*** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise *** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise @list jcater_: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, Python, Seen, Services, User, and Weather I dont think it'll show up there.. @search log Vee: supybot.directories.log, supybot.plugins.RawLogger, supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger, supybot.log.level, supybot.log.stdout, supybot.log.stdout.colorized, and supybot.log.timestampFormat cool @config supybot.plugins.ChannelLogger Vee: True sweet * jcater_ wonders how often it write sto the file it's still zero byte you can configure these kind of things, even load/reload/unload the plugins without restarting the bot, btw. ahh, yea, that came up yesterday.. it's buffering it right now. They're gonna make it configurable to flush more often though ok *** ogger has quit IRC *** ogger has joined #gnuenterprise reinhard: "gacvs --database mydatabase" returns with an error SachaS: thanks, will look reinhard: my mistake ... oh nevermind then :) will be back in about 30 minutes have one or two questions. Does anyone know how to mount a partition of a disk image? There are several partitions in the disk image. I've never seen a multipartition image Say you have hda{1,2,3} and you dd /dev/hda to a file. I want to mount what was hda2 hmm.. does that work? I would have guessed you'd needed to specify the partition *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise The problem is, the partition table on the disk is borked. So we copied it to another machine and are experimentiong with fixing the table. when a drive died last year.. ahh, see I got lucky and thankfully could access the parition table.. Now I'd like to mount one of those partitons to see if we got it right. in googling, I've seen some 'risky' suggestions to fdisk the drive, delete/recreate the paritions exactly as they're suppose to be and rewrite 'm to the drive.. I'm just using the image to experiment on. dsmith: any suggestions in man mount? Once we have sometign workign, then I'll operate on the real drive http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/linux_loopback.shtml THat looks interesting. I'm gofin to extract the partition with dd *** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise *** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise @load network jcater: The operation succeeded. @list network Vee: dns and whois @whois gnue.org Vee: gnue.org is client update prohibited; registered 24-Apr-2000 16:06:56 UTC, updated 27-Feb-2004 06:10:31 UTC, expires 24-Apr-2005 16:06:56 UTC. @help jcater: (help [] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. @list admin jcater: addcapability, channels, disable, enable, ignore, ignores, join, nick, part, removecapability, reportbug, and unignore @reportbug jcater: (reportbug ) -- Reports a bug to a private mailing list supybot-bugs. will be the subject of the email. The most recent 10 or so messages the bot receives will be sent in the body of the email. @reportbug if a config variable is entered as "Name: True", it causes an error; perhaps it should do a .strip() ? maybe at some point we could have a DCL plugin jcater: The operation succeeded. oops I misread that oh well, maybe they'll get the idea from the subject @reset @restart :) I'd pasted it into #supybot earier as well, so I'm thinking someone'll see it one way or the other @cpi @cpu @load System jcater: Error: No plugin System exists. @apropos re Vee: Admin ignore, Admin ignores, Admin removecapability, Admin unignore, Channel ignore, Channel ignores, Channel removecapability, Channel unignore, Config reload, Owner reload, more, register, removehostmask, reportbug, revision, setsecure, and unregister how do I restart him from here? why do you want to? what changed? reinhard: i try to add a module in appserver samples. sigh if you null out the timestamp format then instead of logging w/o a timestamp it doesn't log at all @search timestamp Vee: supybot.humanTimestampFormat and supybot.log.timestampFormat reinhard: I am not able to add a new module in the form gnue_module so I set the timestamp to be something simple @config supybot.humanTimestampFormat Vee: '%I:%M %p, %B %d, %Y' SachaS: let me try SachaS: you have current svn? @config supybot.log.timestampFormat Vee: '' reinhard: I do get an GFFormexception reinhard: yep current svn @config supybot.log.timestampFormat ' ' Vee: Error: You don't have the 'owner' capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. maybe Vee: I think that's another bug as it hasn't logged in an hour since I set the format to '' @config supybot.log.timestampFormat ' ' jcater: The operation succeeded. @config supybot.log.timestampFormat Vee: ' ' @flush jcater: The operation succeeded. ok that worked cool @load Debian jcater: The operation succeeded. @last --with bug Vee: Vee: I think that's another bug @help last Vee: (last [--{from,in,to,with,regexp}] ) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in and --to require a channel the message was sent to; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match. By default, the current channel is searched. @load Status jcater: The operation succeeded. @cpu jcater: I have taken 3.71 seconds of user time and 0.14 seconds of system time, for a total of 3.85 seconds of CPU time. My children have taken 0.00 seconds of user time and 0.00 seconds of system time for a total of 0.00 seconds of CPU time. Out of 5 spawned threads I have 1 active. I'm taking up 8512 kB of memory. @list python jcater: pydoc and zen @list pydoc jcater: Error: No such plugin 'pydoc' exists. @help pydoc jcater: (pydoc ) -- Returns the __doc__ string for a given Python function. @pydoc os.path.isfile jcater: Test whether a path is a regular file @help zen jcater: (zen takes no arguments) -- Returns one of the zen of Python statements. @zen jcater: Simple is better than complex. @zen jcater: Now is better than never. @config list python Vee: Error: 'supybot.python' is not a valid configuration variable. @config python list Vee: Error: You don't have the 'owner' capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. @load scheduler jcater: The operation succeeded. @list scheduler jcater: add, list, remove, and repeat @help add jcater: (add ) -- Schedules the command string to run seconds in the future. For example, 'schedule add [seconds 30m] "echo [cpu]"' will schedule the command "cpu" to be sent to the channel the schedule add command was given in (with no prefixed nick, a consequence of using echo). @help repeat jcater: (repeat ) -- Schedules the command to run every seconds, starting now (i.e., the command runs now, and every seconds thereafter). is a name by which the command can be unscheduled. @repeat flush 120 flush jcater: The operation succeeded. ahh, nice workaround. :) does it remember @ commands after a restart like my @loads or do I need to add those to my .conf pretty sure it rewrites the conf periodically or when you quit it *** dsmith has quit IRC jcater: The operation succeeded. bah heh well, that's gonna such suck @search reply Vee: supybot.reply.oneToOne, supybot.reply.whenNotCommand, supybot.reply.detailedErrors, supybot.reply.errorInPrivate, supybot.reply.noCapabilityError, supybot.reply.withPrivateNotice, supybot.reply.withNickPrefix, supybot.reply.whenAddressedByNick, supybot.reply.whenNotAddressed, and supybot.reply.requireChannelCommandsToBeSentInChannel @search schedule Vee: supybot.plugins.scheduler @search repeat Vee: There were no matching configuration variables. @search succeed Vee: There were no matching configuration variables. jcater: The operation succeeded. @remove flush jcater: The operation succeeded. @load RootWarner jcater: The operation succeeded. @config RootWarner jcater: Error: 'supybot.RootWarner' is not a valid configuration variable. @config RootWarner.kick jcater: Error: 'supybot.RootWarner.kick' is not a valid configuration variable. @config plugins.RootWarner.kick jcater: False @load Todo jcater: The operation succeeded. @load Notes jcater: Error: No plugin Notes exists. @load Note jcater: The operation succeeded. *** dsmith has joined #gnuenterprise @load News jcater: The operation succeeded. oops sorry y'all just realized I can /query bigbrother and the commands still work :) :) what?' /query? oooo cool if I do that @repeat flush 60 flush this means we won't get to listen in on you and big bro babbling on and on ? inside a /query then it doesn't say "Operation succeeded" every 60 seconds to everyone eles jamest: bite me neat jcater: The operation failed @babelize english german This is fun @babelize english german This is fun jcater: This is bath health erholungsort? lol hmm interesting translatiojn ah oops @translate english german This is fun jcater: Dieses ist Spaß i know youre having fun and all lalala * jcater covers his ears but didn't we at one time quote fields durring datasource -> sql translation? ? @translate en [randomlanguage] welcome Vee: boa vinda i've got a bug report on a field named 5x7 um the field names from the forms debug dump show the field names not quoted hmm a lot of dbs won't let you quote them that's why we removed it, iirc i swore we did this for postgresql guess it needs to be db-specific who in the world names fields with a number? ok, i'm going to make them change field names um, my client's power user :) thwap him that's as bad as using spaces @ping pong my fav so far :) @routette @roulette jcater: *click* @binary jcater forgot they moved that to the filter plugin hmm I think this bot will work this is a good friday at work playing w/bots just need some popcorn and mt dew, and I'd be set @list Vee: Admin, Babelfish, BadWords, Channel, Config, Debian, Dunno, Fun, Google, Karma, Lookup, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Python, Quotes, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, Status, Todo, User, and Weather Http is real handy @load http jcater: The operation succeeded. @list http Vee: acronym, cyborg, doctype, extension, freshmeat, geekquote, headers, kernel, netcraft, pgpkey, size, stockquote, and title @list http jcater: