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<SachaS> morning
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<kilo> morning
<SachaS> hi kilo
<kilo> hi SachaS
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<kilo> anyone knows how to use csv datasources?
<reinhard> nope
<reinhard> bbl
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<btami> hi kilo
<kilo> hiii
<kilo> btami: how to use the csv driver?
<kilo> i would need to convert a csv file to interbase...
<btami> what's the problem with that?
<btami> my test was
<btami> [csv]
<btami> host = localhost
<btami> provider = csv
<btami> dbname = c:\home\proba.csv
<kilo> and in the code? oh wait, connection.gfd?
<btami> ?
<kilo> what code you use to connect and open a csv file
<btami> look at datasources.drivers.csv.csv.Connection.py
<btami> csv is a readonly dbdriver
<btami> with basic introspection
<btami> so you can use designer if the .csv first line is header
<btami> you have to use firstrowisheader=1 in connections.conf 
<btami> bbl
<kilo> lunch??? now??? 8-)))
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<jamest> anyone tested the release files?
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<btami> jamest: me
<jamest> everything ok?
<btami> the GRServer.grpc is missing from tarball, others OK
<jamest> so we'll need to recreate reports then eh?
* btami thinks nobody uses reports-server yet
<btami> don't think so
<jamest> if that's the case then we can probably leave out
<btami> if one will complain, i will send the missing file him :)
<jamest> :)
<jcater> reports-server shouldn't even be mentioned anywhere
<jcater> as reports is standalone-only atm
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<btami> i think the report-server script is working, jan/dcmwai used it before from php
<SachaS> is there a last minute travel agency in the usa ?
<jamest> SachaS: ?
<SachaS> i might need a one way ticked from usa back to europe
<SachaS> a cheap one ;)
<jamest> ah
<btami> jamest: can you try the new .exe files, they are going to downloads/releases right now
<jamest> btami: yes
<btami> hmm, the .exe files appears under the .deb section too
<btami> jamest: thx
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<SachaS> jamest: do you know of "the one" online last minute service in the usa?
<jamest> no
<jamest> er, SachaS no
<SachaS> ok. thanks.
<jamest> working for the state we have contracted vendors
<SachaS> :)
<SachaS> and in your private life?
<SachaS> :)
<jamest> i have a wife that takes care of it for me :)
<jamest> not that we travel much
<SachaS> :) ok. thought you know something
<SachaS> thanks anyway
<jamest> let me ask someone though
<jamest> just a sec
<SachaS> thanks mate
<jamest> i hope
<jamest> still waiting for a reply from their "just a sec" to me :)
<jamest> btami: downloading now
<jamest> SachaS: the reply "the largest airfare search engine is www.qixo.com they seem to have really good rates"
<jamest> i guess it search 28 other sites at a time or something
<jamest> btami: are the exe's still self contained
<jamest> or do I need to install dependencies like common for forms
<btami> there is a GNUe-Runtime-Environment you have to install first
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<jamest> ok, downloading
<btami> then you have to install GNUe-Common and GNUe-Forms etc.
<SachaS> ok. thanks jamest
<Vee> @weather ubon ratchathani
<bigbrother> Vee: The current temperature in Ubon Ratchathani, Thailand is 88°F.  Conditions: Mostly Clear.  Humidity: 83%.  Wind: SSW at 12 mph (19 km/h).
* johannesV_ is away: shopping
<jamest> btami: still working on it
<jamest> the users are a bit thick today
<btami> ok
<jamest> odd
<jamest> the laptop crashed during common install
<btami> you mean .exe ?
<jamest> yes
<btami> :(
<jamest> at 100% of the bar filled
<jamest> ah
<jamest> it just came out of it
<jamest> might be my antivirus software giving it the once over
<jamest> as forms is doing it too
<jamest> no activity on the HD, just sets there
<jamest> forms works (font is a bit small)
<btami> sigh
<jamest> win98se
<jamest> designer works, looks fine
<jamest> appserver and reports installed
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<_florin_> hi
<jamest> hi
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<btami> bbl
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<burtj> jcater: do you remember if the changes that were made for the datasource stuff we were working on is in the current releases on the site, or still in svn?
