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Nick change: ajmitch_ -> ajmitch hoehn (~hoehn@pD9E0A675.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. hi all, someone in here? hi the project doesn't seem to be very alive ;-) it is, just moving a little slow at the moment :) mailing lists are quiet development is in subversion now, not cvs The mailinglist archives cannot be accessed at all (permission denied) that's odd I wonder whether gnuenterprise is ready for use in real life? yeah, it's being used in real life How would you start? I cannot see the templates mentioned in the introductory paper hmm? what introductory paper is this? hoehn: what OS are you on? GNU Enterprise: An Introduction for Developers Gentoo Linux hoehn: no emerge script currently, you can build it though, all the forms tools are available hoehn: When I get time, i'll put it in the Portage tree wendall911: I thought about the rpm's with the paket manager installed? Do you recommend the stable ones or should I give the nightly snapshots a try? hoehn: ajmitch can answer that better than I can. I can? Action: ajmitch hides I didn't know there were nightly snapshots.. There are some on the download page ;-) But they are from CVS, which you said is not used any longer hoehn: yeah switched to svn ah ok when you talked about rpm, I thought you meant packages.. so these snapshots are not the current ones possibly not Action: ajmitch hasn't had much to do with gnue lately :) hoehn: I've only played with gnue on a deb box. I use gentoo as well, so I haven't built it. When I do, I'll have a portage script for sure I do not really need a script, I guess I can manually install it How can get the current version from svn? Action: wendall911 isn't sure hoehn: if you drop in a bit later, the lead devs will be around unless reinhard is on right now I will stay tuned :-) is the "general ledger" already implemented? chillywilly nickr: ping ping hoehn: as far as I know, most of the development is in the app server and forms clients lately at least so what can gnue already do for me? I'm not the best person to ask for sure hoehn: the forms designer is very far along What does the forms designer do? hoehn: for designing gui input interfaces for data gnue is already good for building 2-tier apps hoehn: and a bunch of other things... jamest is the best person to ask about the designer i'd guess how can I work with that data, for example accounting? 3-tier is on the way, AFAIK, Appserver will provide middle tier designer is good for building basic gui but i prefer handcoding trickier stuff kilo: but then I could do a qt application with QT designer, which already know ;-) hoehn: In theory, you will be able to use any accounting app, so long as you can get it to talk to the app server you could. there are several ways, you choose. when appserver is ready, it will bang i'm sure is QT available under windows too? gnuenterprise right now is a "very comfortable database frontend", is that correct? kilo: yes it is, but I work on linux. thanks, i didnt know kilo: but I guess there is no "free" version well well hoehn: that is my understanding, I've played with it a bit and that was my impression wendall911: I thought, there already is some business logic :-( there is. only basic logic kilo: what does baisc logic mean? kilo: /baisc/basic/ look at GNUe SBE hoehn: the devs will be around in a bit, I'll stop before i have to eat my words. ;) GNUe SBE??? hoehn: it is a project using gnue gnue is only the pieces and parts, sbe is a working model Action: wendall911 isn't sure what stage it is at where can I find gnue sbe in the www? http://www.gnu.org/software/gnue-sb/ quick answer ;-) :) That's what I was looking for, I guess I will give that one a try oh, i was late wih the www address When this is in place I can see how GNUe works and start my own "business" with gnue is a tool. The requested URL /cvs.backups/gnue-sb.tar.gz was not found on this server :-((( when you put a picture on the wall, you dont pay much attention to the ladder it is the picture, the wall and you that count hoehn: The project looks fairly inactive. However, jcarter and Vee2d2 are devs, they will be around later hihihi jcaRter kilo: I knew that, but in the papers they always talk about templates and packages which do not yet exist kilo: but you will need them, as long as you do not want to do a lot of coding hoehn: I think that is related to the cvs disaster at savannah.org if there are no packages, the appserver is very much like jboss, which I already know very well perhaps I need to use that for my app? get a working copy of GNUe SVN there is a 'packages' directory in it, look at that and you will find lots of interesting things there gnue-packages directory damn, it takes a long time to render 12,000 images with GD :) johannesV (~johannes@M1561P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "working" hoehn: http://www.gnuenterprise.org/downloads/hourly/gnue-svn-current.tar.gz johannesV (~johannes@M1554P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. 