alandd (~alandd@h-69-3-76-178.PHNDAZ91.dynamic.covad.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" some day one of my past significant others are gonna look me up on google and this irc log is what they're gonna find. :-I Action: dtm waves the one from ksu i miss terribly, and by far most others oh yeah and they'll find http://smuckola.org hey dtm and they'll be staggered to try and recall if i was that batty. or rather, if they would have chosen to associate themselves with someone who is. chillywi1ly: oh hi there chillywi1ly HI :) buddy chillywi1ly: i was just researching a couple of christian gaming sites. nothing i've tried runs under wine. it's a travesty and so i idle in their irc channel lying in wait waiting to lie I'll get em! chillywi1ly: what's up chillywi1ly: are you ready to jump into IC? nah, but I might have an opportunity to use it chillywi1ly: i've been learning how to do nontrivial product matrices I dunno ok it's far out and i think it's like your karaoke debacle learning also how to put each SKU in multiple concurrent categories heheh ben is talking to them right now on the phone he's a dedicated guy ain ain't he? heh! apologizing for osC? heh, no I don't think so... i mean... taking down their further criteria? :) dunno yet he's still talking to them someone in #interchange found a quote somewhere, "osCommerce sucks pyramid dust". :-/ HEH harsh. dtm: can't say I feel all that sympathetic for osC ;) yeah. just 'cause. fly little db, fly also there's a whole open src package for realty management. open-realty.org i found that to be most unexpected. the trajectory of an e450 and raid shelf is rather amazing... :) but it makes sense. LuftHans: yeah e450s are really fast! ;) dtm: you like o-r.org? i guess so! i just glanced at it once. neato that it exists Action: LuftHans was using it for a customer, but the search engine thingy just didn't work they took a proejct called "openrealty" and forked it into one called "open-realty". dtm: yeah, I was hoping to get said customer to fund some development on it and the name of their own product is misspelled on the front page. LuftHans: cool dtm: yeah, that confuzilated me for a while LuftHans: so it's pretty much good huh Nick change: SachaLunch -> SachaS chillywi1ly: what are you up t o? ummm, stuff ;) ... Action: dcmwai is so boring when siesel is not here for question :) haiya! dcmwai: s/boring/bored/ :) dcmwai: meaning "I'm bored" or in a state of boredom. Vs. "I'm boring" or uninteresting. my wife commonly misused the words too, and it was often funny to hear them used that way. hazard (~hazard@dsl-202-72-181-224.wa.westnet.com.au) joined #gnuenterprise. hazard (~hazard@dsl-202-72-181-224.wa.westnet.com.au) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client exiting" btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-195-208.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. morning hi hello :) hi Thank Vee siesel: Hello I'm waiting for you :) haha ;) I've got html, pdf and text working now :) Action: dcmwai is not the guy actually doing that... that is siesel who do the jobs dcmwai: great. siesel: Now I need somemore of your help... siesel: How do you really print the UTF-8 grd and the utf-8 db? I've try.. but it didn't work the way it should be. one second, on the phone siesel: I've waited for 5 hours so this few minutes is nothing to me isn't that right ? :) Action: SachaS thinks dcmwai fell in love with siesel ;) :-o Action: dtm starts the violin haha ;] dcmwai: you mean printing to a printer? Nick change: SachaS -> SachaAway reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Don't believe in miracles -- rely on them." NPi (~nicolas@d213-102-3-124.cust.tele2.fr) joined #gnuenterprise. NPi (~nicolas@d213-102-3-124.cust.tele2.fr) left #gnuenterprise ("Kopete 0.7.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"). siesel: No.. I meant printing on an html files or PDF files. you can send these files directly to a printer siesel, Not try it yet.. But I think It wouldn't be possile yet siesel: I think You miss understand me... Hum.. I'm talking about the month2.grd Which all unicode is UTF-8 when using grcvs to get and html /pdf the result isn't there. Or should I say.. the output isn't utf-8 Action: dcmwai is away: Dinner, Let get food and Go home :) you mean you haven't a pdf file? Or that you can print it out? Or that the server doesn't create it? Action: dcmwai is back (gone 00:00:22) siesel: I meant when I use the Gnue-report server to create a pdf/html files with a utf-8 grd the result is not show correctly... the result--> the html files or pdf files ok, have you set the correct font in pdf.py? siesel: No.. :( siesel: but the html isn't have the right result either... mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ok, pdf should work now. siesel: This time the html work... Strange... :( https://amtbmy.serveftp.org/dcmwai/test.html Action: dcmwai at last open it https server to the other side... does pdf work for you now? updating