and yet another hour later, I have finally eaten slacker hay shuddup I had to wait for the rice to cook no, YOU shutup freakin hippie them's fightin' words heheh dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.164.179) joined #gnuenterprise. hi chillywilly, nickr hey oy :) whats gnu the enterprise today? R45 (~rastabeen@cuscon3194.tstt.net.tt) left irc: (in the) is that like the rabbit in the moon? :) i dont know, i know only the man in the moon a very eurocentric concept where you from? Oregon my two cousins lives there, and ... ingy from perl beautiful where abouts do you live? Bend hmmm... well, i asked. /me mapquests smack dab in the middle on the dry side near lava On lava and near sweet home! Not that near thats on the other side of some tall mountains ahhh, nice names Burns, bend, lava, sweet home, blue river. Very creative Dallas, Florence, Salem... oh Sisters?! Brothers? Fossil Action: dcmwai is away: Lunch time what a waky place! Sisters is named for the Three Sisters, some big mountains Brothers, I dunno its not really a town so much as a taxidermy shop and a restarea :) gotta give lydia a call, and come visit oregon some time soon and by rest area I mean a bathroom and some picknick benches in an empty field heheh a bump in the road looks like the coast line is well inhabited yea the wet side has a lot of people you like it out there? In Oregon? Yea why is it called lava? you have vulcanic activity? I live right next to a volcano no way! the whole cascades is volcanic doe it stink? there is a major volcano about 30 miles south whos lava flows most of the population of central oregon lives on No its not active that must be exciting! washington had a mount st. helen explode are you scared? No No point in that.. :) But you do watch for signs of possible danger? could it just unexpectly explode? Unlikely Its not like a big mountain the hot spot that created it is probably long past Action: nickr is searching fora good photo Lava Lands national scenic area, Bend, Oregon (August 2000). http://www.snapfish.com/share/p=52921998399335044/l=5075551/t_=8918 thats uhh crap I can't remember the name of the park thats about 25 miles north of here I have photos of that bridge in fact lava langs? lava lands? that isn't lava lands I have never heard the name 'lava lands' actually http://nick.industrialmeats.com/data/pictures/photos/2003/april/17/104733-dscf3465.jpg.html not the best picture but you see this is from my front door and thats pilot butte, all snowy thats cool : http://nick.industrialmeats.com/proj/art/misc/smilypyrra-2.png i like that thanks http://nick.industrialmeats.com/data/pictures/photos/2003/march/03/072724-dscf1837.jpg.html here's a view fdrom my room did you make the pyramid? Yes check this Action: mdupont rummages here's one of my pictures of that bridge http://nick.industrialmeats.com/data/pictures/photos/2002/august/25/pict2349.jpg.html a humorous sign in that park http://nick.industrialmeats.com/data/pictures/photos/2002/august/25/pict2251.jpg.html nice bridge pic http://nick.industrialmeats.com/data/pictures/photos/2002/august/25/pict2270.jpg.html that is a really nice site, nick thanks black and white.. very classy pic thaonk you I don't think I take nearly enough B&Ws yeah, sometimes it makes a big difference I fele like I should invest in some film my dad had a darkroom did some cool photos yea that'd change my whole process. right now I'm pretty snapshotty i got a digital photo now and the results aren't the best. fujifilm a204 2mb and 3x optical zoom I have a Fujifilm S2 pro And a Nikon N6006 (film) all i need to do is figure out how to get the data off the camara! to linux they take the same lenses so its convenient cool but I've only taken two rolls of film, and never gotten them developed. Usually cameras act like storage devices that you mount and copy the files over. yes, but i need to get the usb stuff loaded, I am so afraid of my kernel! if its a standard kernel, its probably all there just need to insert the right modules ahh good such as usb-storage and sd_mod actually I think the other way around I'm too tired to think about it. ok thanks i need to just try it out yea, http://introspector.sourceforge.net/images/ if you catch me when I'm not sleepy, I'll be glad to help you http://introspector.sourceforge.net/images/introspector_logo_v2.png kinda ugly but that is similar to your pyramid heh, thats funny the svg logo is cool can you view svg? http://nick.industrialmeats.com/proj/art/nicklogo/nicklogo.png No, but theres a png of it in there cool that is similar, tht that i wanted to show the eye looking inside but i realized you need another person looking inside not the eye itself Yea I see you could have the eye on a stalk tee well, i was also thinkg of the eye lookinf down and the camera from inside/underneath reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. ah or even