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Doubt that I can talk them into GNUe at this point anyway... but any features that I can show help. someon (~some1@h24-81-151-173.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: "Cannot read /dev/null" derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Connection timed out reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. johannesV (~johannes@M1560P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. holycow (~rtaylor@h24-86-228-102.vf.shawcable.net) joined #gnuenterprise. bddeb_afk (~bddebian@ip68-4-154-50.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "Client exiting" sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. btami (~btami@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. thierry_ (~thierry@AStrasbourg-251-1-1-7.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Client exiting" thierry (~thierry@AStrasbourg-251-1-1-7.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #gnuenterprise. hi gnuers hi thierry hello btami reinhard: you here? johannesV ? Action: holycow waves just for record: before making a new appserver+common release dbdrivers needs some more TLC jcater's splitting isn't tested with all drivers now oracle is broken some dbrivers import python modules in __init__.py, others in Connection.py so error handling is not consistent wow inkscape is cool holy moly btami: thanks btami: oracle is broken? IIRC jcater uses oracle himself reinhard: i was wrong, it's not broken just got confusing errors, when no cx/dc oracle installed btami: i'll see if i can talk jcater or siesel into looking at this probably i can't fix it myself because i don't know too much about the dbdriver system however if you could provide a patch i would happily commit it but i think best would be if jcater and siesel look at it however if it's ok for you i'd do the prerelease today nevertheless and hope things get fixed until the real release are you ok with that? OK, thx havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) havoc (~havoc@CPE-65-31-107-254.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "working" reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. holycow (~rtaylor@h24-86-228-102.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. lol targeted spam 35 Year old computer geek gets more action then his 25 year old body building roommate! HOW? Because the mind is the key to winning with women. Find out all his dirty little tricks here. They've found our weakness! rofl btw i think(hope) svn shouldn't bomb anymore made a change yday dsmith (xkuiefft6r@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1f-100.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. cool btami (~btami@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Remote closed the connection thierry (~thierry@AStrasbourg-251-1-1-7.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) ok prereleases are out cool! what all is being prereleased? common and appserver i think there hasn't been too much change in forms, designer, and reports? not much that I know fo but I've been up to my ass in java lately paying work :) so what is state of appserver now i see a huge number of commits going that direction which is cool let me put it that way after the final 0.0.6 release, we will write the first application using appserver for use in production and see how we survive with that WOW cool! That *is* impressive. A real app. :) Action: dsmith claps for the gnue team um im impressed jamest is able to take java up the ass personally not that the advances in appserver arent great, but its not every day you get to see "legal"/"paid" torture ;) hey now fwiw: i'm enjoying working on this app when I took it over it had 15000 to 16000 lines of code today it is approaching 9000 lines of code, and does a whole lot more stuff :) jamest: lol my goal is 8000 with comments jbailey (~jbailey@dragonfly.fundserv.com) joined #gnuenterprise. when appserver goes 0.6 will there be docs? there have always been docs ;-) jamest: You ask the craziest questions sometimes.. jbailey: you're not going to believe this reinhard is talking about writing a real app using gnue WHAT?!? That's erm... That's just carrying the joke a little far, isn't it? jamest: maybe you get so curious that you d/l appserver and try the samples ;-) I mean, it's one thing to claim that we can solve all the worlds problems. But to make a serious *attempt* at it is a bit much! *rofl* reinhard: i am curious it has a web interface right? well errrmm the web interface was at no point in time a priority for me or in the roadmap for appserver at all siesel just did it to fix his own needs now it seems to be the thing ppl like most about appserver :) well yes, there is a webfrontend, but i haven't even tried it, and i don't know how it works should probably try it someday ok, i'm to create a po system for my wife's department web based multi user so all the faculty in her dept can submit POs and she can track the stuff what with all my free time I was a good choice right? i'd love to figure out a way to gnue this puppy, and make it turn key maybe as far as a autoinstall CD as other depts on campus have expressed interest in it so I'm exporiing all the gnue options jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: i won't object if you want to try it jamest: however you might have to talk to siesel wrt webfrontend my primary focus was always using appserver with gnue-forms and gnue-reports as frontend (which of course works too, btw) jcater: the nightly svn checkout on ash seems to not have worked for 2 days now maybe you can have a look on your cron log and well good morning :) i'll diging for solutions right now i'm i've got to wrap up some other side projects but probably have to start getting serious in a week i have a need for a po solution as well for hospice svn: Operation not permitted svn: svn_io_set_file_read_write: failed to set file '.svn/entries' read-write