<burtj> I need to install it on a different box
<burtj> Also, all of the deb files in the download section are exe types.  That makes dpkg unhappy
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<jcater> should be in the latest release
<burtj> thanks!
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<burtj> greetings
<burtj> I just downloaded and untared the current release of gnue-reports, and there doesn't seem to be an INSTALL file explaining the installation, nor is there a setup.py file.  Am I missing something?
<burtj> also, the download was only 226K, it seems like it should be much larger
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<kilo_> hi btami
<btami> hi kilo_
<btami> how goes the csv ?
<kilo_> had to give up, as i had to go to the mechanics
<kilo_> some strange noise came out of the car's front left part
<btami> no suprise :)
<kilo_> no it was not a cat...
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<btami> any conclusion? (from mechanics)
<kilo_> well, dont know the english couterpart of 'lengőkar' and 'gumiágy'...
<btami> :))))
<kilo_> they need to be changed... good hungarian roads...
<kilo_> but now we can go back to cvs if you have time
<kilo_> s/cvs/csv
<btami> sure
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<kilo_> so i tried to convert the good old dbf2gdb.py we used
<kilo_> but with no luck
<kilo_> couldnt connect to the csv
<btami> convert to ?
<btami> ah
<btami> let me try my little test...
<kilo_> bbl, switching to another machine
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<kilo_> back
<btami> are you trying released .exe or svn?
<btami> it seems that csv.py is missing from .exe
<btami> i mean the standard Python module
<kilo_> svn
<btami> what error you get?
<kilo_> all sorts of
<kilo_> how should i connect in a recommended way
<btami> try from the connection.gfd first
<kilo_> ah arg uh...
<kilo_> need to svnup this machine first
<kilo_> w2k
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<btami> but it's not a standard python db-api driver, so you have to use the gnue's datasources way
<btami> as jamest explains in developers-guide
<kilo_> ooooh
<kilo_> Traceback (most recent call last):
<kilo_>   File "J:\Python23\Scripts\gnue-forms", line 30, in ?
<kilo_>     from  gnue.forms import GFClient
<kilo_>   File "J:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\gnue\forms\GFClient.py", line 40, in ?
<kilo_>     from gnue.common.logic.language import CompileError
<kilo_> ImportError: cannot import name CompileError
<kilo_> after svn up and running install.bat-s
<btami> have you deleted the old language dir ?
<btami> it's language.py now IIRC
<kilo_> yes
<btami> delete it from the build dir too
<btami> in svn tree
<kilo_> it is not there either
<kilo_> will delete the svn tree and check it out again
<btami> maybe you missed something
<btami> there is no import in language.py line 40
<btami>     msg = u_("No adapter available for language '%s'") % language
<kilo_> it is line 40 in GFClient.py that reports error
<btami> oh, sorry
<btami> but language.py has
<btami> class CompileError (gException):
<btami>   pass
<kilo_> deleting, deleting, deleting... w2k at work...
* kilo_ queries btami status tomorrow
* btami will be on the board tomorrow
* kilo_ wonders what takes ages for w2k to delete the svn tree...
<btami> bbl
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<SachaS> night
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<Vee> @title http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/13/150253&mode=nested&tid=117&tid=99
<bigbrother> Vee: Slashdot | FSF Migrating From Savannah to Gforge
<jcater> <nolog> w00t
<Vee> @config plugins.channellogger.noLogPrefix
<bigbrother> Vee: '[nolog]'
<Vee> -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =-
<Vee> @list
<bigbrother> Vee: Admin, Babelfish, BadWords, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Debian, Dunno, Fun, Google, Http, Karma, Lookup, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Python, Quotes, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, Status, Todo, User, and Weather
<jcater> @karma
<bigbrother> jcater: Highest karma: 'gvim' (1).  Lowest karma: 'gvim' (1).
<Vee> @gvim++
<Vee> hey.. did getting a gnue solution operable from a pocketpc or palm based device get anyway functional?
<Vee> a friend was talking yesterday about getting ready to start writing something at the hospital he works at where most everyone has palms, to access a db.. 
