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<wt> hi bd
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<kilo> yo
<reinhard> jcater: did you see ui working for reports?
<jcater>  cool
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<reinhard> did you alredy look at it?
<jcater> no
<reinhard> would like to know how close it is to what you envisioned :-)
<jcater> you have screenshots?
<reinhard> actually not
<reinhard> you run svn somewhere?
* reinhard creates some screenshots now
<jcater> sorry.. I do run svn
<jcater> but am tied up atm
<reinhard> np
<reinhard> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~reinhard/report-parameters.png
<jcater> reinhard: no, that's absolutely horrible
<jcater> what were you thinking?
<jcater> (just kidding)
<jcater> yeah, that's pretty much the basic idea
<kilo> reinhard: what is that fish on the right?
<reinhard> the first 2 entries are parameters
<reinhard> kilo: gnome fish applet
<reinhard> you use gnome?
<kilo> yes
<reinhard> it's the best applet in the world
<reinhard> you can find it as applets/entertainment (or something like that)
<kilo> erm, any relations to wanda?
<reinhard> .../fish
<reinhard> yes
<reinhard> it *is* wanda
<kilo> i translated it to Gaelic, but havent used it...
<reinhard> hehe
<reinhard> actually it does nothing but give you a fortune every time you click on it
<kilo> my personal fav is cowsay
<derek> reinhard : can you read gnuenterprise.net?
<derek> it looks like mild gibberish to me
<derek> but not sure if it is a squat or something more
<derek> as they appear to link back to gnuenterprise.org
<reinhard> derek: yes, it's the guy i've already talked to
<reinhard> he said he wants to build a "community portal" for gnuenterprise
<reinhard> where users can register links etc
<reinhard> he also registered gnuenterprise.at and gnue.at
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<reinhard> also he claimed the if there was special content
<reinhard> he would give away subdomains for free
<reinhard> if the content is gnue related
<kilo> eg?
<jcater> hotgnuegirls.gnuenterprise.net ?
<reinhard> yeah
<reinhard> or
<reinhard> goats.gnuenterprise.org
<reinhard> erm .net
<reinhard> well seriously
<reinhard> things maybe like
<reinhard> hungary.gnuenterprise.net
<reinhard> for hungarian gnue community
<reinhard> from the phone call i had with him
<reinhard> i got the impression that he actually wants to do good to the project
<reinhard> but he also wants to earn money by doing so
<reinhard> he would also *sell* subdomains like bytewise.gnuenterprise.net, ibm.gnuenterprise.net etc
<kilo> wow, we could have a subdomain with btmai 8-((
<kilo> s/btmai/btami
<kilo> s/8-((/8-))
<reinhard> kilo: even two: hungary *and* the name of your company ;-)
* reinhard just noticed he has no idea how the company btami and kilo work for is called
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<reinhard> bbl
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<derek> hahahah
<derek> i read
<derek>  reinhard: #gnuenterprise ("Download Gaim:
<derek> as
<derek> reinhard: #gnuenterprise ("Download Goat:
<nickr> goat
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<jcater> mooo
<jcater> err, baaaah
<nickr> goats really go more like 'meeheheh' no?
<reinhard> nickr: that's sheep
<reinhard> i think
<reinhard> or the other way around?
<nickr> The other way around
<nickr> sheep go baaah
<jcater> cow goes moooo
<reinhard> cat goes "miau"
<reinhard> reinhard goes "hmmm"
<reinhard> jcater goes "donut"
<reinhard> ...
<jcater> chillywi1ly goes "bitch, bitch, bitch"
* jcater hides
<nickr> muah
<reinhard> btw for all those interested
<reinhard> today is austria's independence day
<nickr> happy birthday austria
<reinhard> that's why
* reinhard leaves for tv evening
<derek> has anyone here used eclipse?
<chillywi1ly> jcater goes whine whine whine
<chillywi1ly> :)
<chillywi1ly> there's no OSS/FS that does optimistic locking
<chillywi1ly> that sucks
<nickr> I prefer pessimistic locking
<chillywi1ly> not good for web apps
<nickr> hm
<nickr> from what I read, that is what my cgi dbdriver does
<chillywi1ly> what driver is that?
<nickr> the script is called dbdriver
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<nickr> but basically it operates like that
<nickr> when you commit changes
<chillywi1ly> there's like 3 methods to do optimistic locking, a version number comparison, a timestamp or "state" comparison in the WHERE clause of the UPDATE
<chillywi1ly> if you get 0 rows affected then you know someone pulled the rug out from under you
<nickr> In this db scheme rows aren't deleted
<nickr> each row has a version and an id
<nickr> so modifications to an id are a copy of the row with the modifications and a new version
<chillywi1ly> no audit trail ;P
<nickr> what do you mean, no audit trail?
<chillywi1ly> you could use a trigger and a separate audit table
<chillywi1ly> :)
<nickr> O_o
<nickr> why and how?
<chillywi1ly> that's how I am going to do it
<chillywi1ly> so you have history and the possiblity of an undo
<nickr> how does the scheme that I just described no allow either of those?
<chillywi1ly> I just don't want to actual live tables to kep growing and growing
<chillywi1ly> I can dump and archive the audit tables if needed
<nickr> you can in this scheme too
<chillywi1ly> lalala
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<seb> I'm trying out appserver from cvs, err svn. the database script gsetupdbcvs fails with:
<seb> Loading gsd file '/home/seb/gnue/share/gnue/appserver/gnue.gsd' ...
<seb> CREATE USER
<seb> CREATE DATABASE
<seb> The PostgreSQL driver returned the following error:
<seb>         FATAL:  IDENT authentication failed for user "gnue"
<seb> (debian sid, all the susal setup)
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