cvs Action: dcmwai think he own siesel something :) dcmwai: no, I just edited pdf.py for you. siesel: Oh... you edit my pdf.py :) haha I've to go and get it there I'm at the office :) amtbmy.serveftp.org :) nvm I'll get it there. but later.. :) Need to have dinner, they wouldn't let me have it after 8 minutes more.. :( Action: dcmwai is away: Dinner, Let get food and Go home :) dcmwai: html not working at your home was connected with a missing textEncoding=utf-8 in gnue.conf [common] section dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel: Ah.. that Action: dcmwai is back (gone 00:16:05) dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel: may I ask what did you change on the pdf.py? is that the font path 'ZenKai-Medium' : 'zh_TW/TrueType/bkai00mp.ttf' Or this line f/win 20 ww just do a "cvs diff pdf.py" to get all changes. I set self.font='ZenKai-Medium' and changed both fontbase path as the path to the font itself siesel: It don't really work here, see https://amtbmy.serveftp.org/dcmwai/test.pdf but the html work. I'll add some debugging code to the pdf creation tonight. siesel: ok Thank fo all the thing you have done :) Action: siesel has to run now. cu cu no problem. siesel: bye siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-195-208.netcologne.de) left irc: "Client exiting" Action: dcmwai have to go back home... :) dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.173.165) left irc: "Client exiting" reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: SachaAway -> SachaS Nick change: btami -> btami-away Nick change: btami-away -> btami chillywi1ly (danielb@CPE-24-167-193-166.wi.rr.com) got netsplit. ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port30.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) got netsplit. 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ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. yay common, forms, designer, and reports have made it into sarge appserver and navigator have entered sid long live jbailey :) and reinhard too !!! btami: well, i think it will still take some time until gnue is distributed along with windows, like it's now distributed along with debian gnu/linux ;-) bbl Nick change: reinhard -> rm-away thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hello hello thierry hi btami Nick change: wtg -> wtg`sleep derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. hmmm novell bought suse Nick change: rm-away -> reinhard jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey: did you notice that common, forms, reports and designer made it into testing today? I hadn't, actually. =) lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Nice! http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=jbailey@nisa.net btw i *think* * #171528 (gnue-reports) should be fixed in 0.1.3 and i'm quite certain #171533 is fixed As in you'll require it, or won't require it? =) mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. well python-xmlbase is certainly required IMHO because the report definitions are xml :) no completely other way around there is no python-xmlbase at all for python 2.3 :) Ah, lovely. =) python2.1-xml did depend on python2.1-xmlbase Wow.. There's a gnue-reports manpage. It's ugly, but it's there. but python2.3-xml doesn't depend on *-xmlbase yes it's ugly :) wrt #171535 - IIRC a sample.report-filters.conf gets installed with gnue-common so not sure if we should consider this bug fixed, too yes, there is a sample.report-filters.conf in gnue-common That's not what he wants. He wants it to run the wizard to setup all of the global gnue options at install time. ok There's a bit of disagreement between me and the rest of #gnuenterprise on the right way for this to happen. =) *lol* we will work it out :) I'm sure. =) The gist of it is that while I don't mind supporting a global configuration, that gnue itself should support both that and a ~/.gnuenterprise type of setup. If the sysadmin doesn't set one up globally, then it should cope and step the user through setting up a private setup. gnue supports 3 levels of config files system wide changeable $HOME/.gnue system wide fixed Eh? What would system wide fixed be? gnue settings the sysadmin absolutely did not want users overriding Ah, okay. i created this to mirror how pine does it Action: jbailey waits for the bold of lightning as jamest mentions pine in relation to GNU softare. the em bubble from all the equipment/monitors arround me makes an excellent sheild But that's lovely. Is that new? I don't remember that it was that way when we argued about it last. *lol* um i think i did that years ago Ah, nice. there is no wizard to setup but I think it's ok with a missing systemwide file The windows installer provides a lovely GUI for setting these up. Will that be ported to Linux sometime? It is okay with it now. --> VeganCheesesteak (~VeganChee@199.254.234.82) has joined #php yeesh, must be a friend of jbailey's.. ;) if that thing in windows is via inno then I doubt it as that