hmm... latest upgrade to psycopg seem's to have broked things Setting up python2.2-psycopg (1.1.10-1) ... Setting up python2.3-psycopg (1.1.10-1) ... ... ------------------------------------------------------------ Error: No database driver found for provider type 'psycopg' ------------------------------------------------------------ heh Setting up python-psycopg (1.1.10-1) ... hmmph.. still broked :) Action: dcmwai don't use psycopg :) hmm.. popy's broked too? (differently) ... DB000: File "/usr/src/cvs/gnue/gnue-common/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/datasources/drivers/postgresql/popy/Driver.py", line 64, in _loadNextRecord DB000: dict[string.lower(self._fieldNames[i])] = f DB000: NameError: global name 'string' is not defined aha.. pygresql works.. heh haha :) bear (~bear@219.95.175.43) left irc: "Leaving" R45 (~r45@cuscon1770.tstt.net.tt) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning heya btami hi R45 (~r45@cuscon1770.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. mdupont (mdupont@p5080ECC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) christoph (~christoph@200.207.127.10) joined #gnuenterprise. pretty pictures made by nickr: http://nick.industrialmeats.com/proj/art/cubes/cube-fractal-test8.jpg http://nick.industrialmeats.com/proj/art/cubes/cube-fractal-test8-yaf.jpg nickr does some fun stuff yeah. blender3D mdupont (mdupont@p5080EBA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #gnuenterprise. mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) joined #gnuenterprise. LuftHans: thanks for your cafod link it summarizes all important about apt i'v read before in different places, and later always forgot so, i'v saved it now can you guys help me in another issue? i have an old 486, 32M ram and want to turn it to a firewall btami: glad you found it helpful btami: get gshield btami: google for it I'm thinking Derek might be right and it should be upgrade rather than dist-upgrade, though i'v read about devil linux, but the box can't boot from cd Action: btami reading gshield... it seems gshield needs an installed distro can i install debin with 32M ram? debian gshield needs a distro, yeah btami btami: i would think you could install anything in 32MB ok and if that system cna't boot a CD then you're kinda stuck with that or floppy. btami: sure or maybe a floppy that boots a CD. or a separate bootable interface card if you want to be a masochist you can get debian on a 386 with a whopping 6 MB of RAM a friend just did that a couple of weeks ago :) no, i'm not a msochist :) dtm: is there a way to make a floppy that boots a cd? btami: initrd would btami: or a multistage floppy booter based on initr hmm, is there a docs to read how to do this? sure, tons and tons i'd bet there's something at tldp.org or in /usr/src/linux/Documentation i've had extensive experience with initrd and i believe i learned it all from there and from distro examples. i wouldn't do any of that though. i'd install a normal OS to the hard drive. ok Action: btami trying to install debian first Nick change: btami -> btami_installer siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-209-180.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. morning good morning moin reinhard hi siesel hi hi reinhard, mdupont, dtm hi hi hi hi's all around. so today i hope to get some rest. (and get a first model generated) reinhard, mdupont: Do you have any ideas how to design the trigger namespace? siesel: i am working on an atomic transaction model it it have an oo namspace with subcomponents like gnue.ar.account.amount when a account is booked siesel: the bad thing is i don't actually know how namespaces work in python at all :-( you need to trigger the select event you can use the rdf namspace, it has full python itegration and a proof engine reinhard: (almost) Anything is doable. We just have to think what looks better thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mdupont: so we need something more than modules and classes? siesel: for security reasons it might make sense to not provide a global namespace or only a very limited one as nowadays we could do a gnue-ar-account.amount morning all morning thierry siesel: that would work most procedures might get along with "self" and all the properties of self hi guten morgen reinhard, siesel bonjour thierry! reinhard: I think that we should have a global namespaces, but with security messures. so a "gnue_securitylevel" could be another field in gnue_procedure mdupont: what is the rdf namespace? reinhard: i agree about the security of a global namespace siesel: you can use the python rd fmodule for full namespace, prefixing and uri handling that will provide you with a global database that is stored in rdf optionally in a sql database of all the configuration data dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) joined #gnuenterprise. I don't think that it makes sense that a object just can access its own methods. security is important, but IMHO global namespace access is no problem, as it is just the global trigger namespace, which would be the access to the other modules and classes, but not the access to the global namespace of gnue_appserver it might come out that access to the current "session" is enough and we could do that as "self.session" but of course also as a "golbal" variable "session" 2 42 :) the global trigger namespace would IMHO just be a way to use our session interface, it would mean that the call "print address.person[gnue_id].name" is transalated to print load(session_id, gnue_id, ["name"] ...)