the view from the viewpoint of the eye, looking inside that would show the inside of the pyramid hmmm..... well anyway nice chatting with ya, gotta get some stuff done nice chatting I hit the hay later hi hi ajmitch, hows things? things are well, how are you? good i have had a couple of setbacks, but i am confident good to hear you're still up & about i am really interested in gnuenterprise and hurd now ok what you been up to ? why hurd? because I think it is the future the usual - got exams (finals) end of the month finals? you almost done? almost done for the year then back for another 2 semesters next year cool I could be finished in one, but I want to do some full-year courses as well like network security, software engineering i am looking to start my own business now great with the economy the way it is, rather would invest in myself probably a good idea what will you be focusing on in your business? i want to make a system based on free software and sell consultancy what sort of system? i want to make a new billing system for telcoms, ah right based on my experience at worldcom yeah sounds like a good sort of plan it would tie into gnutelephony and gnue bayonne? yes i need to look into bayonne, i think it is very specifiy but they could also use a billing system i am more interested in a generic one that i can use for handling wifi and internet as well general data/voice carrier stuff so you hope to use GNUe to do a system? i need to look into what gnue has but yes the focus is on calculating costs of the usage and associating the usage to services and locations the selling point will be the support and the updates like a subscription service right it sounds reasonable i need to do a proper review of the current stuff before I make any plans yeah mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. gnue has borrowed or will borrow billing stuff from arias, I guess or develop own packages for it not telecom-specific like you want though Action: mdupont looks probably the schema, for a start Action: ajmitch doesn't know where that stuff is at :) you'd have to ask derek\ http://freshmeat.net/projects/arias/?topic_id=917%2C76%2C79%2C130 ARIA is business class management (ERP) software. It lets you manage inventory levels, maintain payroll, and process orders. It is written primarily in PHP and incorporates the ADODB database abstraction layer. There are currently translations for Chinese, Spanish, Italian, and French. yeah, based off NOLA, iirc php I think the arias author is around here I know php is nice.... but i a scared of it the schema & data relationships is the main work that can be shared heh wary is a better term yes schema is very importatn ok, more later ah yes, dcmwai is the developer today i am working on the introspector! :) ok, have fun :) how is that going? good! i have a breakthough in speed now ok converted all this rdf and xml into arrays in memory it is soooooo fast was it getting reparsed everytime? yes now i emit a c program that contains all the data as an array ok i can compile that and load in milliseconds the traversal is also very fast reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Those are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary numbers, and those who don't." back Action: dcmwai is back (gone 02:04:59) ajmitch: Yes I'm... Action: dcmwai is Just back from the RHCE exam with the RHCE Title :) mdupont: hello :) mdupont: Do you have any suggestion/feedback on the current accounting schema :) hi dcmwai i will have some i will be reviewing this all in detail how many customers are using this? mdupont: Not Sure :) i need to look into detail into all these packages one thing I want to get is a copy of SAP! mdupont: I'm not sure what scale company are you using it for. But It you are really Big... It is Not really that suitable without modification. but they wont sell me one! mdupont: WHY? why? to make interfaces to it Action: dcmwai think SAP don't want business any more :) it would be a great selling point if you are SAP compatible mdupont: Not.. I'm not sure how SAP really work. it works with restrictive licenses and lots of BS it will be good if someone can get me something like how and what they work off :) mdupont: What is BS stand for ? Bull Shit :) yes haha frankly... dcmwai: that is is the problem we need to have a running instance of SAP to learn from Arias/Nola current account schema is Not good enough. if all the free developers pooled our resources we form a company and buy on instance of it all the shareholders have access to the machine for testing mdupont: Maybe I can arrange something on that... If someone really want to pay for it... and buy one instance of it I bet we can get like 200 people to buy into this there are some many people spending so much money to learn sap 200 people all using the same copy of SAP on the same server? yes and differnt company? 