is written in delphi IIRC Action: jbailey pukes. Did Btami write that, then? i haven't seen it Really? I thoguth you had a Windows Lan you were using this on. but if it is an extension to Inno (which creates the setup.exe). Inno is written in delphi i have not installed the last release of gnue on windows yet i'm still running 0.5.1 i need to jbailey: if i was curious, how would i find out why gnue-common is uninstallable on hurd-i386 ? Two ways. First you could ask me: And I'd tell you taht python 2.3 isn't built. well then i could continue recursively :) Aside from that, hmm. qa doesn't cover hurd-i386. So that's about the only way, it seems. =) is there an automatic build process for hurd-i386 ? or do the hurd porters have to upload all packages manually? Sort of. There's a buildd under my desk ehre. It's not turned on at the moment. =) :) in http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=jbailey@nisa.net "uninstallable" means there is no deb for that architecture, or for one of the dependencies. right? I think so. Mmm. Yeah, sounds right. =) wendall911 (~wendallc@198.31.172.218) joined #gnuenterprise. and i thought gnue was a pain to co from cvs Action: jamest has been cvs co openbsd for 1.5 hours now heh.. why openbsd? its sekure! Action: Vee just recalls that recently published testing of the various bsds and linux 2.4, 2.6 seems like openbsd was the dog of the bunch firewall and a bastion machine they seem to be big on using m0n0wall at work and an ndis machine i use ipcop at one location i just like having a real box for my firewall here at math yea.. and i think openbsd really is the most secure *bsd/linux variant out there I was just curious. how's the game thing going? slow a client is sucking 110% of my free time driving me nuts the same one? ... that you've been working with what seems to be a fair amount of intensity for at least the past several months? :) yes they hope to have major new system enhancements deployed by 1/1/04 Action: jamest just laughs at them they don't seem to figure out that laughter == "no way in hell" I have to go into the office in a bit for a meeting about a project that went from 04/01/04 to 12/01/03 whoa that's like 99 years Action: jamest dcc's Vee some depends figure you might need these ;) at least I know nobody's going to be mentioning java at this meeting.. I guess I should try to find and hack this last bug in the thing I've been working on.. Action: Vee toodles off to never never land.. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Client Quit thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection hi hi mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-192-25.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. hi hi ajmitch: cool, you're around. is it difficult to provide the pnet source files too? Or commit your /debian changes to cvs? not difficult at all, they're downloadable right beside the binary packages ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" The bad program ('pnetpython') needs some libraries which aren't provided by pnet-dev, so I have to build everthing myself :( what libraries? libffi.a and libgc.a I'll check they I haven't missed them hm Action: ajmitch runs off to check ok, my bad the Makefile tries to load them from the build directory, so it's probably a common error if you installed pnet-interpreter they'll be in /usr/lib/pnet the makefile was a quick hack :) I just find .so files. Are the static libraries there too? sorry, searched in the wrong dir. I found the files. :) Action: ajmitch ought to fix that asap Ok, now I just have to fix all the compile errors :( doesn't surprise me that was written many months ago btw. can you provide a pnet-doc too? hmm ok there used to be one, I'm sure :) mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [55]gnue-appserver -- GNU Enterprise Application Server. * [56]gnue-navigator -- GNU Enterprise Navigator. woohoo.. neat to see that in DWN yes ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard: do you have a minute? yes I've read your mail and want to ask how we should split up the work. That was more than a minute. siesel: as announced i won't have much time during november and the same goes for johannes so if my mail makes sense for you and also for mdupont mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. you might want to talk to him as you would be the main actors Action: siesel is happy that reinhard had the time to write that mail :) mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: wtg`sleep -> wtg jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jason word whrirrred :whirred: _w3rd_ :-o weird. DLJ (Fred@199.243.96.246) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection Have I joined? Looks like maybe yes. Hoderr folks! nah, it's all in your imagination DLJ: You are now one with the GNUe. w00t Hoderr, chillywilly, dtm. What an imagination I have! who's Hoderr? ;P You derr. I'm here. it's a beautiful thing thank God fwiw, I'm an accountant, wondering if