Unable to svn update! wtf does that mean? ah bbl jcater: it means you're screwed. best rm -rf / the machine I get an error about unable to delete /proc you sure? ;) damn, your are really screwed best just get a boot cd and do a fresh install a fedora cd? lindows win4lin supports it and they don't support debian best stick with a distro that doesn't do things the debian way reinhard: should be working now jcater: thanks, worked I don't think svn honors the umask setting at the top of the file :( jcater: did you see btami's problems with error messages in the datasources system? no just for record: before making a new appserver+common release dbdrivers needs some more TLC jcater's splitting isn't tested with all drivers now oracle is broken some dbrivers import python modules in __init__.py, others in Connection.py so error handling is not consistent btami: thanks btami: oracle is broken? IIRC jcater uses oracle himself reinhard: i was wrong, it's not broken just got confusing errors, when no cx/dc oracle installed btami: i'll see if i can talk jcater or siesel into looking at this I really wish we could get a machine (possibly ash?) set up w/lots of databases well, probably not ash so we could test all the databases johannesV has set up interbase, postgresql, mysql and ms(eek)sql running in his network cool oracle is working though did johannesV send you an sql file? not that I know of ah ok he wanted to send you a test sql script that was generated by the new gnue-schema for oracle for testing ok bddebian (~bddebian@ip68-4-154-50.oc.oc.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wendall911 (~wendallc@wendallc.icehouse.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wendall911 (~wendallc@wendallc.icehouse.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection wendall911 (~wendallc@wendallc.icehouse.net) joined #gnuenterprise. wendall911 (~wendallc@wendallc.icehouse.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection wendall911 (~wendallc@wendallc.icehouse.net) joined #gnuenterprise. thierry (~thierry@AStrasbourg-251-1-1-7.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: dsmith -> dsmith-food Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) http://nslog.com/archives/imgs/singles_ad.jpg rofl rofl holycow (~rtaylor@24.86.228.102) joined #gnuenterprise. sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: dsmith-food -> dsmith holycow (~rtaylor@24.86.228.102) left irc: Remote closed the connection lol I don't get it he forgot the rest? hehe no read the last line and follow the instructions oh, yea I am lame Action: chillywilly is not good at following directions heh reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: "For each complex problem, there is a simple, understandable, obvious, and wrong solution." Nick change: bddebian -> bddeb_away holycow (~rtaylor@24.86.228.102) joined #gnuenterprise. kilo (~Kmetyko@fw.i-trade.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: dsmith -> dsmith-meeting anyone know of any decent open source fax softwrae that wikk run on winders? sorry open source/free ;P w/wikk/will/ or maybe how to setup a linux fax server with hylafax or something maybe that is a better solution I use hylafax/debian + whfc/WinXP ok what's whfc? kilo_ (~kilo@fw.i-trade.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. is that the builtin thing? kilo__ (~kilo@fw.i-trade.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. kilo (~Kmetyko@fw.i-trade.hu) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: nm, I googled it might just need to build a linus fax server linux kilo__ (~kilo@fw.i-trade.hu) left #gnuenterprise ("Leaving"). johannesV (~johannes@M1560P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Vee (~mike@66.182.192.34) left irc: Connection timed out Vee (~mike@66.182.192.34) joined #gnuenterprise. Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: what user/pass does whfc user? use unis shell account unix man hosts.hfaxd iirc hi it's been a long time since I set that up ok latest svn version of forms contains an error in uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py lines 92,94,96 revision 5139 is it is it = it is kilo_: what does it do? brb jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection bah ^faxserver@*$:21:s4TuuAVoH6XzI: shouldn't that allow user faxserver from anywhere with my pass? nothing, just seems like reinhar forgot to remove some comments reinhard jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. kilo_: sorry, back where was the error oh dear... and what's it doing? Action: ajmitch got out of bed far too late look at the code and it will become obvious what lines? i had to reboot uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py, line 92,94,96 [10:42:52] latest svn version of forms contains an error in uidrivers/wx/UIdriver.py [10:43:11] lines 92,94,96 [10:43:26] revision 5139 is it yeah, those :) anyone joining me tasting some fine single malt whisky? we have a daughter, born this morning Nice! Grats Kilo_! Welcome to endless sleepless nights =) congrats! :) kilo_: call me slow i don't see the issue line 92 is checkchars = string.letters it is like that here: @@8**re checkchars = string.letters gack! @@8**re it's got those @ symbols in the file? for letter in checkchars: and at line 96: @@8**re i'd be tempted to rm that file and svn up again as i had to svn up here before i looked at it to get to rev 5139 well, at least I have it like that so I assume the svn repository is good who knows what that means but seems too strnge to be a transmission error... Action: ajmitch svn ups deleted local copy and svn-d it again no error now btw jamest, do you remember why you chose to support a field-level post-change trigger on dropdowns? I would prefer if we had entry-level post-change trigger, because it is possible to change the displayed value of a dropdown several times 1 field can tie to more than one entry on same or different pages that is only