200 people all members of this company one company Oh... wel sell shares That is ok I think. each share would entitle you to an access share, AH... What did SAP told you, why they dont sell it? Share is more that what Aria-erp can do :( s/that/than they said that they wont sell me that and to go to hell Har?... hum that is something wrong... well, the issue is that they make soooooo much money off of hiding this information How much you say you will pay they *wont* sell me for the purposes of learning and testing Learning and testing.. ah you need to have a sap certification I've one friends have it :) But she is always too busy to entertain me :( yes? well, I would be interested in forming a incorporation that does that it would sell out shares to free software developers .... and have a testing pool for them to use for compatibility testing with SAP people soft etc all those things that you need to make real money derek, Read the Above when you are here and have some feedback We could really get lots of people signing up for that I think and have a full server hosting mdupont: Well tell you something if you don't know... This ir is log :) i know i am not afraid So, watch when you are "Talking" it may lead you to hell with that tinny log :) yes? ok SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-222.wasp.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. hello Sacha Aiya... SachaZzzz came here to sleep :) hi dcmwai SachaZzzz must have a good sleep :) SachaZzzz: Good Night, and No Dream... Dream is Bad.. :) actually he does not have to sleep as there are all the irc logs ... HAHA What are you upto today ? Sacha? we (family) went for a small hike/walk. soon friends are coming over for dinner not much gnue or ebXML. ok Have a Nice Day and Dinner :) i am about 5 days short on the gnue irc log. Action: dcmwai Still think that he is lack of Sport :) was at a open standards conference SachaS: I think that there is a logging machine on #gnuenterprise? open source is a topic at the highest levels! dcmwai yeah I will check the logs, maybe tomorrow SachaS: so today dinner is about open source.. :) Oh That is too good to be ture :) lol we sure will talk about our love towards gnu/linux :) Action: dcmwai hope can join SachaS for the dinner ;) BTW, I'm a vegetarian :) swiss cheese fondue mmmm, swiss chocolate fondue no meat just lots of cheese :) ok i am off damn i would like to hack up a business system . see ya Cheese... Nick change: SachaS -> SachaCheese Tata LuftHans: is awake because of the "Cheese" Word ;) dcmwai: just finally remembered to retune screen on #gnuenterprise rather than the window it was on haha doing something important? that and I just got home a few minutes ago I was compiling some non-Free Software :( pine, the semi-Free MUA... LuftHans: what to do... This is the world... Open Source is trying to make the "Computer World" work a little better.... We will have to wait for the result.... After all year and day... maybe someday... Close source software will be gone, Then opensource software will be in the Basic Computer 101 :) well pine isn't closed source, it's just not Free it is no cost, but that isn't Freedom :) well, tonight I suckered^wconned^w^baited^wtalked someone else into using GNUe well, almost... she's having probs cuz it's buggy and not working properly haha Who is that luckly guy oh girl she was at RevDeke's service a few weeks ago too oh... I think I have her convinced to work with GNUe until she's too frustrated to go on, then work on PHP for a while, then move back to GNUe when she can... she doesn't want to ask questions on IRC, but I'm working on that haha she's smarter than I am, so I think she'll do allright once she learns how to work around some of the limitations she's running into I still think php os more easier :) sorry to ask is Gnue fully python? unfortunately With C++? I think it's all Python the web interface for the forms is PHP Hum, I think will have to learn python then... there is some pare I thin php cannot achieve... components that have been drawn in ( Bayonne, DCL, ... ) are still in whatever language they were in like dynamic content searching... (showing a item whey typing) I see PHP could do it, but it would probably be painful. Very painfully and until Now I still didn't got a clue... Unless... that "Option" is on another Page... or something.. well, there is a PHP interface to GTK and you could come up with your own GUI system all written in PHP it's turing complete, so you can do most anything oh? REally Where where Action: dcmwai is feeling sleepy.. it just doesn't have a lot of things that really should pre-exist to make a cross-platform GUI tool Action: LuftHans needs to pass out night LuftHans night dcmwai nice talking to you all I believe bourne shell is turing complete, so you can do anything in it. It just might take a week or 50 to run :)