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Appserver's implementation is cleaner and better from day to day :) reinhard, johannesV: what are you're future plan's? ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel: siesel: getting closer to 0.0.6 brb phone :( :) I'm currently trying to create a form for creating class repositories ... (actually replacing GNUe_ClassRepository.gfd) back our plans are 1. what johannesV said 2. build the per-session cache 3. make a tool to create .gsd files from the class repository (currently we have a function that does 3., but not an end user tool) 4. test 5. test 6. release 0.0.6 err of course 5a. fix bugs ;-) exactly :) ToyMan (~stuq@smtp.dstoys.com) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). ok. IMHO No. 2 is important for performance. well let me put it that way without 2. procedures in appserver are not usable neither performance wise nor logic wise if x.address_name == "foo" and you do x.address_name = "bar" print x.address_name" I saw johannes removed the Object.store command. you will get "foo" instead of bar err forget what i said, that's no longer true siesel: yes __setattr__ calls store implicitly every assignment *must* directly be passed into appserver's cache 2. is important because we don't want to access the db 4-5 times in only ONE procedure :) so that subsequent accesses to that property return the new value siesel: yes siesel: for johannesV, starting appserver takes about 5 minutes or so what? (he uses a db on my server over dsl line) you have to buy him a faster computer ;) ok, so not depending on his machine :) no it's good we do it this way because so we can easily see if we have inefficient db access (what we have now ;-)) hmmm, probably we should make our caching configurable. in what way? There are two setting which I both like, but which are quite opposite. 1. Webapp like: store almost everything in the database. Even session identifiers should be there. In this case appserver could be stopped and restarted without interrupting sessions. Action: reinhard shudders 2. Appserver centric. Have a session-based and a global cache. Data is just written to the database in case of commit/rollback/cache overflow. or f.e. every X seconds ok gotcha can we put 1. to post-0.0.6? :) lol Both are extrems, and I don't think that we have to go "webapp like" now. I even don't know if it makes sense to store sessions over appserver restarts havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) "1." is more stability centered while "2." is IMHO the thing we need now. i.e. a way to minimize traffic between appserver and the database havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel: agree johannesV: what's your opinion? havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection i agree too cool. (i'm trying to create a functioning drop-down, but this seems to be too much for forms at the moment ... :( havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. you use designer, or do you directly change the code? well, I've tried with designer, but this code (gfd) won't work hmmm, I'll look for a working example. the field-spec: using this in an entry results in a request of a property "aModule" in the class repository .... I think this has never worked with appserver ... just with db :) strange yes, strange :) johannesV: wouldn't it be field="gnue_module"? the field name in the gnue_class "table"? reinhard: don't think so, cause I gave these in the fk_* members btw, I've tried to change ... which results in a traceback of GForm lol not really knowing what we are talking about anyway just from a first view, i was missing the information which field in the actual table should be connected with the dropdown reinhard: I am trying to create a dropdown-list of all modules available in gnue_modules table in which column should it be stored? johannesV: yes, and you want to connect that dropdownlist to a column of the gnue_class table, yes? correct... to gnue_module reinhard is right. it should be field="gnue_module" so i'm missing "gnue_module" in the field spec but, gnue_module is given as "fk_key" ? no fk_key is gnue_id ? (at least you wrote that) ups right ahh, I see ... let me try it's the key in the foreign table ok, now I get an AttributeError: GFEntry instance has no attribute '_displayHandler' so this was my fault -- I haven't told to which property in gnue_class the key of the dropdown should be connected you have to add 'style="dropdown"' to the entry or, if you have that GFForm is broken again :) I'm using cvs head of gnue-forms assuring :) Action: siesel has problems with static datasources so can't test now :( reinhard: of course, that doesn't necessarily mean anything as of course I fix bugs that affect me jcater: so do we ;-) but that doesn't mean you aren't hitting another bug :( jcater: what is the history of gnue-common/src/cursing ? started off as nstti a separate project but that guy abandoned it so we added to gnue-common I was in the process of making it use "frames" (I can't think of better word) so windows would be stackable windows=panels, etc then I got detoured is that what you're asking? I've defined style="dropdown" hoehn (~hoehn@pD9E0A675.