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<jproby> good morning
<jproby> well good afternoon actualy
<btami> hi jproby
<jproby> hi
<jproby> does some of you tried to setup gnue with an embeded database ?
<btami> i think firebird can do
<jproby> for small install on only one machine it could be usefull
<btami> but i'v never tried it
<jproby> when you look at gnue from a distribution point of view it seems there's a lot of things to install
<jproby> and nothing to do auto updates etc...
<jproby> so if there's the same problems with database, it become complex for small installs
<jproby> like 2 or 3 clients
<jproby> btami: thx will look at it
<btami> np
<jproby> how is firebird support on gnue ?
<btami> good :)
<jproby> I only use Postgres
<btami> most of here use pg, but me and kilo uses firebird
<jproby> if it's not secret, in what context are you using gnue ?
<btami> and johannesV is fixed things for firebird lately, so it's gnue support is head2head with pg now
<btami> we want to change our old DOS based pyroll/tax app to gnue
<btami> payroll
<SachaS> i got a request sent to me in an email:
<SachaS> What type of licence do you recommend to make commercial implementations possible?
<SachaS> what do you suggest?
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* SachaS is away: away
<jproby> btami: has the implementation began or are you just studying gnue ?
<btami> we started to re-designe the schema, hase some dia, and a framework to convert the old data to the new structure
<btami> no forms/reports yet
<btami> this is a very complex app, complicated algoritms(by law)
<jproby> are you on a big company ? how many users of this app ?
<btami> no we are a small(4 peop) company
<btami> we have about 100 users(companies)
<jproby> oops I see you're soft editor, I thought it was for internal use
<btami> no, we develop/sell our app
<jproby> did you short listed other solutions than gnue ?
<btami> you mean free solutions?
<btami> then i don't
<jproby> not only free, but did you look at other frameworks for your dev ?
<btami> i tried delphi/kylix and visual foxpro, but don't liked them too much
<btami> i know there are oracle developer and others
<btami> but now i'm in live with free
<btami> especially with gnue :)
<btami> and Python is a wonderful language!
<btami> the ideas in gnue are the best you can find
* btami is gnue evangelist :)
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<dimas> hi all
<btami> hi dimas
<dimas> btami: any settings needed for localized reports? 
<dimas> does not work
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<btami> textEncoding=... in gnue.conf
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<btami> <btami> can you get the correct locale encoding in Python?
<btami> <btami> here is mine
<btami> <btami> >>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,'')
<btami> <btami> 'hu_HU'
<btami> <btami> >>> locale.getdefaultlocale()
<btami> <btami> ['hu_HU', 'ISO8859-2']
<btami> <btami> on win i'v got cp1250 IIRC
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<dimas> >>> import locale
<dimas> >>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,'')
<dimas> 'ru_RU.KOI8-R'
<dimas> i have forms working
<dimas> but have not used reports for ages
<dimas> and some libs for pysablotron is packaged differently here
<dimas> like libiconv and now i'm not sure weither it works
<btami> you can try the libxslt filter 
<dimas> what should be changed for that? 
<btami> engine=libxslt in report-filters.conf
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<dimas> Unable to load libxslt
<dimas> at this stage currently
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<btami> dimas: got your error :(
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<dimas> btami: about libxslt?
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<btami> dimas: you here?
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<dimas> btami: yep
<btami> you are using .exe setup files, right?
<dimas> no, i'm on a linux box
<btami> khmm, libxslt doesn't work on Linux ?
<dimas> i got libxslt working
<btami> cool
<btami> so you solved the problem?
<dimas> can't get output in local encodings
* btami has no ideas
<btami> have to go, bbl
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<SachaS> anyone had this happen? :
<SachaS> there is a fly on your screen and you take the cursor (mouse) and you want to try to drive away the fly with it?
<SachaS> does this mean you spend too much time on the computer???
<jamest_> lol
<jamest_> SachaS: yes
<jamest_> it does mean you spend too much time on the computer
<jcater> well, could have been worse
<jcater> he could have tried to do a rubberband box around the fly to select it
<jcater> then try to delete it :)
<dsmith> SachaS: I've been working on something with hand tools, and grabbed for a wrench.  When it wasn't where I thought it was I tried to use grep. (Started typing in the air!)
<SachaS> haha
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<btami> reinhard: you here?
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<reinhard> btami: yesw
<reinhard> yes
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<aries> hi
<btami> sigh
<btami> can you help a newbie to install on Manrake, if i invite him here?
<aries> i've got a problem. i'm using a Mandrake 10.1 with  wxPythonGTK-py2.3-2.4.2.4-1.i386.rpm
<reinhard> errmm
<btami> :)
<reinhard> i am not sure if i can do it from the top of my head
<aries> =)
<aries> gnue-designer said:
<reinhard> IIRC I had to install most of the packages from source
<aries> [aries@ganja aries]$ gnue-designer
<aries> Traceback (most recent call last):
<aries>   File "/usr/local/bin/gnue-designer", line 30, in ?