<Vee> prior to his mentioning the palms, it sounded like a real easy thing to get going using forms. I think he'd mentioned some of the people have pocketpcs but they were definately the minority. 
<Vee> @uptime
<bigbrother> Vee: I have been running for 3 days, 21 hours, 9 minutes, and 20 seconds.
<jamest> Vee: i've looked at it a bit
<jamest> problem is no python on palms
<jamest> no recent python anyway
<Vee> hmmph
<jamest> some eon i need to work up some palm based farm software
<Vee> it's definately a hot feature people want from what I can tell.. the hand held solution, that is. 
<Vee> one our outside dudes came in with one of those zaurus handhelds last time he was here.. that was pretty cool
<Vee> we had vim running in it.. :)
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<Vee> when's sarge slated for release, ya'll know?
* Vee looks for the vegan
<jcater> 18 months ago?
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<jcater> @weather 38654
<bigbrother> jcater: The current temperature in Germantown, TN is 53°F.  Conditions: Partly Sunny.  Humidity: 37%.  Wind: NW at 18 mph (29 km/h).
<dsmith> @weather 44233
<bigbrother> dsmith: The current temperature in North Royalton, OH is 38°F.  Conditions: Rain.  Humidity: 96%.  Wind: NNE at 19 mph (31 km/h).
<dsmith> cool
<Vee> that's using cnn's site and their zipcode db seems to suck.. 
<Vee> @list weather
<bigbrother> Vee: cnn, ham, and weather
<dsmith> Yeah, 44233 is Hinckley
<Vee> @ham 44233
<bigbrother> Vee: The current temperature in Hinckley, Ohio is 37°F (Wind Chill: 27°F). Conditions: Light Rain.
<jcater> yeah, i'm in Olive Branch MS too
<Vee> yea, ham's zip db rocks in comparison. :)
<Vee> but cnn seems to handle the international stuff a little better
<Vee> @cnn ubon ratchathani
<bigbrother> Vee: The current temperature in Ubon Ratchathani, Thailand is 86°F.  Conditions: Mostly Clear.  Humidity: 88%.  Wind: S at 5 mph (8 km/h).
<Vee> @ham ubon ratchathani, thailand
<bigbrother> Vee: Error: No such location could be found.
<Vee> @ham bangkok, thailand
<bigbrother> Vee: Error: No such location could be found.
<Vee> @ham bangkok, th
<bigbrother> Vee: Error: No such location could be found.
<Vee> *shrug*
<kilo> @cnn LHUD
<bigbrother> kilo: Error: No such location could be found.
<kilo> @ham LHUD
<bigbrother> kilo: The current temperature in Szeged, Hungary is 46°F (Wind Chill: 41°F). Conditions: Overcast.
<wendall911> anybody here know anything about the Leopard project? http://www.ossi-leopard.org
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<jamest> wendall911: i know I can't get the url to load :)
<jamest> bbl
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<dsmith> What's ham ?
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<_florin_> good night
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<bamse> jamest: I just sent you some more .po files for french translation.
<bamse> still some work to do
<bamse> I was looking at package proposals
<bamse> supply-chain is around 3 years old
<bamse> is anyone kind of maintaining it nowadays ?
<jamest> i don't think so
<jamest> most docs probably need gone thru
<jamest> and brought up to date :(
<bamse> it looks so, yes
<bamse> I will try and work a little on supply-chain and manufacturing packages
<bamse> will be a good introduction to my next internship :)
<jamest> :)
<jcater> bamse: mostly what you'll find with us in IRC
<jcater> are tool developers
<jcater> just fwiw
<bamse> fwiw ?
<jcater> for what it's worth
<jcater> (if anything)
<bamse> ok, so you think I should go around the mailing list to gather more info about packages ?
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<jcater> actually, what I meant was
<jcater> a lot of ther package designers aren't around these days
<jcater> ther=the
<jcater> it would probably be good to do the package discussions on the mailing list, though
<bamse> ok, I'll try and write something tomorrow, and post it on the mailing list then
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<chillywilly> sup nickr?