hi all chillywi1ly: http://www.bash.org/?166694 will contain the beetles interlude mdupont werd not there yet dtm: so you use gnue ? mdupont: nosir i have no application for it mdupont: i am merely an infrastructuralist and a free softwareist i use things which skirt the periphery of gnue things which i wish for gnue to someday unify at least as an interoperable framework or metaproject mdupont: how about you well, I am looking into what i can use neato. trying to build up a business software package mmhm. yeah i can tell you're hard core. Action: mdupont browser fm.net for hundreds of packages gawd! hee they keep makin em! wow! it is amazing i think i wont have to write as much as consolidate write what? code Action: mdupont is going to review the database models from all these systems what systems? well, there are hundreds of them i am downlaoding but sql ledger gnu ledger and many others gnucash myinvoicer web-erp xiwa holy crap. dont forget interchange link? interchange is already bridged with sql-ledger http://icdevgroup.org http://interchange.rtfm.info i'll try to answer questions if i can, and you should idle in #interchange here on freenode btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. moin reinhard derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) moin moin derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all hihi :) hi all reinhard: how was the meeting? reinhard, meeting? linux... linux world expo frankfurt yes :) tie wearer meeting yeah, bunch of suits but a good occasion to meet suits :) with gray faces well the geeks also had gray faces somehow :))) hehehe U R Bk Home reinhard? yes a pile of work has accumulated on my desk :( i was soooo tired yesterday i fell asleep at my desk at word work ouch but i had fun with you guys Action: mdupont has downloaded 30 free accounting and erp packages including sql ledger for review mdupont is presently hacking the planet erp! chillywi1ly: !!!! chillywi1ly: i have assimilated mdupont into #interchange. you're next. mdupont: chillywi1ly wants to learn interchange and I gave him a personal verbal primer the other night. he's an ecommerce specialist now. no way ;) Oh. But you must. ok, i need to go to work dtm: thanks for you support you kept me up until 3am! i will be getting this thing running in the next days at least a review of the database structure mdupont: <3 chillywi1ly: wtf hey! you're chillywi1ly, not chillywilly! IMPOSTER don't sweat it homie *i* kept YOU up huh :) reinhard: it was nice meeting you. I have talked to siesel yesterday, and we discussed some ideas Action: chillywi1ly yawns we need to talk about this object model in the app server Action: chillywi1ly was doing mad business accounting w/ gnucash did i ever show you guys this? http://smuckola.org/pics/businessplace_of_the_future/incoming_call/ that's me on the right and rsb on the left or better said, I need to read up on what you have chillywi1ly: check that crap out Nick change: mdupont -> md-work IT'S ART chillywi1ly: l8ter I thought rsb had long hippie hair ;) chillywi1ly: off and on, yes wth are you guys doing? chillywi1ly: sometimes he looks like Philip Anselmo except happy, other times clean shaven and with a tie call over the net? chillywi1ly: no, see we created a set of wireless headsets by taking ancient wired headsets, and not plugging them in. when was that picture taken? it's futuristic! witness the future! heh riiight ;) here, now, today! from back then! see, so, we realized a vision. and captured it. suuuuuuure anywho, how long did you live in CA? cause you sound like a surfer dude ;) Action: chillywi1ly prolly sounds like a dork dtm: as great as interchange is we need GNUe eCommerce ;) Action: chillywi1ly ducks md-work (mdupont@p5080E19B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Client exiting" dtm, is that wireless headset true? dcmwai: is what about it true? wireless headset 02:08 < dtm> we created a set of wireless headsets by taking ancient wired headsets, and not plugging them in. dtm, so it is no true... ?! I confess! It is true that we created a set of wireless headsets by taking ancient wired headsets, and not plugging them in. dtm, How much they are sell :) They were not wireless headsets when we found them. dtm, I'm interested :) dcmwai: I dont know. I'm pretty sure they're totally worthless. worthless Oh.. That too bad ... See they'd be great but the only problem is that they're horribly obsolete if they even work at all. They're pretty much only good for taking stupid pictures and making up stupid stories with. :-/ But we *really* like stupid stories and pictures. So for us, they work *really* well. haha :} that warehouse is full of stuff that's really obsolete to the mainstream, but really good for experts. Action: dcmwai is thinking of a wireless headset that can ease him on answering phone call. aha. yeah here's a tip you can make your own if you're thrifty Action: dcmwai is listening