acronym, cyborg, doctype, extension, freshmeat, geekquote, headers, kernel, netcraft, pgpkey, size, stockquote, and title junx! er jinks! @tockquote scox @stockquote scox jcater: The current price of SCOX is 8.50, as of 3:00pm EST. A change of -0.25 from the last business day. jcater: rofl hehe jcater: i was just about typing the same lol @stockquote rhat jcater: The current price of RHAT is 19.279, as of 3:00pm EST. A change of +0.409 from the last business day. OT : mdupont finally got a positive slashdot response http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=101050&cid=8613306 OT? off topic since when are we OnT? I like watching SCOX drop. It releives the monotony of the day. @search title Vee: There were no matching configuration variables. @search snarfer Vee: supybot.plugins.Google.groupsSnarfer, supybot.plugins.Google.searchSnarfer, and supybot.plugins.Python.aspnSnarfer @netcraft www.sco.com Vee: www.sco.com is running Apache on Linux. @acronym gnu Vee: Error: *** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise *** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise thanks irc logs are back in black? true dat named as *.YYY-MM-DD now so you can actually find a specific day now btami: ok, i'll now look at the interbase stuff reinhard: i correct myself maybe a general domain tag not the best idea, but how can i add a prolog for a .gsd for interbase scripter gnue_nullable smallint CHECK (gnue_nullable IN (0,1)), should be ok? for a NOT NULL boolean field? hmm I would add create domain boolean as integer check(value in(0,1)); you want to create a domain for boolean? er yes CHECK (gnue_nullable is not null and gnue_nullable IN (0,1)) yes at least you need to do that on oracle that's what i would ask btami: you could override startSchema from Base.py and there you should be able to do tableDef.header.append (whatever you like) that would be the first line before all CREATE TABLE lines i can do for you if you want please :) ok s/integer/smallint ok btami: committed, please test btami: btw, can you give me kilo's real name? Kmetykó Gábor thanks you can fin it in hu.po files Gábor is the family name, right? no ok :) :) aaaahhhhh now i get the "kilo" nickname :)) WORD! off to TV but ready for more bug reports in advertising breaks :) reinhard: thanks! extra extra read all about it : http://www.advogato.org/article/760.html ModMobbers in slashdot: it possible to supress information on the internet ? an example from dotgnu supressing bug reports is anyone running subversion older than 1.0 to commit changes to gnue? dunno * jamest is looking for something to blame would it let them? yes i think so tis a shame svnserve doesn't keep a log svnserver: whoops I did it again svnserver: goat.rape('/var/svn/gnue') last message repeated 7500 times btami: thanks for fixing the 2 typos so it's interbase that returns a mx.DateTimeDelta? yes time columns are a mess in different databases even for the different postgresql providers for a "time" column one returns a mx.DateTime value with the date of 1970-01-01 two return a string and one generates a traceback :) the traceback one is very original ;) i swear mxDateTime rounds 13:45:13.0123 becomes 13:45 and 13 seconds *** Vee has quit IRC jamest: of course the two with strings also have HH:MM:SS format but note that's for time fields time without date sigh it gets ugly night all *** btami has quit IRC we lost our binaries? the windows binaries? yes/ rpms too? i think btami didn't do them for 0.5.3 because forms are broken on windows sigh did we ever have rpms? i thought so I think users gave us urls to some they did but I don't think we ever had them ourselves i've got the green light from my wife to buy a HD tonight (could be wrong though) so I can do multiboot and write installl docs for things like suse should I create rpms for them if^H^Hwhen I get it running seriously we *need* people that do "porting" stuff what porting stuff? i mean we need to make prereleases then we need people that try these on different platforms one tries on win, other one tries on suse, etc. they tell us what issues they have and we can fix them i don't mind doing the multi install thing they can also write install docs as we did prereleases jamest: the problem is and it went something like you will have to do it for *every* release 1. make prerelease reinhard: but I think what he's trying to do 2. announce is get install docs for all these different OSs 3. listen to crickets chirp not necessarily support them forever 4. ask for people to test prerelease i.e., that was a lot of the problem on the mailing lists -- "What packages do I need on SuSE" 5. get bug reports against svn we frankly don't know 6. release 7. get reports of breakage in the tarballs I'm doing it for a couple reasons so I know step by step what we need to do on the platform so I can boot into it to help someone so i could create packages jamest: i agree that this should be done and it's great that you want to do it i'd make derek do it only concern i have is that you again "volunteer" for something