R45 (~rastabeen@cuscon2190.tstt.net.tt) left irc: jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-64-190-227.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.164.179) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: having troubles sleeping? hi whaddup yo/ ? chillx0rswillx0rs derek. jamest. the rest of you know who you are. it's these guys i'm worried about. haha no this is about normal shing whirrrr holy crap it's past midnight WHAT HAPPEN somebody set us up the bomb lol :( h0h0h!!! :/ man I got cobra lilies today b3w4r3 they're frickin rad nite jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-64-190-227.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Client exiting" um mdupont (mdupont@p5080E08E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #gnuenterprise. anyone awake? nope http://mirrored.flabber.nl/britney.lookalike/ interesting resemblence reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning jbeimler (~john@user-2ivf41c.dialup.mindspring.com) left irc: Connection timed out good morning hi so gnue does not have any packageS? yes and no "official" gnue has no packages yet but there is a project "gnue-sb" that has packages gnue-sb is a kind of "gnue lite" that uses the tools from the gnue project reinhard: what is the parser drivers in geas? i got classdefs compiled yes classdefs is the parser hi thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) joined #gnuenterprise. morning what about the driver reinhard? how can I call the parser i got the lib siesel (~jan@xdsl-213-168-117-43.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. well mdupont: morning yes hi hi dtm, hi siesel hihihihi okay guys, grandma got me a pitcher of cobra lilies today. they freaking rawk mdupont: the parser was called directly by the geas main program hił mdupont: you can't call it directly if you only have the library IIRC you would have to write a C wrapper around it siesel: hi, you playing again with utf-8? :) hił cobra lily quick info --> http://www.carnivorousplantsuk.co.uk/Cobra.html pics --> http://www.carnivorousplants.org/conservation/images/dcali08b.jpg :) is what i see at least It got back, in the right format. Its a hi + small 3 mdupont: there is gcdparser in python too. i see hi + ^+A + upper3 It was in the _featuretest subdir of appserver, but someone has made a package of it. reinhard: utf-8 is strange. But its the only way for me to get all kinds of characters utf-8 is cool mdupont: you should look in the irclog, I remeber it was 1-3 days ago. siesel: the gcd parser has just nothihng in it siesel: your changes in gnue finally made me look at unicode and utf-8 and how all this works ok, gotta run I will find it siesel: i found it very interesting reinhard: cool. unicode evangelism is working ;) :) hi siesel johannesX (~johannes@M1264P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) hi btami siesel: if i understand correctly, appserver code internally works with utf-8. is that correct? yep. and common's dbdrivers return unicode strings for data btw. i was playig with utf-8 on win32 too :) and we translate that correct? yes. it was easier to do it this way than translate all outgoing messages from unicode to utf-8, which would be the correct solution btami: great. labels with the gtk2 driver with utf8.gfd are OK siesel: couldn't the xmlrpc driver do the translation from unicode to utf-8? reinhard: that should be the prefered way, possibly we have to rewrite parts of the driver. but that has to wait for a new datatype system in gnue-common. sorry, have to run. 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R45 (~r45@cuscon6899.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) hi all dee tee em doobie doowop, fellas woooooo Vee2d2: yes indeed lallaalalalaa maxy__ (~maxy@OL53-216.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) well, that did the trick. everybody likes softserv wxPrintPreview was created by the axis of evil as a war crime :(( seriously? yes i didn't know that ingenious. or in an attempting to get me to commit war crimes wait, what war is this now I tell ya what, working with it makes me want to torture people and purge ethnic minorities. Action: dtm declare war against the machines oic well we cna't have that, now also it's pretty trite. been done. haven't you heard? any crime can be declared a war chrime these days i mean find some other way to express yourself dewd go beat a Windows user something healthy productive Action: nickr beats himself go nickr Action: dtm persecute nickr GO! GO! GO! ow stop the hurting ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nomg now you see the violence inherent in the system :(( :( yes it's all there. especially when i keep listening to all these aggressive mp3s that nickr is poisoning my brane with Wings of STeel is not violent its succulant w00t python2.3 is now default in testing! nickr: yeah i'ts a'ight I noticed when my gallery program stopped working and also started spewing errors er, warnings dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.209.1) left irc: "Client exiting" actually it was only one error and three warnings chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-193-166.wi.rr.com) left irc: "brb, woooo new LCD monitor!" but I wanna know how a bit shift on an integer that would dispose of some bits could possibly be useful if casted to a long if you're shifting the bits, it seems like you'd WANT to dispose of the ones that fall off nickr: I feel for ya wrt wxPrintxxxx crap jcater: thank goodness somebody does I'm gettin no love from #wxwindows anymore I'm pondering what to do because it is completely unusable as it currently is yes it is well, I mean it works but it crashes mysteriously on some people's computers because of memory errors :( So I'm gonna either have to fix it or write something else I'm thinking PDF I'm wary of using the ActiveX Acrobat componant though (I would generate with ReportLab or something) Action: jcater has been meaning to try out http://www.daily.de/RepWrt/ for our project but haven't had a chance yet maxy__ (~maxy@OL53-216.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. report lab is a pretty nice Free pdf libarry basically like writing to a canvas and it produces a pdf file my only problem is DISPLAYING and PRINTING that displaying and printing are overrated imho Heh All the data is just sort of 'out there' :/ it'd be nice if there were a python binding for RepWrt dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.209.1) joined #gnuenterprise. It'd be nice if the fucking printing framework operated in a sane and straight-forward manner so are there alternatives in windows to using Acrobat for viewing pdf embedded nicely in a wxWindow? maxy__ (~maxy@OL53-216.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) nickr: no idea :( foo. we fudge on that hows tat? but it's biting us in the ass now we us a wxHtml window to create our reports (and thus preview or export) then print from that window but sometimes that behaves unexpectedly oh nelly wx printing just plain sucks that is worse than what I'm doing I generate a presentation neutral xml representation using dark arts, I convert it into something that renders to a DC then using the horrible wxPrintPreview I print and view it however it produces some unexpected results and problmes for one thing, because wxPrintPreview asks for the number of pages BEFORE it gives me a DC to work with, I have no way of giving the corret number and its like black magick to get the pixel->logical size thing to work, so the preview is off depending on the zoom the user sets in the preview viewer jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). and the numberc of pages is always different between the preview and the actual printout it should not be this difficult :) yeah that's one of my biggest current gripes I get calls all the time a) give me a dc to work with before you ask for the number of pages b) let the user select the paper size, and then tell me how many pixels it is, and I'll draw to it reliably these are not so much to ask for! 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"Um, no... ignore that" the easy solution is to hide the satus bar :) hmm Action: jcater likes your style I print "page foo of bar " at the top of the page preview = wxPrintPreview(po, po1, myreportView.printData) frame = wxPreviewFrame(preview, parent, "Report Print Preview") frame.Initialize() frame.GetStatusBar().Hide() # kludge, fixme, rewrite preview stuff. frame.Show(True) teehee Action: jcater is gonna borrow that I'd really like to rewrite the framework in python so it works correctly so you pass an object with Prepare, GetInfo and DrapPage and it handles all the gory details including paper selection and such which the object can get fgrom the DC it gets in Prepare basically do away with the halfdozen objects currently involved with all their pointless interdependencies, all their inasnity DIE DIE DIE chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-193-166.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@62.212.97.112) left irc: Remote closed the connection maxy__ (~maxy@OL53-216.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-64-190-227.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wtg`sleep (~merlinx@ppp191-211.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nick change: wendall911 -> wendall911_away Nick change: wendall911_away -> wendall911 maxy__ (~maxy@OL53-216.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. maxy_ (~maxy@OL53-216.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) hello people! Action: ajmitch looks around for derek there is no derek, anywhere :( Do not flip the tape over, there is no side 2. If you see a side 2, DONT LOOK AT IT. -as seen on vhs tape heh I was just hunting down derek to talk about the wonders of ical mac's ical ? ical is far more than mac yeah ? schweet ... is there a linux version? a linux version of what? it's a standard ical you mean an ical server? ical program =) ical client? there are a few of those University of Washington has a java iCal client and server ic ... my bad =) they're arrogant assholes, so don't expect much help with it, but it is a good product heh derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out --- Thu Oct 16 2003