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4" jcater: yes jcater: would it be worth continuing? jcater: or better rebuild something else from scratch? Action: reinhard wants a curses forms frontend reinhard: I think there's a lot there I'll try to look at it later today to refresh my memory on what's left jcarter,siesel: the typecast="string" in my .gfd-file causes the traceback mentioned if i remove it the forms comes up is there a typecast="string" ? yes, designer has created all field definitions with a typecast-member I think the typecast is set to gnue_property.gnue_type (seems so) jcarter: how do I create a visible tab in a form? then pages become tabs wow, thanks ! dimas (~dimas@195.218.177.46) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) + tmsg = _("The database driver '%s' doesn't have a 'Connection' object.\n"+\ + "It has to be updated to the new driver API. --- "+\ + "Please contact a gnue developer.") % driver may i state officially herewith that i'm *not* a gnue developer? ;-) ok, probably the wording is not correct. I'll change it to CORE developer ;) how can i tell a dropdown to re-read it's contents from the database? IOW can i tell the dropdown to re-read from the database every time it is dropped? i think the whole core, active, maintainer stucture is fscked up I *think* it's fk_refresh="change" or maybe fk_refresh="commit" as I'm a co-maintainer and haven't done much on gnue in quite a while i'm not sure but does derek do anything either? if it were up to me we'd do away with the seperations to reflect reality, those that code make the calls wel well what calls? :) welll meaning you guys are building appserver right it's not like I'm directing it, or maintaining anthing in regards to it most new features at least in forms, designer, reports have been needs based so if jcater is working on something we might discuss in here if its a major change or we might not same with btami, siesel, and anyone else commiting code so the whole "core" and "co-maintainer" titles are for the most part BS IMHO we're all developers sure the only reason why we call you "maintainer" is to make clear that it's *your* job to argue with rms :) i feel having them discounts the contributors that are more active sigh is that why no one will take it from me Action: jamest has tried :) lol jamest: even though you don't write as much actual code as you did before it's still your vision gnue is built upon you are the bill gates of gnue ;-) Action: reinhard hides IMHO core or not-core has been important for the outside world only, so droping or keeping doesn't effect the development process. apart from that the amount of effort one can put into gnue changes over time people come and go like arno, anybody ever heard again of him? s/of/from/ true sigh reinhard: so what do you think: should we keep this distinction or not. f.e. say core developer i.e. working on gnue > 4 years so I'm stuck for now and it seems unofficially co-maintainer == scapegoat at least I know my place :) O_o i actually don't care how i'm called I think everyone should call me Bob call me core developer, developer, coder, or whatever jcater: okay, Bob. as long as you don't revert my commits, i don't care :) Nick change: siesel -> siesel_shopping grigora (~grigora@pcp04400587pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: np bob Anybody seen Bob today? reinhard: np code grunt what about bob!? grigora (~grigora@pcp04400587pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) left #gnuenterprise. Nick change: siesel_shopping -> siesel btw. how can I add a script to XCHAT executed on login? jamest_ (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. siesel: in the server list there is an additional commands section jamest_ (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Client Quit sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. megatux (~chrisg@22.pchl5.xdsl.nauticom.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@dragonfly.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~tamas@wrr.napnet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. grigora (~grigora@pcp04400587pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) joined #gnuenterprise. kilo (~kg_kilo@fw.i-trade.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. doesn't python having no braces to line up drive you guys nuts cause you have code that is off by a couple spaces and int he wrong blovk and get some weird things happening No chillywilly: I use tabs for my indents. well mod_python was whining at me about not returning an interger fromt eh handler and it is because the code was formatted wrong I usually set them to 8 characters so I can clearly see that. guess emacs is no freakin' help I suppose that is a good idea ;P Also, I don't use GNU-coding style braces (my openning braces are at the end fo a line in C), so they never line up anyway. =) heh, wdhat an odd thing to say Action: dsmith cheers jbailey for his intelligent brace style Python assumes a tab is 8 spaces Action: jcater cringes at the thought of tabs what do you do jcater ? Your indent and how many spaces a tab is are unrelated. 