reason off top of head I can think of but the field value should not change until we leave the dropdown and put focus on the next entry is this for changing other values based upon the dropdown value? Nick change: dsmith-meeting -> dsmith yes. or maybe changing controls like buttons, enabling/diabling them and so on. makes sense sigh i need a clone of jcater btw checkboxes can have similar effects too. if you check an option, some entries becoma visible to make slave away 19/7 jcater: the wife gives you 5hrs to sleep right? I'm not sure I follow that logic as the other options shouldn't be reflected until the "value" changes which is when the field changes otherwise your form is in an inconsistant state imho jcater: don't the input handlers only change value upon form next er field exit they should work ike that like jcater: can't provide good example now, as i am too tired but will try to explain tomorrow anyway, at least i was able to talk to james at last kilo_ (~kilo@fw.i-trade.hu) left #gnuenterprise ("Leaving"). dsmith (xkuiefft6r@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1f-100.clvhoh.adelphia.net) left irc: "Home!" jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) left #gnuenterprise ("Kopete 0.8.0 RC1 : http://kopete.kde.org"). ajmitch_ (~ajmitch@vodca.otago.ac.nz) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest (foobar@ppp-66-142-210-230.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jbailey (~jbailey@dragonfly.fundserv.com) left irc: "Client exiting" SachaS (~Sacha@CPE-144-136-244-81.wa.bigpond.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. sjc (~sjc@cpc2-seve3-4-0-cust112.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "sleeping" wendall911 (~wendallc@wendallc.icehouse.net) left #gnuenterprise. jamest (foobar@ppp-66-142-210-230.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Excess Flood jamest (foobar@ppp-66-142-210-230.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client exiting" jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jcater: if i provided the box would you or ncs provide the software? re: I really wish we could get a machine (possibly ash?) set up w/lots of databases well, probably not ash so we could test all the databases hi derek yeah, seems doable hi ajmitch_ jcater: let me see what i can do i might be able to work some magic with the vendors (ibm at least) i dont know about oracle chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-201-211.wi.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection gsoti_away (~gsoti@adsl-68-23-170-52.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) left #gnuenterprise. jamest (foobar@ppp-66-142-210-230.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection jamest (foobar@ppp-66-142-210-230.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) joined #gnuenterprise. chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-201-211.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. yo chillywilly hello ajmitch_ dneighbo_ (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. someon (~some1@h24-81-151-173.vf.shawcable.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dneighbo (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jamest: You still thinking of building a centralised PO Mgmt system? jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) left irc: "Client exiting" someone (~some1@h24-81-151-173.vf.shawcable.net) joined #gnuenterprise. someon (~some1@h24-81-151-173.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Nick change: someone -> someon someon: yes a simple one jamest: I have some design ideas that may (or may not) be useful for you in that... eg. Don't issue a PO when the Request is entered into the DB... wait until Approved before issuing PO# i'm still needing to get the specs for what they need hope to start next week More like a PO requisition kind of thing? Nods. **ALWAYS** a good plan it's to allow all the professors in the department to issue POs both internally and externally i don't know a lot about it, beyond its for my wife, so I have to do it :) Nods.. let them enter a request, as generally, Dept. Heads have to approve a PO before it can be issued. not in this case well, not always Nods, understandable it'll be an interesting project I'm sure No doubt. as the profs with huge grants can probably do pretty much what they please within the bounds of the grant what I like about it is that it's definately going to start simple Nods. as i think its replacing a paper system again, i'll know more next week Several of those same profs will have several research assistants. i've been on a deathline that expired last night and tonight was fix issues found in deployment so friday will be my first "free" night "free" nights are important too nite jamest (foobar@ppp-66-142-210-230.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: "Kopete 0.8.0 RC1 : http://kopete.kde.org" jbailey (~jbailey@CPE00062579efac-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #gnuenterprise. hi jeff Heya Andrew! I've got gnue stuff to send you, once I get home Isn't it after work on Friday there yet? just another build depends issue for forms, which was reported the other day yeah 5:40pm I didn't start until 12 ;) Ahahah see you all leaving australia in about 3 hours Coming to Canada? lol. going back to europe via hong kong gonna see if they have some electronic toys for big boys next time i log in i might log in with a zaurus ;) see you gtg bye SachaS (~Sacha@CPE-144-136-244-81.wa.bigpond.net.au) left #gnuenterprise ("Client exiting"). Nick change: bddeb_away -> bddeb_really_awa ajmitch_ (~ajmitch@vodca.otago.ac.nz) left irc: "Leaving" jbailey (~jbailey@CPE00062579efac-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Client exiting" Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Vee2d2 (~vin@c66.169.136.41.ts46v-07.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) joined #gnuenterprise. --- Fri Feb 20 2004