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<kilo> good morning
<btami> morning
<johannesV> good morning
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<ajmitch_> hi
<reinhard> bbl
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<johannesV> kilo, it was my intention to *NOT* include gnue.gsd into gnue-cddb project
<johannesV> cause it *should* use appserver/share/gnue-gsd
<johannesV> as soon as this changes, i've two *different* versions of gnue.gsd
<johannesV> (leading into troubles!)
<kilo> what would be the best way to include a link instead?
<johannesV> no, just leave it away
<johannesV> if somebody likes to use cddb she needs a running appserver anyway
<johannesV> so, we can assume gnue.gsd has already been processed
<johannesV> we could add a README pointing the user to appserver's setup-instructions
<kilo> is a link always placed in ~/gnue/share/gnue/appserver?
<johannesV> yes
<johannesV> but you cannot assume the share-directory in ~/gnue/share/... (i think, but ask reinhard about this)
<kilo> putting the gsd in there is not good, but links cannot be added to svn. we would need some script magic to find the place of gnue.gsd
<johannesV> i think there is something like this already ...
<kilo> if you point me to the right direction, i will do it
<johannesV> i don't remember exactly, so i would have to look into it too ...
<kilo> kilo EEG: ----------
<kilo> in fact i wanted only to see how this project looks like and so created these scripts, as imho it was lacking these. i wont say it is the best way to do it at all.
<kilo> having slept only 3 hours i can agree anything...
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<kilo> @roulette
<bigbrother> kilo: *click*
<kilo> @weather LHUD
<bigbrother> kilo: The current temperature in Szeged, Hungary is 48°F (1:00 PM CET on December 03, 2004). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 44°F. Wind: ENE at 4 mph (7 km/h). Pressure: 30.06 in (1018 hPa). Visibility: 9.0 miles (15.0 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12
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<kilo> johannesV: there are zillions of queries like
<kilo> SELECT count(*) FROM PIM_PaPe t0 WHERE ((t0.PIM_person LIKE '24562401121469190758943023991173'
<kilo> why do we use LIKE here?
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<johannesV> for the logs: kilo, i think you're using simpleQuery ()
<johannesV> this always creates like-conditions
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<jamest> hows the svn HEAD wrt stability?
<jamest> in common/forms
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<jcater> is btami ever in irc these days?
<reinhard> jamest: there hasn't been much change since the release actually
<reinhard> jcater: not as often as he used to be AFAICT
<reinhard> however kilo is here quite often
<reinhard> and AFAICT they are within shouting distance :)
* SachaS greets gnuenterprise team
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<SachaS> hallo zusammen
<SachaS> hallo johannes, reinhard
<johannesV_> hallo SachaS
<johannesV_> bin leider schon so gut wie wieder weg
<johannesV_> bist du wieder in europa ?
<johannesV_> ah, damn
<johannesV_> this is an english speaking channel ...
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<johannesV_> anyway ... have to leave now ..
<johannesV_> bye
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<SachaS> yep in europe
<SachaS> in germany
<btami> hi all
<SachaS> hi btami
<btami> hi SachaS !
<btami> how goes the work?
<SachaS> i am busy! :) and I get paid
<SachaS> so thats good
<SachaS> i do not have irc at work so I feel a bit offline
<btami> :(
<SachaS> how about you btami?
<btami> the end-year work just started, new laws about personal tax etc...
<btami> in dec. and jan. ihave to work like mad
<SachaS> oi
<SachaS> i see
<btami> wish i can forget the old foxpro app and use gnue only
<btami> but kilo is workin on gue-invoice app to get experience with appserver
<btami> and it's getting better day-by-day
<btami> thanks to Johannes and Reinhard
<SachaS> i just read a little in the logs
<SachaS> they are still going strong!
<btami> yep
<btami> wow, i'v just realized gnue-*.uhu packages are in the DVD packaged with Hungarian PC Magazine
<jcater> btami: are you using the char report filter in production use much?
<btami> not yet
<btami> just testing it with invoice.grd
<SachaS> what is the .grd file?
<btami> in gnue-contrib/gnue-invoice
<SachaS> report got it.
<btami> jcater: why?