2 spaces hmmm, yea that's what I have too emacs removes tabs for you in python-mode :) I suppose I will know better if I get this weird behavior again siesel (~jan@xdsl-213-196-209-103.netcologne.de) left irc: "l8r" it'd be cool if emacs python mode coloured each indent level differently it'd be much easier to read then nickr: very flipped out all it'd have to do is colour the whitespace before the line differently so you could quickly scan the code that'd rock :) nickr: You would need a different face for each indent level. nickr: makefile-mode does something similar. jcater: The nice thing about tabs is that everyone gets to decide their own indent about. no Also, I find at 2am, I jump up from 8 spaces to 12 so that I can see it even more clearly. my way is the only way dammit :) chillywilly: Will you please troutslap jcater? I'm fresh out. Action: dsmith shakes his head at people that don't "get it" with tabs. What's the deal with the gnue-common setup script? It doesn't seem to install any libs. I vote for jcater's way Action: chillywilly troutslaps everyone else megatux: what do you mean? bow to da REAL gnue masta megatux: setup.py --install I'm trying to mess with the CVS.. err.. SVN stuff the generated setup-root.sh from setup-cvs.py doesn't install libraries jbailey: the problem i see with tabs is something like the following won't look good after you change the tab lenght: foo = 15 + (bar * (frobnicate.frobnicate.frobnicate.baz \ + freaky_long_variable) * something_else \ * another_thing) Yes, that's true. Two solutions to that are to either only use one tab anyway and use an editor that can smartly match ()'s, or (my prefered) use a couple temporaries to hold the values and make the resulting equation a bit easier to read. The optimiser should always eliminate the temporary anyway. jbailey: agree about the second solution johannesV (~johannes@M1554P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left #gnuenterprise ("Client Exiting"). however, if we have for example a function call with 5 or 6 parameters, it's often not doable in a single line For me, code that takes 5 or 6 arguments are usually an indication that I'm organising my data poorly. It happens occasionally, though. setup.py complains "ImportError: No module named distutils.core" the version from 0.5.2 and SVN megatux: what python version? 2.3 debian? yeah please install python-dev wendall911 (~wendallc@216.255.199.8) left irc: "Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" wendall911 (~wendallc@216.255.199.8) joined #gnuenterprise. ahh crap.. I thought that was installed. doh! jbailey: actually, I couldn't agree more :) Action: reinhard goes to look at his own code jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left irc: "Kopete 0.8.0 RC1 : http://kopete.kde.org" dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) left irc: Remote closed the connection dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) joined #gnuenterprise. does anyone know why mxDateTime is not part of Python? I ask myself the same question frequently obviously it's stable enought that GNUe depends on it, right? yeah a lot of python programs depend on it thanks is it true that GNUe-Forms is currently only functional in Windows? hell no what reinhard said good :) this would be absurd now that I have it installed, how canI use it? like if word would only be functional on mac :) good analogy dropdown triggers are only func in windows 8-)) that's fine, I just need to see what the Forms look like I have so far installed GNUe-Common and GNUe-FOrms havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jamest (foobar@adsl-208-191-39-44.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. James! jcater confessed his fondness for sheep earlier. I thought you should know. oh that poor chap James or Jason? =) jbailey: i'm confused you mean he said sheep and not goats? Yeah, it was weird. weird?! that's sick! agreed I realise in the heat of the moment it might not be hard to tell the difference. But still... well, we should cut him some slack he's not feeling week so is probably hopped up on some wicked drugs s/week/this week/ Not feeling? not feeling well well sorry So, I guess he's not the only one then? =) i'm doing my best to have woody|mozilla make me it's bitch at the moment so far i got the japanese school outfit, high heals, lipstick i think fishnet stockings are next Action: ajmitch closes eyes & sings LALALA no more, please jbailey: you're wise in the ways of all things debian jamest: I dunno, you seem to be crawling into a corner best left unexplored. wtf would cause mozilla, and only mozilla, to print boxes instead of fonts hmmm everything else on the system prints fine EIther your default font in Moz is different than eveyrthing else, or you're using a different rendering engine for that than everything else. jbailey: you want me to send updated gnue-designer & gnue-forms-wxgtk packages to you to close the wxpython depends bug? it print previews fine in mozilla ajmitch: Yup! And if you could update gnue's svn that would be appreciated. I haven't bothered to get setup to access it. ok damokles (~damokle@pD954DF56.