[0] what about the [gnue_id] part is one way to allow access to different instances of a class, but there will probably be better ways. hmmm i was hoping that someday things like # i am a method of an invoice object print self.customer.name would work where invoice.customer is a reference property to person yes, that should work. i guess most procedures won't want to access objects that aren't *somehow* referenced from self jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client exiting" if you use "self" it would mean, that you access the current instance of object class of self um yes but how is access to another instance done? about the reference thing: That should be possible. But IMHO shouldn't be the only method to access data from other objects mostly it will be done by references from self and we will need some access to a session like in appserver/src/language/Session.py and can do things like session.find (...) reinhard: I would prefer to do a address.person[gnue_id] instead of a session.find('address.person', gnue_id) and session.new ("address_person") i don't think you will have the gnue_id in practical cases we don't have to use the gnue_id. There are other possibilties yeah, but then you will need some kind of "find" procedure like doing a address.person.find( condition). where you can give conditions i don't see the big difference between address_person.find (condition) and session.find ("address_person", condition) except that the first one will probably be much harder to implement and will (AFAICT) mean that every method must have in its namespace _all_ classes that are defined (remember that with SAP we would have 8000 classes or something like that :-)) and also we should consider that procedures will have to run in a separate process but this all is just spontaneous thoughts without thinking it through completely so i might be wrong as wll well I'll invest some more thoughts it it. but I think that programming convinience is very important for procedures, as it should be easy to write and easy to understand by reading the code yes i agree on that point and a additional "session" IMHO isn't needed when we could do a simple "find" instead bbl cooking lunch Nick change: reinhard -> rm-away siesel (jan@xdsl-213-196-209-180.netcologne.de) left irc: "Client exiting" siesel (~jan@xdsl-213-196-209-180.netcologne.de) joined #gnuenterprise. dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) left irc: "÷ÙÛÅÌ ÉÚ XChat" Nick change: rm-away -> reinhard thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) thierry (~thierry@musashi.xtensive.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Fred_Frog (~fredfrog@199.243.96.249) joined #gnuenterprise. Hoderr all. Fred_Frog: herrew Wazzup? I'm on for another day of plowing through the GNUe docs -- and learning Python. Fred_Frog: right on. i'm on for another day of plowing through the interchange docs and learning how to make a database schema. Interchange? For that matter, database? Interchange. Database. is there something more specific you'd like to know? interchange is an ecommerce and CMS based app server. it uses a database, and i'm learning how my physical products best match its schema. it default schema, anyway. ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. DTM Just for interest, what are your products? And what's CMS? cms == content mgmt system UI templating and database interaction. application-based dynamic web site building. These are "physical"? :-) i'm sorry..? a CMS is software. You said your "physical products" above... and i use interchange (IC) to sell physical products. my current store is of the country primitive art and home accents market Sorry, I thought you were saying your products were UI templating, and dnamic web-sire building. the next store is a technoprimitive art gallery well yeah, *MY* products are that. but the rest are my clients' products :) That sounds like a hell of a lot more fun. more fun than what Art gallery sounds like more fun that hacking web sites. dyaaahh. the art gallery is a web site! :) hee hee it's all art, dewd. that's what it all boils down to. Yeah. And everything is software. Or the whole universe is a "Art is what you can get away with." -- Marshall McLuhan. christoph (~christoph@200.207.127.10) left #gnuenterprise. hehe Back to work. ttyl. while we're quoting on a tangent, i'll paraphrase "good artists borrow and great artists steal" Fred_Frog: later Was that Picasso? i think so. i heard it via Steve Jos Jobs Lemme see ow: Jobs borrowed it from Woz. Woz stole it from Picasso, right? i never heard of Woz saying it but I would definately not doubt that. Just making the distinction between good and great artists of microcomputers. :-) Well. 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I'm converting a mysql schema to pgsql, am I correct in understanding that the UNSIGNED (for integers) and BINARY (for varchars) keywords are either not supported or not necessary in pgsql? not necessary at least lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) dsmith (cmifoufwqk@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1f-100.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (cmifoufwqk@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1f-100.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: Client Quit dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) left irc: "÷ÙÛÅÌ ÉÚ XChat" icltlfatppl (~icltlfatp@157.22.13.232) joined #gnuenterprise. mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-193-166.wi.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" chillywilly (danielb@CPE-24-167-193-166.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater, em mind I ask some thing about gnue-report? ? jcater, I'm trying to write a grd files... I found that there is man dts* is that a pre-defined name? s/man/many mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. those are datasources I usually name my datasources as dts* just for consistency jcater, Oh so it can be anything :) yes somemore.. for html and xml out put there are some "dtd" or "css" included Where is this set/define? jbailey (~jbailey@atlas.