what would you want to do with the IrcLogPlugin? also, fwiw (I know I'll get asked) two main reasons I chose twiki over anything else (moin moin included) 1. It was in woody :) shfs is a little slow 2. It maintains revisions of all modified pages #2 was important to me in case at some point we do get some clown who hacks the pages? yeah geez, freakin' ls does not want to work also, 3. Twiki is used in some big name places (but thatnot to say moinmoin isn't) (but that's not to say moinmoin isn't) this it the wiki our lug uses: http://www.milwaukeelug.org I still have mixed feelings about a wiki TikiWiki but I'm tired of people saying "if only you had (xxxx) available, I'd contribute more (information/work)" it's PHP I think :-/ you guys see the search engine? Action: jcater spent most of the day getting that working I saw commits on the list http://www.gnuenterprise.org/demo/project/search.php searches the web pages, mailing lists, or the irc logs great I can't unmount the ssh crap bleh Action: chillywilly is using 2.6 though bleh mlug site doesn't work well in konqueror use firefox :) damnit I may have to reboot nite jcater (~jcater@cpe-066-061-071-147.midsouth.rr.com) left irc: "sleep" chillywilly (~danielb@24.167.201.211) left irc: "bleh" chillywilly (~danielb@CPE-24-167-201-211.wi.rr.com) joined #gnuenterprise. ah debian installer beat 3 was relaeased 2 days ago beta ,--8<- | * new easy to use partitioner that supports automatic partitioning and LVM | * grub as the default boot loader on i386 | * wireless networking support | * 2.4.25 kernel, with SATA support and security fixes | * support for the XFS filesystem | * support for these architectures: i386, ia64, sparc, m68k (mac), mips, alpha | * fully translated to 25 languages | * a boot logo (by Mark Riedesel) | * a draft installation manual `-->8- kick ass :P Action: chillywilly talks to himself hi chillmeister howdy so where can i get dat shit? Action: chillywilly is itching to try new debian installer http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-netinst.iso * wireless networking suppor? cool ok Action: M7U90nt pulls da iso Action: chillywilly does too good thing i got flatrate dsl! I have Road Runner oh cool. cabel is even better what upload speedz you et? upload sucks wth is it... 384kpbs download is ~3.5Mbit wow 27% [=========> ] 31,510,720 358.89K/s ETA 03:48 ;P hmmm 156KPS is wut I got and upload is like 24k KB? or bbps? erm, kbps wonder why there is a m68k port but no powerpc I so wanna get a powerbook I have an oldworld one that I got for free but I need a new one ;) Action: holycow recommends a debian certified lappie to willywilly :) wassat? is there such a beast? would be cool :) 08:53:55 (136.73 KB/s) total still going? shit man mine download is done already ;P no, that was done. the total about 9 minutes ugh I dl'd it in 1/3 of the time :P hehe well, U R 3* fasta! nothign wrong with 1MBit though :) still fast reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. Nick change: reinhard -> reinhard_ moin moin reinhard_ Nick change: reinhard_ -> reinhard moin btami (~btami@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. good morning hi snewpy (~markl@203-173-28-152.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #gnuenterprise. johannesV (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. morning all just reading this study derek mentioned on the mailing list didn't know this exists freakish the kind of stuff i drag us into no? btw: i actually met both of these researchers in person for a really interesting interview margaret and walt are both very interesting people doing some great research (imho) johannesV (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit johannes (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. johannes (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit johannesV (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. however johannes@Boston:~/prj/gnue-contrib$ svn update svn: Berkeley DB error while opening environment for filesystem /var/svn/gnue-contrib/db: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery it somehow hurts to see me as the example for a "moderate believe in free software" johannesV: try now please reinhard: same again reinhard: i havent read the study in a long time grrr i will have to go back and revisit that johannesV: jamest and jcater will have to fix that we will have to call you the "open source guy" johannesV: you can scp from london meanwhile /home/reinhard/projekte/gnue-contrib err /home/reinhard/prj/gnue-contrib can you try that svn command again? zimbo (~zimbo@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. hi zimbo hi btami derek: still the