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. Hi all want me to put my address in the changelog, and make it 0.5.2-2 then? :) hi damokles hi jamest. ajmitch: Yes. =) ok Then email me the .diff file, signed and I will rebuild it. sure megatux (~chrisg@22.pchl5.xdsl.nauticom.net) left irc: "leaving" kilo (~kg_kilo@fw.i-trade.hu) left irc: dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) left irc: "home Home!" damokles (~damokle@pD954DF56.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jbailey: for now, I'll leave the maintainer field set to you, unless you want it otherwise :) Action: ajmitch is also in the middle of breakfast :) I'd prefer it were you, since I'm basically just ignoring the bug reports. It will also help your NM. ok will change It's much easier for DAM and all that to put you in, when they can see you already maintaining stuff. ugh used vim, went to save.. ^X^C lol reminds me of myself always typing :q in evolution :-) btami (~tamas@wrr.napnet.hu) left irc: I'm just surprised that there weren't bug reports on gnue-forms :) Well... Someone would have to actually *use* it.. ;) heh dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) joined #gnuenterprise. dsmith (dsmith@207.170.141.100) left irc: Client Quit megatux (~chrisg@22.pchl5.xdsl.nauticom.net) joined #gnuenterprise. w00t! i can't put away the school dress! mozilla prints again The JS + XML-RPC based webfrontend is awful slow. Anyone know where the bottleneck is? megatux: you using cvs of appserver? yes then it's appserver the absence of a cache causes hundreds of db queries about metainformation i'm working on the cache as we speak meahwhile you might want to go back to 0.0.5 ok, cool.. just wondering since I'm new to it yo ppl which is the best postgres driver for python? mysql i'm using psycopg but it really just depents depends popy works well except for i thing i'm blanking on what psycopg looked really good that's what I was considering i think popy and pgsql are mergine merging grigora (~grigora@pcp04400587pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "sleeping" trunk/gnue r5071 jcater: playing around with curses again too cool uh oh, jcater's playing with the code again? Action: ajmitch wonders what to break next jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "home" jearl (~user@01-024.145.popsite.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) SachaS (~Sacha@dialup-196-070.conceptual.net.au) left irc: "Client exiting" night all reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody." jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@dragonfly.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client exiting" jearl (~user@01-024.145.popsite.net) left irc: "bye" havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. SachaS (~sacha@online.havanawave.com) joined #gnuenterprise. megatux (~chrisg@22.pchl5.xdsl.nauticom.net) left irc: "leaving" Nick change: dneighbo_ -> derek hello derek hu er hi fredrik_ (~fredrik@h184n5c1o1020.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection anyone know how stable svn is? (that sounds wierd :) jamest: why? what have you *done* to it?!?! nothing i need it for a production project i think it's a fine time to ask *that* question, seeing how you've raised it! were you ever really *there* for it, jamest? *were* you?! no when Subversion read its first book, were you there? when Subversion went to the prom, where were you? and *now* you wanna just waltz right into Subversion's life. no k i want to know how stable gnue in svn is well, yeah i have no idea. i've never even seen it. not svn itself :) well that's good because dont you *even* think about custody cool ugly little child it is anyway :-o Action: dtm covers Subversion's ears instead I think i'll crash for the nite :) k l8r l8r dawg jamest (foobar@adsl-208-191-39-44.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Kopete 0.8.0 RC1 : http://kopete.kde.org" lol nickr: hi so *this* is where you've been hiding jno it would seem, my dear Mr Nickr, that i have found you. and now... you must.....die. :-O naw, it's ok. you can live. it's cool. hey what's up dtm (~dtm@r1.txwifi.com) left irc: "Reconnecting" dtm (~dtm@r1.txwifi.com) joined #gnuenterprise. wendall911 (~wendallc@216.255.199.8) left irc: "Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "Client exiting" Decibel (Decibel@24-117-47-132.cpe.cableone.net) joined #gnuenterprise. 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