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. is it not inline? I don't recall how that worked jcater, haha :) nvm, will search for it :) wendall911: http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php dsmith: ty :) wendall911: np. dsmith: i didn't encounter that problem again...I did the exact same steps as before too, no corruption in the db this time though dsmith: it is an older hard drive 15 gig, maybe it has some bad clusters I didn't catch wendall911: Yeah, you gotta be careful with old hw. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: "Later..." lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) wendall911: I think you can turn on read-after-write verification in Linux. It's slow as hell, but protects against dying harddrives. Does appserver run as a daemon, or just a service loaded by forms? I'm wondering where scheduled database work should take place - Like, should cronjobs be setup, or is there a way to say "This stored procedure should run every night with the following arguments" jbailey: i'm using reiserfs and turned that off this time, i did not before...i can't be sure if it is a hardware problem until I test. My daughter did a hard reboot during the day...she like pressing buttons ;) that may have corrupted it Ahahah. Most journaling filesystems shouldn't get eaten during a hard boot, but I've never used reiserfs. fwiw a while ago i had currupted /var/lib/dpkg/status a lot of times until i found out that i have bad ram jbailey: appserver will run as a daemon jbailey: i've not had a problem before, but that file is fairly large...stranger things have happened. I tried alien, it works well, btw. I now have a problem with a circular dependency between spellplib and spellgtklib siesel already announced that he wants to work on the init.d scripts and all that hmm wondering how I can install a lib with apt-get and force it to not remove other libs...those two should be able to co-exist peacefully if they are the same soname they can't exist peacefully nickr: they are different then they should'nt conflicgt nickr: that's why i'm confused about apt-get thinking they conflict, each install removes the other which two libs? do you always speak in vagueries? Action: wendall911 checks for specifics anyway, does anyone kjnow if theres a way to make the parent of an object ... log every method call that occurs? nickr: which language? do you always speak in vagueries? reinhard: oh, python of course ;-) SCNR libgtkspell0 and libpspell4 lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) joined #gnuenterprise. lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.39) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) there is an explicit conflicts probably meaning they can't exist together for some reason, maybe datafiles or something nickr: i have them coexisting on this box...infact this app uses them both ;) erm How nice for you. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr: it is just that the new deb box I have doesn't like the idea oh hm it seems like libgtkspell0 depends on libaspell15 on closer examination its not an explicit confilct icltlfatppl (~icltlfatp@157.22.13.232) left irc: "Client Exiting" and libaspell15 provides a file libpspell.so yea so it might be that aspell and pspell are not compatible or aspell is meant to emulate pspell or something like that i see, that makes sense the really cool thing about debian is that you really have a chance to figure this out while in other distros you probably would be lost at all reinhard: agreed, it is very nice reinhard: init.d scripts shouldn't be provided by the package - They're very distro centric. jbailey: also, distro version centric Yes, exactly right. a tarball with different init.d scripts for everything as it gets added would be very nice ;) jbailey: it could be that he actually meant to contribute a init.d script for debian sarge :-) btw i was watching toy story yesterday (from video with kids) and i was wondering what the next release after sarge will be named I don't even know which part of the cabal decides that. i think it's not long until debian runs out of release names :) I suspect when we run out, we'll either hold a GR, or move onto other pixar films. It's the two simplest solutions. tinc maybe someday they start with nemo or like that what is a GR? nickr: Yes, of course. =) reinhard: General Resolution. who is tinc? reinhard: dict tinc jbailey: ? the way Hollywood works, there will be several more versions of Toy Story. Heck in a couple years, they'll probably be on Toy Story V reinhard: dict is a unix dictionary lookup. tinc is in there. =) oh so it would be apt-get install dict; dict tinc :-) just did that *lol* Yes. =) Sorry, most English as a second language people I know use dict all the time to figure out what the hell the rest of us are talking about. =) i just learned that dict exists at all but i already like it :) its incredibly useful There's a gnome dictionary applet that I leave in my panel. jbailey: i use that as well, very nice hi reinhard Nick change: mdupont -> md-dinner dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: "Later..." Fred_Frog (~fredfrog@199.243.96.249) left irc: " »¡« Scøøp Script 2003 »!« pegue o seu! Grátis em " dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.212.4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.59.250) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: "Later..." dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.59.250) left irc: Remote closed the connection reinhard (~reinhard@M1264P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it." dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: "Later..." dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. nickr (nick@e-64-35-146-235.empnet.