by taking an old obsolete set of wired headsets, and chopping off the cords or otherwise leaving them unplugged oh wait. you said you wanted it to answer phone calls. never mind. sorry dood, i can't help ya there dtm, What is the wireless headset working on your site? internal call :) dcmwai: say again i dont use a wireless headset i only play a wireless headset user in stupid pictures on my web site :-/ I see dtm, I'm not sure how the wireless headset is going to get power and signal... dcmwai: Hmmm... That is an interesting problem... I'm not sure either... That is why we have bluetooth headset.. yeah. bluetooth is good But it is Not far.. Action: dcmwai thinking of something so that you can move from 1st floor to the 4th floor :) yeah. that's far. that's really far. Not really... only about 50 M but taking the obsticale as distance, that would be 250 M Action: dcmwai must be daydreaming... Action: dcmwai have got to wash his car... It is dirty like hell.. :) yea it's too far for bluetooth. Nick change: dcmwai -> dcmwai|AWAY Action: dcmwai|AWAY is away: Away From Computer thierry (~thierry@marseille-2-a7-62-147-30-82.dial.proxad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. morning mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) thierry: hi hi dtm mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. thierry (~thierry@marseille-2-a7-62-147-30-82.dial.proxad.net) left irc: "Client exiting" http://www.claws-and-paws.com/site/allyoursmurf.php viewing is mandatory observe using the Flash plugin, if you dare ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: Vee ponders what debian's bugtracker uses to append emails sent to bug#@... to the bug report.. 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Action: mdupont is looking at compiere2 mdupont, dump compiere 2 :) i am just looking at the database model not the rest they also seem to have nice classes for the process model I have looked at GNULedger, it is too simple to speak about also the compier has a nice set of strings for different languages yea :) Action: mdupont now has reviewed Compier, GnuCash, Intechange for sql tables mdupont, any suggestion or... summary? summary is that Compier has an awsome db model it is generated out of a case tool interchange is too hacky for me to bother installing i will be reviewing that manually Action: mdupont will publish a formal review when it so so far i have 25 packages to go! mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. mdupont can't install interchange because he refuses to install apache, fyi dtm: please dont get upset my computer is maxed out i'm not. you're just not making any sense :) i had to uninstall apache because i dont have *any* space :-I dtm: please dude. did you rm -rf /usr/share/doc you are taking it personally, i am really sorry dude no i'm not. ok, then let me continue right now i am on xiwa you're asking people to make database dumps for you, rather than installing it yourself or reading the fine documentation becuase you wont install apache. and that makes no sense. you're not gonna get anywhere without apache :) probably half the software you're reviewing at least, can't be used without apache i mean i understand where you're coming from, but this is an unreasonable situation i just want a copy of the database schema so I can compare it for tables and attributes with the other systems i dont want to run it right now i know that, but you gotta install them, dont ya? you seriously spend two hours trying to install interchange without apache installed?! s/spend/spent/ and call it hacky? do it? ? i am going to review your dbconf/pgsql directory i do have a brain mine? my dir? the apache package is 2MB, btw you dont have 2MB of free filesystem? that's scary :/ dtm, what is the point? it is over for now :-I mmhm. when I am done with my review i will send it to you personally for checking you know what? the IRS sucks if you think you might get a bad grade or something I hate them i dont want to piss you off they must die chillywi1ly: oic yesyes the irs is bleeding the nation so they can give the money to haliburton Action: mdupont just filled up his harddrive again w00t heheh of course there's several methods and tables we can't just have one method that would be too easy ;P chillywi1ly: for doing taxes? mdupont: did you delete /tmp and /usr/share/doc and your browser caches and your log files? :) mdupont: and unnecessary packages? mdupont: where's the review to be featured? Vee: werd Action: Vee whaffs some some emanating from his mouth after finishing his curry :-. Action: Vee wipes some sweat from his brow Vee: yea man hmm, I meant to type that elsewhere let me check I mean for the tax tables ad crap chillywi1ly: agreed dtm: thanks, usr/share/doc seems fat it is still deleteing! I swear every stinkin' irs document is like 50-60 pages long tri-fold style they dont take xml yet? pdfs you can pay electronically at least dtm: it has freed up 300mb and counting! apt-get clean; rm -rf /usr/share/doc; look into what you have laying around in /usr/src, too or wherever else you might have source trees laying around Vee: the thing I find funny is the whole guestimating you income....that's...ummm...interesting thanks Vee! and you penalized for guestimating incorrectly I was doing that every morning on my laptop for a long time Action: chillywi1ly is gonna penalized for missing quarters chillywi1ly: for estimated taxes ? yea is there any other way to do it ;)? Move to canada where the "DElcared income" and "remmittance owed" lines are the same number. =) chillywi1ly: you not having it taken out of your paycheck? a more exact method...or does every biz just have to guess I just waited for april to come around and took the hit then I am an independent entity business whatever chillywi1ly: Don't you have to do it on the previous quarter? I thought you worked for dude 'dude' :) on a 10999 1099 me has like 1gb free! and also I have a few other small jobs Action: Vee pats mdupont on the butt just fyi, irs is very, very touchy on whether a person is declared independent contractor vs employee and will eat you alive if you do it wrong http://www.e-austin.org/contractors.htm is a good summary Action: jcater runs off to find snacks I am pretty sure I fit the bill of being independent Action: Vee bookmarks thanks Vee dtm I have my own office...a registered business name and am on a 1099 w/ people ! Nick change: mdupont -> md-afk Action: chillywi1ly was reading irs.gov religiously yeah, sounds like it just saying, ya know yea sounds like you ahve it covered thanks for lookin out for me bro ;) but I'd say a huge chunk of people do it wrong and get hit really hard years to come chillywi1ly: did you write off the real estate and utilities for your office? I will ;P yay chillywi1ly: youre an example to us all uh, no jcater is the real hero here ;) Action: chillywi1ly is just some annoying channel occupant IIS = inherently insecure server heh need food gimme Action: Vee offers some superspicy curried beef dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi dale chillywi1ly: Good Afternoon. chillywi1ly: What's new? getting a handle on how to do my own taxes and crap or at least an idea of how to do so and then maybe I will have someone else do it ;) Oi. Taxes. I was self-employed for a few years. My taxes were a mess. Had to haev someone help me out. 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It's very scary reading python code that I wrote a month ago. :) same here I've at least stopped putting ; at the end of every line. =) sigh and i catch myself doing it Action: jamest kicks the java app he lives in now Still aren't rid of that thing? =)] it's forever mine now I thought you were slowing morphing it into being GNUe? i am but i imagine the core sales app will be java for years ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.173.165) joined #gnuenterprise. http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~jamest/apis/ we currently have not been using pythondoc style comments but if we did those would be a lot more complete a tool created last year called epydoc creates those docs i'm tempted to add support for api doc creation to setup.py via epydoc as I think this would be really handy especially if we addopted a python docstring type setup w/ epydocs markup language bbl mind to tell me what is bbl? be back later so bbl oh I see havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) got netsplit. dtm (~dtm@r1.txwifi.com) got netsplit. dtm (~dtm@r1.txwifi.com) returned to #gnuenterprise. havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) got lost in the net-split. Nick change: SachaS -> SahcaLunch Nick change: SahcaLunch -> SachaLunch havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hey havoc hi gidday havoc wendall911 (~wendallc@www2.83864.com) left #gnuenterprise. Action: ajmitch has heard rumours of someone getting married...? :) I was thinking about that too.. is that still an event to come or has it passed? I heard that havoc was getting married tomorrow.. oh, is it tomorrow? chuckle.. on haloween holy crap, is tomorrow halloween already?!!? yes neat. i just watched Misery today for us people in NZ :-o NZ IN THA FUTAR Action: ajmitch has his sniping perch ready to pick off anyone that comes a-knocking at the door Action: chillywi1ly is watching the faculty on scifi "the faculty" woo.. someone getting married :) 15:58 -!- EnmaDaiou [~enma@236F41B6.C75CF1A5.72DE1598.IP] has quit [Quit: Read error: -1 + -5 = -5 (Connection reset by third grade math)] heh havoc is getting married la la la laaaaa Action: chillywi1ly will be there front and center ;P lalalla llalalalaallalaaaaaaa. chillywi1ly: really? yep hehhehe there's a rhythm to that o/` chillywillyrilly dcmwai: tomorrow of all days chillywi1ly: !!! ER.. So nice.. 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