<jcater> just curious
<jcater> I've been playing with it a lot
<btami> feel free to enhance it in any way :)
<jcater> btami: ok, I will
<jcater> :)
<btami> ok :)
<jcater> I like it, btw
<jcater> only things I'm seeing are minor improvements
<btami> i know there are missing features like group footer keep together n line, or start on new page etc.
<btami> but it's a start
<jcater> yes, a good start
<SachaS> cant even remeber how to update svn ;)
<jcater> svn update
<jcater> :)
<SachaS> thanks :)
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<SachaS> hi kilo
<SachaS> nice to meet you
<SachaS> what is your invoice contrib project?
<SachaS> am about to check it out
<SachaS> ;)
<kilo> hiiii SachaS
<kilo> invoice? hehe. well, it can produce invoices, btami just put together a basic report for it
<SachaS> ok
<holycow> <SachaS> cant even remeber how to update svn ;)  <-- ehe
<holycow> yeah, man me too, soooooo goddamned busy
<kilo> it was and is a good test case for appserver, helped to discover a lot of bugs
<SachaS> svn co svn://svn.gnuenterprise.org/var/svn/gnue-contrib/invoice
<SachaS> kilo: above does not work
<SachaS> hi holycow
<btami> s/invoice/gnue-invoice
<kilo> svn co svn://svn.gnuenterprise.org/var/svn/gnue-contrib
<SachaS> there it is :)
<kilo> and use it with the gtk2 interface, that is very good
<SachaS> have to set it up first
<kilo> follow the readme or install file
<jcater> btami: I'm also thinking about how to do a designer layout editor for these new reports
<jcater> I don't think it will be hard to go
<jcater> (famous last words...)
<ajmitch_> morning
<jcater> howdy
<kilo> jcater: well, btami would be VERY pleased with that...
<jcater> I actually have a lot of uncommitted reports stuff I've been working on this week
<jcater> it is on my laptop
<ajmitch_> great
<btami> kilo: yesssssss
<btami> jcater: writing char based reports by hand is booooooring :)
<btami> so please go!
<SachaS> kilo: i guess it works
<SachaS> :)
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<kilo> SachaS: any problems?
<SachaS> ahhmm
<SachaS> one or two
<SachaS> ;)
<kilo> ask
<SachaS> cant commit a change in the install file (instead of scheme directory it should be scripts directory)
<SachaS> in INV_grid I did not know that I have to press add first. i was putting strange values into the empty table and then i pressed add
<kilo> ah, yes, scripts dir. you commit or should i do it?
<SachaS> i cant or cant remember how i have to
<SachaS> you do it ;9
<SachaS> but looks good :)
<kilo> ah, imho you've checked out the contrib svn tree as anon
<kilo> it should have been svn co svn+ssh://blabla
<SachaS> oh yeah
<SachaS> i like how slim the .gcd files are
<reinhard> hi SachaS
<reinhard> good to see you back gnue'ing
<reinhard> :)
<SachaS> hi reinhard
<SachaS> i feel totally outdated :)
<reinhard> I believe that
<reinhard> I mean, your last involvement in gnue is as old as
<reinhard> ... well
<reinhard> ... as old as
<reinhard> our debian packages!
<reinhard> :-P
<jcater> ba da bing
<reinhard> ajmitch_: SCNR
<ajmitch_> ?
<ajmitch_> I hassled jeff again today :P
<reinhard> ajmitch_: j/k
<ajmitch_> [07:30:11] <ajmitch_> uploaded anything for me? :)
<ajmitch_> [07:30:32] <jbailey> Er.. No.  I should do that.
<reinhard> ajmitch_: good
<reinhard> beat him :)
<ajmitch_> hehe
* SachaS remembers appserver 0.0.7
<reinhard> yeah
* SachaS aka james bond
<reinhard> we're at 0.3.3 now :)
<jcater> gack!
<jcater> jamest: we need to work on forms some more
<jcater> I think the appserver people are trying to overtake our version number
<reinhard> we already made it for navigator and for reports :-P
<jcater> fwiw, I'm moving reports to 0.2.0 with btami's char-based layout thingy
<reinhard> excellent
<ajmitch_> great
<ajmitch_> yet more packages to build & get uploaded ;)
<jcater> (not today, of course)
<reinhard> ajmitch_: just to be curious, are there any estimates about when you will get your upload permission?