but the punk ditched out on proofreading my docs this AM like he said so instead i'll make fun of him in IRC *** Vee has joined #gnuenterprise wait, how is that different than what I'd normally do *** Vee has quit IRC even though you know your time is very limited *** SachaS has quit IRC i very much agree that this has to be done but it would be something where we could greatly use volunteers /msg reinhard see the real reason is if i get it working jcater will say "neat" and set it up himself, then do all the work 5 times faster than I ever could i'm just wondering what the result would be if we sent a mail to gnue@gnu.org where we say "we see that our support for distros other than debian is bad" i'd be for that too and "we need volunteers to care for other distros" and maybe things like "be assured that all your problems will be fixed with highest priority" we need people for suse, mandrake, redhat like btami is for windows and good ol' neilt was for mac once of course this person should (IMHO) be IRC enabled I do think it's well worth the initial effort to create install HOWTOs though so maybe we can get some of those people up and running jcater: it *is* worth and get them hooked on GNUe but as i see from some mails on the list there are some people that already have gnue running on suse at least there are mails that i interpret this way indeed let me clarify i understand where you are coming from i'm not at all trying to talk you out of something you want to do i bought a pda to track my life since I can't do it in my head my gnue list is nice and long in there well my point of view is: jamest already gets too much sleep 6 hours last night! w00t! well, the multiboot thing is something i was doing for other projects too i just brought it up because of the missing binaries all right! who left all the spam in the approval queue but went ahead and cleared btami * jcater hides derek! * jamest was like viagra, toss, wiagra, toss, money, toss, sales, toss......um where's batmi *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** Vee has joined #gnuenterprise *** Vee has quit IRC *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise *** Vee has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has quit IRC *** kilo has quit IRC *** dsmith has quit IRC *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has left #gnuenterprise *** tessarakt has quit IRC *** wendall911 has quit IRC *** kingpin2k has joined #gnuenterprise anybody around? kingpin2k: sorta hehe...no problem...just stumbled onto this project it sounds fairly cool... kingpin2k: where are you from? live in Nashville, TN USA ok hold on, don't go away ok i'm just about going to bed ahhh UK? but there are quite some us people here they will notice you soon, i'm sure ;) kingpin2k: howdy no, austria (europe) nice to meet you hi jcater ok where might you be from? jcater takes over :) night Memphis night all ahhh cool *** reinhard has quit IRC g'nite *** SachaS has left #gnuenterprise jcater...are you actively developing on the project? yes which part? reports, forms, designer mainly gotcha...the financial package is the first thing that grabbed my attention, but it appears to be very early in the development process yes, unfortunately so the tools are quite a bit along but the financial stuff is not so lucky well I'd love to contribute wherever would be best I should probably start with the mail list there's been a lot of activity on that list this week and we welcome *all* help well...I'm new to python, but not C, C++ and definitely not SQL so, maybe I can be useful until the financial stuff takes off sorry...I'm doing several things at once not trying to ignore you if you know c or c++, python will be a piece of cake to pick up no problem...I'm in and out myself thanks...I'm going to go do some reading on the list archives c ya hello *** dneighbo has joined #gnuenterprise *** gsoti_away has joined #gnuenterprise *** derek has quit IRC *** jbailey has quit IRC *** jbailey has joined #gnuenterprise *** kingpin2k has quit IRC *** holycow has joined #gnuenterprise holy cow! mooo hiya gnuers! :D gnue'ers. The glotal stop is important. glotal? speak english damnit! :P Didn't you ever sing in a choir? =) I make my guitar sing :) hehehe Hmm. Should I go to the pub to catch a live band, or go to sleep? Tough call. pub and sleep! They kick you out of pubs here if you fall asleep in them. So your suggestion won't work. =) party hardy dude man I hate perl Why are you coding in Perl? =) Do we have to send you to mistress Caroline for a spanking? yes please :) *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** gsoti_away has left #gnuenterprise *** jbailey has quit IRC @ping pong @ping pong wow.. tie game! :) *** jamest has left #gnuenterprise @weather 38654 jcater: The current temperature in Olive Branch, Mississippi is 64°F. Conditions: Clear. @weather 76248 Vee2d2: The current temperature in Keller, Texas is 70°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. hmm I think I'll play w/the wiki next *** dony has joined #gnuenterprise