same error, I'll grab the stuff from reinhard's london meanwhile zimbo (~zimbo@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: Client Quit -rw-rwxr-- 1 jcater gnue 1048488 Mar 16 19:48 log.0000000002 -rwxrwxrwx 1 reinhard gnue 83631 Mar 17 01:43 log.0000000003 i think thats the problem kilo_ (~kilo@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) joined #gnuenterprise. and now zimbo is kilo again... hmm maybe not as gnue/ dir has similar perms on those log files and you are okay there So i was wondering, how hard is it to wrap an existing python program as an gnue server module? Does anyone have any examples of that or experience in such things? ash:/var/svn# svnadmin recover /var/svn/gnue-contrib/ Please wait; recovering the repository may take some time... Recovery completed. The latest repos revision is 22. ash:/var/svn# please try again derek: still the same permission error So i was wondering, how hard is it to wrap an existing python program as an gnue server module? Does anyone have any examples of that or experience in such things? |dcmwai| (~dcmwai@202.133.98.2) joined #gnuenterprise. <|dcmwai|> woo ;0 <|dcmwai|> boring.... So i was wondering, how hard is it to wrap an existing python program as an gnue server module? Does anyone have any examples of that or experience in such things? <|dcmwai|> M7U90nt, you seem to know much of python. |dcmwai|, i dont know it. but i like it. :) <|dcmwai|> haha i mean, i have been able to find my way through the code so far. just wondering if anyone has any experience whith dat <|dcmwai|> M7U90nt, maybe jcater will be the one.. <|dcmwai|> however, I think siesel is also involved in the server module write okiedokie danks M7U90nt (~mdupont@p5080F006.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection |dcmwai| (~dcmwai@202.133.98.2) left irc: Client Quit M7U90nt (~mdupont@pD9E26C80.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #gnuenterprise. holycow (~rtaylor@h24-86-227-162.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" snewpy (~markl@203-173-28-152.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" dneighbo (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #gnuenterprise. derek (~dneighbo@ip68-109-180-32.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) Sacha (~Sacha@194.209.50.178) joined #gnuenterprise. svn: Berkeley DB error while opening environment for filesystem /var/svn/gnue/db: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery t just tried update local gnue svn ? cu Sacha (~Sacha@194.209.50.178) left irc: "Leaving" btami: same for me what to do? i'm suggesting to create a new svnadmin group on ash with core developers in it than reinhard can run database recovery, what do you think ? I think that svn shouldn't eat itself as often as it seems to. Any idea why? btami: could be a good idea i think jcater/jamest and i would cover at least 20 out of 24 hours yes anyhow, this svn behavior is annoying it is reinhard for svn admin!!! reinhard: having worked on hungarian .po files we recently found that setup-cvs.py doesn't update gmo files but setup.py does update them is there a reason for this? no i thought that setup-cvs.py does also update them if it doesn't, it's probably a bug makefile is called differently in the tow setups tow=two would you repair it if svn awakes again? probably yes :) ok, thanks reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) reinhard (~reinhard@M1250P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. what if we had a password protected page that had a button for every repository called "restore " then clicking that button would recover the repository? that way multiple people could have the ability :) dsmith (w9re1p6zl5@oh-strongsvillecadent1-1f-100.clvhoh.adelphia.net) joined #gnuenterprise. dcmwai (~dcmwai@219.95.61.17) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jamest (~jamest@gw.math.ksu.edu) joined #gnuenterprise. sigh i create a moderated mailing list for internal department usage on Monday less than 48 hours later it's getting spam bounced good morning captain Nick change: reinhard -> scotty machine room to captain [08:03] Last message repeated 1 time(s). we have troubles with our svn engines Nick change: scotty -> reinhard kilo_ (~kilo@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Leaving" sigh spam and svn we have a much, much larger problem jamest@hobbes:~$ ssh www.gnuenterprise.org jamest@www.gnuenterprise.org's password: Connection to www.gnuenterprise.org closed by remote host. Connection to www.gnuenterprise.org closed. btami (~btami@ip102-205.ktv.tiszanet.hu) left irc: "Leaving" jamest: doh why do you guys have so many issues with svn? ;P my little ol' repositry