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) nickr (nick@64.35.146.235) joined #gnuenterprise. can anybody tell me what a sources.list line for unstable might look like. There are a hundred references to what line to add. I can't find one sample of what the line might look like don't I have one in cafod? it's the same as lines for stable and testing, but has unstable rather than those 2 words that's the general case. your mirror could have a weird setup, I guess... LuftHans: cool, it has the word main afterwards, I had a question as to whether that would cause a problem unstable has main like any other dist. ok, ty guys...Debian docs in general lack examples, so I'm never 100% sure of things wendall911: i hear that. wendall911: yeah, I wish most man pages had examples, procmailex rocks :) LuftHans: by far, most do! even mplayer's! dtm: I guess quite a few have examples, but far fewer examples than they should have yeah. it is getting more common in man files...with newer releases, i find myself reading the top line for syntax, then bump to the bottom for working samples wendall911: yeah i've always done that. LuftHans: worked perfect, thanks except with stuff like 'route'. woof. dtm: the newest release of route actually has a couple examples that work meat s/meat/neat/ and of course the ones that you wonder what the network is like that they would actually work on yeah. Yeah, the route manpage has always been confusing And route is one of those commands that is everywhere, but is *different* everywhere. Fred_Frog (Dudy@199.243.96.234) joined #gnuenterprise. Hoderr all. Back to the grind. Fred_Frog: are you the one that was wanting to work on docs? Action: Vee is just trying to recall who that was.. No, wanted to read the docs. I understand that "working on the docs" consists of re-inking the rubber stamp that says "TODO"... heh.. someone came in here recently with a strong desire to document.. I think they went thataway... Action: wendall911 is perplexed by people with strong desires to document sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. bully (~chatzilla@pD9EBA3F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #gnuenterprise. hi is here someon i can tolk to in German about GNUe ? fredfrog (~fredfrog@199.243.96.249) joined #gnuenterprise. bully: yes, please wait. :) sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Action: dsmith envisions dtm downloading a German language module, matrix style "Sprechenzie Deutsch, Tank. .....bzzZzt..... We're in." its not bad dtm ;-) oh really? i guessed at the spelling! :) bully: it's because my ancestors are German. dtm: i have a question about the appServer can you give me information about ? bully: md-dinner knows German but I dont know if he's an appserver expert bully: i dont know the appserver. siesel is german, right? bully: wait for siesel! can you told what tho job of the server is ok bully_ (~chatzilla@pD9EBA4C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #gnuenterprise. bully_ (~chatzilla@pD9EBA4C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection mouns (mouns@kali.mouns.org) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) joined #gnuenterprise. bully (~chatzilla@pD9EBA3F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) bully_ (~chatzilla@pD9EBA74B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #gnuenterprise. 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" Fred_Frog (Dudy@199.243.96.234) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) dsmith (~dsmith@mail.actron.com) left irc: "Later..." jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client exiting" ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) joined #gnuenterprise. _ (www-data@209.234.155.8) joined #gnuenterprise. _ (www-data@209.234.155.8) left #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. steve_b (~steveb@218-101-13-17.paradise.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. steve_b (~steveb@218-101-13-17.paradise.net.nz) left #gnuenterprise. steve_b (~steveb@218-101-13-17.paradise.net.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. steve_b (~steveb@218-101-13-17.paradise.net.nz) left #gnuenterprise. "As fast as an elk? Is that some kind of Canadian measure of velocity? Can you get a speeding ticket for going 2 elks in a school zone? What is the speed of light in elks?" -- slashdot "Zero. Elks are opaque." -- slashdot dtm: do you know if there is a Debian tarball available that has the basic environment setup for doing installs using Knoppix? you use dbootstrap nickr: why is that...seems silly nickr: just a basic environment with apt-get should be sufficient, pardon my ignorance because the basic environment changes constantly so you haeve a tool to build that environment rather than the environment itself nickr: ok, that makes sense also its the same mechanism the installer uses jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client exiting" ToyMan (~stuq@user-0cevdks.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Client Exiting" jbailey (~jbailey@CPE00062579efac-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) HAPPY 26TH BIRTHDAY CHILLWILLY everybody get on dayspring.com or yahoo greetings and send a card to danielb@libertyetech.com or be destroyed. CHILLYWILLY IS AS OLD AS STAR WARS, VOYAGER 1, AND ME AND NICKR (each. not combined) Indeed, Happy Birthday Chillywilly Dan's a Scorpio? =) mcuria (~maxy@29-185-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) joined #gnuenterprise. dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.175.43) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@CPE00062579efac-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client exiting" dsmith (lap6mhvur1@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1f-100.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wtg (~merlinx@ppp191-221.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Cluelessness:- There Are No Stupid Questions, But There Are A Lot Of Inquisitive Idiots." wt (~merlinx@ppp191-221.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) joined #gnuenterprise. ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port14.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) ajmitch (~ajmitch@wlg1-port14.jetstart.maxnet.co.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. --- Tue Nov 11 2003