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<kilo> morning everyone
<johannesV> hi kilo
<SachaS> morning kilo
<kilo> damn early dawn it is
<SachaS> the right time for a wodka? just kidding :)
<johannesV> i've just found a bug in appserver
<kilo> vodka is no-go, whisky is the water of life
<kilo> but then who would drive home
<SachaS> ok have to run
<kilo> bug in appserver?
<johannesV> if a procedure raises an exception it will be eaten by geasSession.call () which leads to a IndexError exception
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<johannesV> so a runtime error from a procedure will never reach the front-end giving a serious error message or a reasonable traceback
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<kilo> hi reinhard, hi dimas
<reinhard> hi
<dimas> hello kilo, reinhard and all
<kilo> reinhard: I was thinking a little bit about Packages
<kilo> if I develop an invoicing app, imho it should be committed to the gnue-contrib
<kilo> as it would certainly include specialized, localized parts, only valid in Hungary
<kilo> but it should use as much GCDs as possible from gnue-packages
<kilo> eg an invoice.gcd. Am I right
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<reinhard> kilo: ideally, you would create an invoice.gcd in gnue-packages
<reinhard> that contains a "general" invoicing app valid more or less everywhere
<kilo> aye, just did that, i think...
<reinhard> and a huinvoice.gcd *also* in gnue-packages that extends the invoice app with hu specific stuf
<reinhard> stuff
<kilo> hmmm
<kilo> and what do you think best practive would be to extend a module
<kilo> practice
<reinhard> extend the classes
<reinhard> have additional properties and procedures
<reinhard> in detail probably depends on what the difference is
<kilo> can you give a little example, i don't seem to understand
<kilo> just foos and bars
<SachaS> kilo there is a little bit in the how to I wrote about that...
<reinhard> example
<kilo> i remember once it was clear, and i stored in my brain that it works. but that was some time ago...
<reinhard> swiss invoicing
<reinhard> in swizerland, every company has a tax number
<reinhard> (not the vat id we use in the EU)
<reinhard> and that tax number has to be printed on the invoice
<reinhard> so while you have a "standard" customer class that has no tax number property
<reinhard> you might have a chinvoice module
<reinhard> that extends the customer class
<reinhard> and adds a property "taxNumber"
<kilo> i do understand the principal, but how should it look like in a gcd
<reinhard> i think the syntax was
<reinhard> <module name="chInvoicing">
<reinhard>   <class name="invoicing_customer">
<reinhard>     <property name="taxNumber" type=string(6) />
<reinhard>   </class>
<reinhard> </module>
<reinhard> where invoicing_customer is the fully qualified class name of the "original" class we want to extend
<kilo> ok then, i will give it a try. thx reinhard, SachaS
<kilo> btw am i right that a string in a GCD can be of arbitrary length, if length is not given explicitly?
<reinhard> yes
<reinhard> however it's translated into an SQL type depending on the database
<reinhard> there are databases that do not support "infinite" length varchars
<reinhard> i'd say with no given length, it should be reliable that the property can hold "long enough" strings :-)
<kilo> ok
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<johannesV> back again
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<lekma> good morning
<johannesV> kilo: the sample above could also be <module name="chInvoicing"><class name="customer" module="invoicing">....
<johannesV> (if one doesn't like full qualification)
<kilo> ah, ok
<kilo> lekma: hi
<kilo> whick DB you used on Gentoo?
<lekma> kilo: postgresql
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<lekma> kilo: are you running gentoo yourself?
<kilo> if time permits i wuold install it in the weekend
<lekma> :)
<lekma> very time consuming if you start from a stage1
<kilo> i would like to play with it, but only if i have time
<SachaS> i think kilo is busy with .gcd's :)
<kilo> no, they are a joy to work with 8-))
<lekma> later
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<whizman> jcater: last week we started discussing format masks...
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<jcater> whizman: I'm on call 90 miles from my office, so can't discuss at the moment
<jcater> I'm not ignoring you
<whizman> ok, np.
<chillywilly> that is unacceptable jcater 
<chillywilly> what about being on call for GNUe ;)
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<jcater> chillywilly: you foot the bill
<jcater> and I will be
<chillywilly> riiight
<chillywilly> you're the one with all the money
<chillywilly> :)
<whizman> chillywilly: i assume you are on-call to recover the legendary format mask implementation lost to rm-r :)
<chillywilly> I have to use a credit card to eat lunch I am so broke
<chillywilly> whizman: you assume wrong
<whizman> chillywilly: hehe, couldnt resist :)
<jamest> since when has anything jcater written been legendary?
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<jets> *groans at his asterisk box*
<chillywilly> jamest: hehe
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<jcater> "legendary" seems a good adjective to me
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<chillywilly> pffft
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<kilo> hi holycow
<kilo> wont bother you but how are you getting along with monday meeting's summary?
<holycow> i was sick yesterday :/ and the day b4
<holycow> farkin i'll do it tonight
<holycow> my appologies
<kilo> ok, just that because i would like to discuss it further, so if you dont have time/energy i will do it
<holycow> i at least want to give it a shot tho, my thanks for the offer :)
<kilo> ok, thanks
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<reinhard> night all
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