has been working well chillywilly: you run multi-user? if so you have to wrapper the svn and svnserve commands, installing new debs wipes those wrappers but this is a login issue not an svn issue i wish i could host this machine locally sent a message to jade requesting local assistance with the box i imagine we're 2 hrs out before he'll get to work Action: jamest slaps dneighbo "wake up!" hmmm? why do you need to wrapper the commands? I use apache2 and ssl we use ssh i don't think apache2 was on woody johannesV (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) which ash ran till last night monday night johannesV (~johannes@M1558P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: compile it ;) yeah, in all my free time apache2 deb is supposed to be old anyway I need to compile it so I don't have to use 2 sitnking apaches bleh tyops suck ;) i don't compile stuff unless I'm forced to me either but I am using mod_python with all the cool stuff so keywords I need apache2 keywords? bleh, silly scripts jamest: you have a minute? i can try Action: reinhard wonders when people will start to answer "no" when he asks that ;-) i gave my users jabber what was I thinking :) lol input masks what is the current state? what is the planned route? ah well, i need them about 12 months ago i started a proposal for them Action: jamest digs we found 2 half-implemented input mask code chunks one in gnue-common/src/formatting and one in ... (johannesV: please can you help me?) :) i think it was in forms, something with GDisplayHandler displayHandler drives the output/uinput of forms there is some little crap in there that does simple things yeah however gnue-common/doc/technote/00010.txt is what i think i wrote some hardcoded m/d/y stuff and such if not me then someone w/ very similar idea it's run svn blame i wanted to make input masks more than just for input holycow (~rtaylor@h24-86-227-162.vf.shawcable.net) joined #gnuenterprise. so they could be used for data validation in backend programs (say sanity checking data from a flat file sent by a partner) ok what about the stuff in gnue-common/src/formatting? crap - *.gnu.org seems to be down... i think that stuff is used as well, maybe by reports input masks are a mess oh thanks for noting this i didn't notice ;-) lol i was hoping to hit them in the next few months as the local company moved that up to one of the #1 issues w/ their systems ok let me ask the question a little differently: however wifes PO system is higher priority than any paying customer :) what would be the best way to have a date *and* time entry in a form? can this be done now or do we have to change forms code? i think there is a date formatter in forms now that can do this fields currently have 3 attribs formatmask, inputmask, displaymask that IIRC displayHandler makes use of diging for sample sigh all I'm finding is a grd file that does it did I mention that masks are a mess? not sure :) jamest: as I see things GFDisplayHandler specifies some subclasses (NumberDisplayHandler, DateDisplayHandler, ...) which accepts input- and displaymasks in their constructors, but then never use this masks that's quite possible my brain hurts whenever I get input the displayhandler stuff so specifying a display- or inputmask on a doesn't do anything same applies to -tags (in .gfd files) opening py file Sacha (~Sacha@194.209.50.178) joined #gnuenterprise. sigh that does look like the date are hard coded ah crap crap crap crap reinhard: can you do me a favor maybe :) line 781 in that file GFDisplayHandler comment out that line and see if dropdowns return to sinity sanity let me try Action: jamest swore he removed that as it did break stuff no change lekma (~lekma@pauguste-5-82-67-200-175.fbx.proxad.net) joined #gnuenterprise. jamest: i think the question still is there what is the easiest way to get a date+time input in forms? Sacha (~Sacha@194.209.50.178) left irc: "Leaving" sorry, users right now, i'd put a 2 fields which sucks date (with date formatting) and text you could get fancy and put this stuff in unboudn fields then use a prequry trigger to assemble them and stick in a "real" database field jamest: you're right that sucks :) i know, i know like i said, i needed them about 12 months ago i got the 2 field thing from the form were i needed them :) jcater (~jason@w202.z065105010.mem-tn.dsl.cnc.net) joined #gnuenterprise. reinhard: look jcater! Action: jcater hides Action: jamest dives for cover sacraficing jcater to save his own skin lxf (~agus_tea@202.73.120.151) joined #gnuenterprise. [09:19:28 am] what is the easiest way to get a date+time input in forms? seems we still have the format hard coded in the display handler