<dtm> ok so do i need module-init-tools 0.9.15 or 3.0-pre?
<jbailey> for?
<dtm> yes, for.
Action: dtm seeks module-init-tools RPM for kernel 2.6
<jbailey> jbailey@outpost:~$ dpkg -l module-init-tools
<jbailey> ii  module-init-to 3.0-pre5-1     tools for managing Linux kernel modules
<jbailey> Looks like 3.0-pre is working on my 2.6 system, anyway.
<dtm> k
<jbailey> I don't know off hand if it's a prerequisite.
<dtm> yeah module-init-tools is
<dtm> ok i think i found it
<jbailey> No, I mena the 3.x version.
<dtm> yeah it's optional
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<thierry_> afternoon gnuers
<lupo__> hi
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<jemfinch|lambda> MySQL and PostgreSQL and SQLite have TEXT fields for arbitrary-length case-insensitive fields.  What are such fields called in Oracle does anyone know?
<jcater> long
<jcater> err, but no case-insensitivity though
<jcater> and they have limitations
<jemfinch|lambda> jcater: Someone told me it's "CLOB" but are there any aliases for that?
<jemfinch|lambda> basically, what I'm trying to find out is which databases support "TEXT" to be a large text field.
<jcater> well, I feel like an old fogie
<jcater> didn't know they'd introduced clobs in oracle
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<btami> hi all
<btami> is this a known bug with intro.gfd ?
<btami> DB000:   File "/home/tamas/svn/trunk/gnue-common/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFObjects/GFField.py", line 263, in setValue
<btami> DB000:     if self._block.mode == 'query':
<btami> DB000: AttributeError: GFField instance has no attribute '_block'
<btami> t
<btami> just updated svn
<jcater> that's weird
<jcater> but I'm seeing it too
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<dneighbo> jbailey: you really here?
Action: dneighbo has a debian packaging question for you :)
<dneighbo> fairly simple policy question i suspect
<jbailey> Sure, whats up?
<dneighbo> libpango
<dneighbo> currently 1.2 is in testing and unstable
<dneighbo> 1.3 has been out for a while
<dneighbo> a pango developer recently switched to debian
<dneighbo> he is wanting do know what policy is
<dneighbo> technically 1.3 is a "unstable" pango
<dneighbo> i dont know is it common for say 1.3 to replace 1.2 in unstable
<dneighbo> or would they wait until 1.4
<dneighbo> im thinking it makes sense to wait until 1.4
<jbailey> No - unstable is for things that are on the track to get into a release.
<dneighbo> and that if they wanted a 1.3
<dneighbo> it should be libpango-snapshot
<jbailey> You might find 1.3 in 'experimental', but the rules are that nothing in unstable should be built against packages in experimental.
<jbailey> Also, because pango is a critical part of gnome infrastructure, it's uploads and such might fall under some extra rules.
<dneighbo> that is what i was thinking... would be very hard to do a -snapshot type thing
<dneighbo> as it depends on so much other gnome goodness
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<jbailey> Yup.
<jbailey> And generally, who would care?
<jbailey> Anyone developping against such things is probably needing a whole bunch of other things packaged, in which case they probalby want to put it all in experimental anyway.
<dneighbo> true dat
<dneighbo> thanks
Action: dneighbo was on right line
<dneighbo> just wanted to get a more official party line
<dneighbo> and didnt really know where to look online
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