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<kilo> hi everyone
<btami> hi 
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<reinhard> brb
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<reinhard> kilo: you have a minute?
<kilo> yes of course
<reinhard> i have some very basic thoughts on the gnue-packages
<reinhard> first of all, i have the feeling that the directory structure is too deep
<reinhard> gnue-packages/package/module/class/module.gcd
<reinhard> means that all of those "class" directories actually can only hold a single module
<reinhard> erm
<reinhard> a single file
<reinhard> maybe we want gnue-package/package/module/and_here_go_all_files
<kilo> hmm, we can consider that
<reinhard> but i'm not sold if you have another idea
<kilo> i took the old packages struct and worked on that
<reinhard> however i don't think it makes sense to have directories that only contain a single file
<reinhard> and the second basic thing i am thinking of
<kilo> btw we should again take the gcd import directive and talk about that
<kilo> ok, go on
<reinhard> we might want some kind of "standard" for field length
<reinhard> lengths
<reinhard> for string fields
<reinhard> the current state seems rather arbitary
<reinhard> some are string(30), some are string(25) etc.
<kilo> it is again mainly based on the old packages
<reinhard> yeah i know that
<reinhard> it's not criticism against you
<kilo> i think we should try to organize a kinda online meeting about packages
<reinhard> just trying to improve as we move from the old to the new packages
<reinhard> maybe
<kilo> i just would like to finish uploading what i have done so far
<kilo> and then we should argue about that
<reinhard> on the field lenghts i had some thoughts in the past
<reinhard> and i had the idea of using what EDIFACT defines
<kilo> so field lengths are basically based on old packages info
<kilo> and on hungarian 'standars'
<reinhard> ah :)
<reinhard> EDIFACT uses 35 for most structured text fields
<reinhard> and 70 on "free text" fields
<kilo> so if there is a better standard (and i am sure there is) we should use that
<reinhard> i have no idea how they got to those numbers
<reinhard> but my thought was "it must have a reason"
<reinhard> :)
<kilo> hmmm, 70 looks a little bit short imho
<reinhard> so we even started to use 35 and 70 for class repository
<reinhard> well to be precises
<reinhard> precise
<reinhard> 70 is for a line of a free text
<reinhard> where in edifact, free text is organized in lines
<reinhard> for multi line free texts (like item description) we might consider unlimited strings
<kilo> ok, i basically agree with you
<reinhard> ok
<reinhard> just wanted to tell you before i forget again :)
<kilo> i will finish uploading in about 2 days and then we should hold a conference
<reinhard> erm
<reinhard> i will go on holiday Thursday
<reinhard> and come back Monday afternoon
<kilo> btw i am very very much looking forward to curses...
<reinhard> so probably next week
<reinhard> kilo: did you try already?
<kilo> i don't think we should hurry
<kilo> no. should i?
<reinhard> not very functional yet, but you get a feeling
<reinhard> biggest drawback is you can't navigate through the records yet
<reinhard> nor can you issue a query :)
<reinhard> so to look what a form would look like, you should use a form with prequery
<kilo> so it works but does nothing 8-))
<reinhard> but i would like to have a "early feedback"
<reinhard> kilo: yes :)
<kilo> ok, will have a look at it
<kilo> so i will issue an email to gnue-dev when i am 'finished' with packages
<kilo> and try to organize an online meeting for discussion
<kilo> but if i think further, text field standard length should be 42, 'cause - as we all know - that is the meaning of life 8-))
<reinhard> kilo: lol
<kilo> reinhard: bye for now, will try curses tonight
<reinhard> thanks
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<derek> before getting rid of directories go read the irc logs from many moons ago
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* derek can't remember the details, but jcater, me and neilt talked on this subject for a number of DAYS before deciding that
<derek> likely there is good insight as to why you might want to keep it
<derek> OR
<derek> there might be new factors that make doing so a poor idea
<reinhard> derek: the reasons for the directories have gone AFAICT
<reinhard> as with geas, we have put every class in a separate file
<reinhard> and with appserver, we put all classes of a module in a single file
<reinhard> oh sorry
<reinhard> let me rephrase
<reinhard> and with appserver, we put all tables of a module in a single file
<reinhard> :-)
<reinhard> btw
<reinhard> did you notice that tiffany wants to contact you
<reinhard> and show you her webcam videos?
<reinhard> ;-P
<reinhard> off to lug meeting
<reinhard> bye
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<SachaAway> hey SachaLog where you going?
<SachaAway> kilo: if you are reading logs. the ubl specification has a couple of code lists
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<dsmith> Didn't there used to be a jbailey around here?
* dsmith might be imagining things
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