there's anything useful I can do around GNUe. DLJ: no thanks, sorry all full up now. you can go home HEH no more room for any volunteers! this free software train is PACKED DLJ: can you help em do my taxes? ;) me* bah, don't believe dtm he lies DLJ: what did you have in mind? are you a software engineer or project manager or what? i fib because i love. he's an accountant don't you pay attention ? yeah i didn't know how multifunctional he may be http://www.libertyetech.com/sensenbrenner.jpg typical politician answer ;) ye chillywi1ly: well, how nice! chillywi1ly: yeah but it indicates the process of thought! chillywi1ly: he regurgitated a highly succinct explanation chillywi1ly: doesn't that indicate that he at least understands the issue? yea I guess it's not all bad ;P yeah. why is he ethically prohibited? i mean, i dont know what you wrote to him about. I'm an or what. Libertytech turns into cranenucleaer. What's that all about? your exhuberance is most inspiring DLJ: ?! DLJ: uh? DLJ: was that a sentence? :) When I try your libertytech URL it instantly turns into something else, I think it was www.crannuclear.com/sensenbrenner... dtm: I signed some petition online that would mail your congress critters iirc oh. hehehe DLJ: cause you for got the 'e' libertyetech.com some day when I a rich I will buy let.com fromt he squatters NOT they can rot in hell ;) Gotcha. What's the legislation he refers to in the letter? it was regarding the SCO case and their attacks on Linux SCO v. IBM Never had a hell of a lot of use for Wisconsin Republicans meself... jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client exiting" Action: chillywi1ly lives in WI I know the SCO thing (a replay of UDL vs Berkeley back in the 1980's: Berkeley won. UDL, i.e. ATT lost -- as humiliatingly as SCO is gonna lose. But what is the legislation Sensenbrenner refers to? litigation not legislation Geez I'm dyslexic tonight!! he cannot do anything about it (DUH) that wasn't why I wrote to him anyway I assume you were bringing him up to speed on how badly SCO sucks... yes I don't really remember what that was from just that I had signed some letter and it sends it out to your congress people ;P My line on the whole mess is that there's a minor tragedy involved: Neither SCO nor McBride will end up with enough assets left to compensate the SCO shareholders after their shareholder suits for the mismanagement that destroyes their shareholdings... That's the e that was missing from the original Libertyetech... jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. at least he responded so that's cool hi jeff The Autopen, a robot for forging signatures has been in use by Congress since roughly the time of the Black Death. Heya Dan. Hoderr jbailey. What does 'hoderr' mean? hello. hell there ohell rot-1 or some goody crap ;) goofy* DLJ: It does not appear to be auto-generated I remember Goofy from my childhood. Mickey asked him to take down a message in Morse code, and Goofy did so. This sheet has the dots and this page is the dashes." unless a crap load of people mailed him about SCO jamest (~jamest@ppp-66-142-211-135.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. then at least he knows about it...I don't expect any miracles or anything like that That's the wonderful thing about the autopen: it's a genuine pen, moving in three-D space. All hardware, not an electron in the whole kludge. hi jamest howdy whatever dude, you need help and unfortunately this is NOT the right place for that ;) bunch of crazies here I tell ya ;) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client exiting" night all reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Don't believe in miracles -- rely on them." btw, I know the deep dark secret of the autopen...but it's just for lazy people not wanting to sign everytime he still might've read my letter ;) might have! oh man DLJ: do politicians seriously use an autopen?! noooooo AFIK Most Congresscritters do. I've never seen the thing any place else. :< say it aint so bah, what does that matter? so they don't wanna sign everytime...big deal i wonder how much mail they get anyway a LOT I bet] s/]// indeed. jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client exiting" jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. DLJ (Fred@199.243.96.246) left irc: ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" Nick change: SachaS -> SachaAway jamest (~jamest@ppp-66-142-211-135.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jamest (~jamest@adsl-65-71-168-190.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wendall911 (~wendallc@198.31.172.218) left irc: "Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.173.165) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel: ??? you are awake at this time? poor siesel, hunted relentlessly :) ajmitch: I didn't hunt siesel :) ajmitch: How is things going? Nice and easy? things are going ok dcmwai: what is arias status hello derek :) derek: which part do you want to know. s/./?