<ajmitch_> reinhard: sometime between now & the end of the world
<reinhard> lol
<ajmitch_> this is debian
<ajmitch_> I haven't waited 666 days yet ;)
<jcater> well, on a positive note
<jcater> that means you'll have it by the time sarge is released
<reinhard> rofl
<ajmitch_> released?
<ajmitch_> what's that?
<jcater> what is ( sarge + 1 ) to be called?
<ajmitch_> etch
<jcater> really?
<reinhard> isn't it lovely how we all bitch about debian and still love it? :)
<ajmitch_> the length of time between debian releases has increased by at least 6 months between each
<ajmitch_> yes, etch has been chosen as the name
<reinhard> jcater: yeah, the "etch a sketch" board
<jcater> reinhard: yeah
<jcater> just odd name
<jcater> to pronounce and to write
<ajmitch_> reinhard: just tell people to use ubuntu ;)
<reinhard> ajmitch_: is gnue in universe?
<ajmitch_> yes
<reinhard> coool
<ajmitch_> once I get these packages in, they'll be in universe within a few hours
<ajmitch_> they're syncing that often at the moment
<reinhard> fwiw I installed ubuntu on a customer's notebook yesterday
<reinhard> i like couldn't believe how easy that is
<jamest> gack! 0.3.3
<jcater> I think the sarge installer is a piece of cake
<reinhard> even though i didn't know any single hardware component neither by supplier nor by type
<jcater> press return maybe 6-7 times
<jcater> remove CDRom
<jcater> reboot
<reinhard> jcater: yeah that's so easy for you
<jcater> vs woody
<reinhard> we poor people here can't press return all the time
<reinhard> we have to select the correct language ;-)
<jcater> (which I liked woody's installer just fine)
<reinhard> so we need about twice as much brain as you need for installing sarge ;-)
<jamest> 6 whole IQ points!?!?!
<jamest> damn, you guys must be smart
<reinhard> lol
<reinhard> no kidding
<reinhard> everything worked just out of the box
<jamest> not to slam debian
<reinhard> printer, sound, cd burning
<jcater> only sucky thing I hit
<jcater> is poor sata support
<jamest> but i loved the comment about sarge's release date
<jcater> that's the only install that took me a while to figure out
<jamest> And it'll be released at about the same time as Sadam Heusan(sp?)
<reinhard> Hussein
<jcater> Saddam
<ajmitch_> jcater: I'm sure sata support has improved now..
<jamest> ajmitch_: the latest sarge doesn't support my x306 sata controllers
<ajmitch_> one of the main problems with sarge is the complete lack of security infrastructure in place which is needed for the release
<jamest> in 2.4 or 2.6 kernels
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<ajmitch_> which is a problem they had with woody as well :)
<jcater> did anyone see my gnue-dev post 2 days ago
<jcater> regarding gnue-reports-filter?
<jcater> as it never came thru on my end
<jamest> i didn't see it
<SachaS> is there a cvs version of gnue-setupdb ?
<reinhard> gsetupdbcvs
<ajmitch_> jcater: I think so, let me check
<ajmitch_> yep, I see it
<SachaS> ta
<jcater> hmm
<btami> jcater: yes, me too
<jcater> bizarre
<jcater> ok, thx
<ajmitch_> didn't have time to gush in wonder & awe :)
<jamest> i dbl check ed and no msg here from you
<jcater> I wonder if the @gnue.org addresses are borked
<jamest> i relay thru those too so they could be
<reinhard> same for me actually
<jcater> same = ??
<reinhard> can't remember seeing your message
<reinhard> and i'm subscribed as reinhard at gnue.org
<ajmitch_> I don't know if I have an @gnue.org address, so I never use it :)
<reinhard> night all
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<kilo> http://www.ratemynetworkdiagram.com/?i=124
<SachaS> i have mixed feelings being back online again ;)
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<kilo> mixed?
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<SachaS> got to go
<SachaS> night
<SachaS> got asdl so might be more often online ;) hoooraayyy
<SachaS> ;)
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<nickr> is there a way in psycopg to trace all the queries that occured?
<nickr> well, I really just want to see all the queries that are occuring
<nickr> or better yet, get them as a string that I can pass to syslog
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