<aries>     from gnue.designer import Designer
<aries>   File "/usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/designer/Designer.py", line 65, in ?
<aries>     from wxPython.wx import *
<aries>   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wxPython/__init__.py", line 20, in ?
<aries>     import wxc
<aries> ImportError: /usr/lib/wxPython-2.4.2.4/lib/libwx_gtkd-2.4.so: undefined symbol: __rtti_user
<btami> aries: i have another peop on ICQ online with the same problem :)
<aries> I'm neighter a Python guru nor WX
<btami> oh no, you are
<aries> I couldn't recognizte this msg
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* aries too
<reinhard> guess whether i am...
<reinhard> to be honest
<reinhard> i didn't even try designer on mandrake
<reinhard> have you tried forms?
<aries> trying...
<btami> reinhard: you compiled wxpython too?
<aries> no, installed from rpm
<aries> binary
<aries> Error: No Forms Definition File Specified. - user error ;-)
<reinhard> try gnue-forms intro.gfd
<reinhard> in the directory where intro.gfd is (samples directory)
<aries> gnue-forms /usr/local/gnue/share/gnue/dialogs/about.gfd
<jcater> that's an internal form
<jcater> I don't know if you can call it from the command-line w/o an error
<reinhard> Hi All, 
<reinhard> Thanks for help and advise. 
<reinhard> I run wxPythonGTK-2.4.2.4-2.mdk 
<reinhard> I got it from mandrake site from 10 folder.  
<reinhard> I could run gnue-designer -n forms 
<reinhard> is what i find in the mailing list archive
<aries> works
<reinhard> from what I find it seems that I used wx that is enclosed in mandrake
<aries> (intro)
<reinhard> ok
<reinhard> so it seems to be a designer problem
<reinhard> designer usually is much more picky about wx than forms
<reinhard> as it uses more features of wx AFAIK
<aries> DB000: /usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/UIdriver.py:117: DeprecationWarning: use pango.Language instead
<aries> DB000:   pango.pango_language_from_string('english'))
<aries> DB000: /usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/ToolBar.py:95: DeprecationWarning:
<aries> DB000:   None, icon, None, None)
<aries> DB000: /usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/ToolBar.py:104: DeprecationWarning:
<aries> DB000:   self.toolbar.append_space()
<aries> DB000: /usr/local/gnue/lib/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/ToolBar.py:86: DeprecationWarning:
<aries> DB000:   None, icon, None, None)
<aries> but they're warnings
<reinhard> oh
<reinhard> you use gtk2 ui driver?
<aries> yes
<reinhard> try using the wx ui driver
<reinhard> that would show whether wx works or not
<reinhard> :)
<aries> =)
<aries> where can i set the wx driver instead of gtk2?
<aries> i've couldn't find yet...
<reinhard> what command line did you use to start the form?
<aries> gnue-forms ...
<aries> gnue-forms intro.gfd
<aries> as you wrote
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<reinhard> i am completely confused now
<reinhard> that should actually select wx as default ui
<aries> but erm, where can i select it?
<reinhard> can you please try gnue-forms -u wx intro.gfd
<reinhard> ?
<aries> Error: Unable to load UI driver: The GNUe-Forms wx driver requires wxPython.
<aries> but
<aries> [aries@ganja intro]$ rpm -qa wx*
<aries> wxGTK-2.4.2-4mdk
<aries> wxPythonGTK-py2.3-2.4.2.4-1
<reinhard> do you have different python versions installed?
<aries> aries@ganja intro]$ uname -a
<aries> Linux ganja 2.4.22-openmosix2 #1 Fri Nov 21 18:31:55 CET 2003 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) unknown GNU/Linux
<aries> [aries@ganja intro]$ rpm -qa python*
<aries> python-2.3.4-3mdk
<aries> python-base-2.3.4-3mdk
<reinhard> looks like the wxPythonGTK package doesn't fit the mandrake wxGTK package
<reinhard> did you download that sepearately?
<reinhard> IIRC wxPython was there on the CD for that MDK 10 I used
<aries> yes
<aries> because wxPython 2.5.x is in the cooker's 
<aries> -'s
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<aries> I've dl the wxP separately from a redhat mirror
* aries a Mandrake user, hi has more experiences with FreeBSD and Debian
<reinhard> looks like the redhat wxPython packages don't work for mandrake
<reinhard> maybe different directory layout
* aries a newbie Mandrake user, hi has more experiences with FreeBSD and Debian
<aries> maybe... I'll install the mdk-version tomorrow
<aries> thanks a lot for your help, Reinhard!
<aries> I have to go now
<aries> bye
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