd it returns an error hmmm, seems like I forgot to commit a fix. :( can you do it now? or is it outside appserver anyway? (i.e. in designer)? just pressed ENTER. I had to include a warning that the wizard is creating dropdown widgets which aren't supported by the js code yet. ah it's in designer anyway so i'll do the release now really can somebody help me how do i tag cvs? cvs tag? reinhard: Tag & branch, or just tag? just tag Also, do you want the tag sticky in your checkout, or is it just a release tag? release tag btw. do you have already run the cvs to changelog script? yes that's in my last commit now cvs tag -R appserver_rules_20030922 if not I have a fix to make gnue-forms.js report errors a bit more verbose. Might have to put a * at the end, I don't remember off hand. siesel: hold it ok. siesel: release is in progress TATÜ TATA ..... get out of the way ...... :) I'd recommend using the version # somehow in that tag, instead of date but that's just me btw, congrats on a release jcater: what tag would you use? gnue_appserver_0_0_4 ? or can it have dots? no dots :( that's normally what we do but you are free to do differently I just think it'd make sense to have the version # in there somehow sure actually i wanted to do it like that i think we are still too early for release codenames ;-) Action: mouns vous souhaite une bonne nuit last question will the tag only exist in gnue-appserver or will it exist in all sub-projects? mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection only appserver for a minute i considered naming it only release-0-0-4 but i guess i will follow the naming scheme and call it appserver-0-0-4-release you'd have to go into each module and tag if you wanted to do that esp. since we split it out of gnue/* into gnue-*/ hi ajmitch: ! ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan: hello there dtm!! hi dtm ajmitch: !!!!! now can somebody upload the tarball and the zip for me? ajmitch: what's up dtm!!!!! ajmitch: :-o just sitting here, about to eat breakfast :) ajmitch: i am the master of the mplayer/mencoder. Action: ajmitch fjears yes. the usual mess of study & code & occasionally play with fun things like gnue ajmitch: i found a repository of freely distributable biblical dramas, old skewl ajmitch: yay ajmitch: that's lke always yeah so what have you been up to? jcater/jamest: I think I need your help wrt uploading release and updating the website reinhard: do you have the tarball created? yep and the .zip scp dist/gnue-appserver-0.0.4* reinhard@ash.gnuenterprise.org:/var/www/downloads/releases/ Action: ajmitch wonders if dtm fell asleep ok should be up there figured how current release page works :) Does this one include all your magic to make setup.py love me? =) ajmitch: herrow ajmitch: i just ate spaghetti. ajmitch: i moved to Salina, KS ajmitch: my home town ajmitch: a mere hour from jamest_ jbailey: yes for appserver now that i've finished that, i can look at improving setup.py for common hopefully tomorrow --- sent announcement to the mailing lists I didn't figure out how to change the status page can someone please update the status for appserver to "Release 0.0.4 (Sept. 2003) available for download. This is a preview release, not ready for production use. Development continues in CVS." and add the announcement to the news on the website thanks --- I will give me a few minutes thanks no hurry dtm! reinhard: do you plan to release a new common to make jbailey happy (i.e. make packaging easy)? maybe well jamest said he might do that chillywilly: !!! I thought you were dead? ;P chillywilly: i sent you an email a while back to chillywilly@gnue.org but msoe.edu bounced it yea chillywilly: well i was but i came back with a vengeance, like on The Crow they're retards oic aaaaaaw sheeeit no respect for the alumni!!! you'd think that all that money and effort coulda at least bought you an email address well, jamest_ can prolly hook you up with a ksu.edu address. yea, well....I can get it back if I feel like it he'll make you an honorary alum in name they're just stupid oic chillywilly: well you might wanna fix that... i'd guess that address is importnat unless i was the only one who used it it's not that important chillywilly: does chillywilly@gnu.org work, then? or hwat coz those are the only two i recall danielb@gnu.org danielb@libertyetech.com neato i'm dtm@gnu.org in case you ever forget ok and if you have hot script-on-script piping action to send my way i could actually use some of that. i have a particular perl script that needs to be fix0r tiny li'l one reinhard: are triggers working in appserver yet? no jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client exiting" jamest_ (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). ok docs and technotes are also updated on the website somehow i get the feeling this should be more automated thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) got netsplit. siesel (~jan@xdsl-195-14-221-229.netcologne.de) got netsplit. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) got netsplit. thierry (~thierry@213.41.150.18) joined #gnuenterprise. ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. siesel (~jan@xdsl-195-14-221-229.netcologne.de) returned to #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) returned to #gnuenterprise. Action: reinhard slaps self Action: reinhard slaps self _real_ hard http://illfuckinghostit.com <----- !!!! sounds like if your'e ever in need, THIS GUY gots yer back. siesel: I forgot to change setup.py and MANIFEST.in to include the extensions directory :(( you just can't tell your mom where you web site is. yes, I saw it. *sniff* for a normal install should the webfrontend be included somewhere? that is should setup.py copy the files somewhere? it can just copy all files in a gnue/webfrontend directory (except readme) what kind of files are they? i guess architecture-independent? highly architecture dependend! It needs IE or mozilla ;) lo lol its maily gnue-forms.js and XMLRPC.js. The rest are samples. should we install the samples? i guess not what about the images? oh, I forgot. Yes they are necessary. They should be in a subdir of that webfrontend dir. ok dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: "Client exiting" siesel: webfrontend will be part of next release in any case sorry again i didn't do it on purpose but there were 3 or 4 bugs popping up in last minute it doesn't really matter, as I found some more bugs by myself. ok and I'm not in the situation, that I can fix it now. i think it won't be another 6 months till the next release dunno. I will have time next month :) probably johannes and me, too Action: siesel is feeling that 0.1.0 gets closer :) yes IMHO the next step is a test tool for appserver, something like 20 automated clients running on a different machine testing appservers performance ...holes ;) good idea :) don't you guys dare fsck with our 6 month between release policy at least appserver doesn't need 35 sql statements to show a single record in a form :) gee....what would ever require that? :) jcater: i think the update of the status line didn't wortk work it is now displayed at the top of every page instead of the 0.5.1 series available for download ah what were you wanting? siesel: are you trying to catch up on commit count? oh jcater: i thought about Action: jcater misunderstood http://www.gnu.org/software/gnue/tools/appserver.html there's a line "Status" oh gotcha i didn't find where that's edited admin/makesite.py I'm fixing though we really need to find a way to better automate this stuff