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<kilo> good morning
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<johannesV> good morning
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<kilo> hi johannesV
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<johannesV> reinhard, regarding NULL in ORDER BY: it's handled differently by all databases .... :(
<johannesV> many db's have an option in the order-by like 'null first' or 'null last'
<johannesV> other's use a 'set ...' command
<johannesV> so it's quite difficult to say what appserver should do about this ...
<reinhard> hmmmm
<reinhard> you think an option in appserver (gnue.conf) could make sense?
<reinhard> also the question would be
<reinhard> where do NULLs go with desc sorting
<johannesV> right
<johannesV> it would result in such an config-setting
<johannesV> like: NULL_ASC_ORDER=first/last, NULL_DESC_ORDER=first/last
<johannesV> or we could just invert a single state
<johannesV> like: null_order=first/last, which is given for asc and inverted for desc
<reinhard> i'm not sure if it would always be inverted for desc
<reinhard> i could imagine that, for example, NULL could always be last
<reinhard> no matter if I sort asc or desc
<reinhard> in fact i think i even *remember* it being that way
<reinhard> but maybe i confuse something
<kilo> i agree with reinhard
<reinhard> wee!
<reinhard> ;-)
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<kilo> reinhard: what if i agree with 'but maybe i confuse something'? 8-)))
<reinhard> lol
<kilo> anyhow, i do have reallife examples of both sorting
<johannesV> i'd preferr two configuration-settings, one per sort-direction
<johannesV> so we have the most flexibility
<johannesV> but anyway it's something a admin has to take care of (to behave the same way as the backend does)
<kilo> i agree
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<reinhard> all: I've updated the roadmap, can everybody please check if I forgot something?
<reinhard> we've talked about so many features for appserver over the last weeks, we really need to document that
<reinhard> su
<kilo> reinhard: Support for dirty reads (request() will also return uncommitted objects that were created in the same session)
<kilo> does that cover find() also?
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<reinhard> of course as find() uses request() internally
<kilo> great
<holycow> where is it?
<kilo> after svn up, look at gnue-appserver/ROADMAP.in
<holycow> <-- lookin on the web
<holycow> >_>
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<reinhard> web will only get updated daily
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<reinhard> for the record
<reinhard> of course the web gets updated as often as we want, but i didn't think it's worth triggering the update just for a change in the roadmap
<chillywilly> hello
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<dimas> hello all
<dimas> johannesV_: where do we have gnue-appserver/src/labels.py now?
<psu> hi dimas
<dimas> hi psu
<dimas> i removed .pyc there and generated forms do not works
<dimas> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<dimas> DB000:    File "<gnue_class.gnue_form>", line 8, in form
<dimas> DB000:  ImportError: cannot import name labels
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<reinhard> dimas: can you re-import gnue.gsd in your db?
<dimas> it was done today with gnue-appserver/share/gnue.gsd
<dimas> checking again
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<btami> hi
<btami> reinhard: i have this diff in my gnue.gsd
<btami> tamas:~/svn/gnue-contrib/gnue-invoice/scripts$ diff gnue.gsd gnue.gsda
<btami> 25c25
<btami> <   $Id: gnue.gsd 6454 2004-10-05 08:14:04Z johannes $
<btami> ---
<btami> >   $Id: gnue.gsd 6782 2004-12-07 08:51:47Z kilo $
<btami> 896,901c896,899
<btami> <             from gnue.appserver import labels
<btami> <             labels.find  = find
<btami> <             labels.abort = abort
<btami> <             formGen = labels.FormGenerator (self, language, connection,
<btami> <                                             formwidth, formheight)
<btami> <             return formGen.generateForm ()
<btami> ---
<btami> >             from gnue.appserver.generator.form import FormGenerator
<btami> >             formGen = FormGenerator (session, self, language, connection,
<btami> >                                      formwidth, formheight)
<btami> >             return formGen.run ()
<btami> 926c924
<btami> <           <value field="gnue_comment">Langage (locale) for labels</value>
<btami> ---
<btami> >           <value field="gnue_comment">Language (locale) for labels</value>
<btami> i think kilo forgot to commit this...
<btami> grabbed from gnu-contrib/gnue-invoice/scripts/gnue.gsd
<reinhard> the gnue.gsd in gnue-appserver/share is the "autorative" source
<btami> yes, i know
<reinhard> and AFAICT that already contains FormGenerator
<btami> hmm
* btami is confused
<btami> ok, deleted all gue.gsd (links too)
<btami> and seems good
<btami> yes, the gue-contrib contains the old version (opposite to my prevnote)
<btami> not a  good thing
<jcater> reinhard: do you have a lot of uncommitted changes?
<btami> can i add a link to svn ?
<btami> or just regular files ?
<reinhard> jcater: not a single one
<jcater> ok, I was going to run my script that updates our copyright headers
<jcater> if you don't mind
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<reinhard> ah excellent
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<reinhard> fine with me
<btami> i think i delete gnue.gsd from gnue-invoice
<btami> reinhard: what do you think?
<reinhard> probably not a problem at all because an svn up should merge that into any local change w/o problems
<jcater> yeah, svn merge seems pretty sane
<reinhard> btami: I think it was kilo's request to include gnue.gsd for completeness in those projects
<reinhard> I wouldn't mind removing it
<btami> ok
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<btami> reinhard: is there any easy way to get what dir the gnue.gsd had installed, from a shell script?
<btami> the idea is not to use the default gue db for any gue-contrib projects, just another one, like gue-invoice
<btami> this way we can play withbaby projects
<btami> and don't disturb the gnue db, if real users use a real appserver
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<johannesV_> dimas, there's no labels.py any more
<johannesV_> it has been replaced by appserver.generator.form.py
<dimas> ok
<johannesV_> but this happend a few weeks ago
<johannesV_> so you'd need to svn-update ...
<johannesV_> btami, i disliked that copying of 'gnue.gsd' from the beginning, but kilo thought it'd be a good idea ...
<johannesV_> the change in your gnue.gsd is because of that architectural change in gnue-appserver/src from labels.py to generator.form
<johannesV_> but as i've said before, this happened in oct. 2004
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<johannesV_> a python script importing gnue.paths could be used to print the contents of gnue.paths.data (which should be the root-dir where appserver's share is located in)
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<johannesV_> bbl
<dimas> DB000:    File "/home/ds/svn/gnue_head/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/appserver/generator/form.py", line 208, in __createManager
<dimas> DB000:     if sum (width) + len (width) - 1 <= self.__maxWidth:
<dimas> DB000:  NameError: global name 'sum' is not defined
<dimas> it is with updated gnue.gsd and appserver sources
<btami> johannesV_: thx
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<btami> dimas: how you get this error?
<dimas> calling generated (appserver) form from navigator
<btami> works for me with appservers sample.gpd with wx uidriver
<btami> but got Segmentation errorwith gtk2 :(
<btami> bbl
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<dimas> btami: could it be python version dependancy? as i'm on 2.2 now
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<johannesV_> sum is a python-builtin
<johannesV_> dimas, i've to check if this is python2.3 specific ...
<johannesV_> ok, gonna switch to notebook and other room now ... brb
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<johannesV> dimas, thanks for reporting this bug. sum () is a new function introduced in python2.3
<dimas> ok
<johannesV> dimas, please svn-update and try it again
<dimas> ok
<johannesV> it's a quick fix, and maybe i'll do it a bit cleaner later on ...
<dimas> now im getting
<dimas> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 246, in start_element_ns
<dimas> DB000:     prefix = self._ns_stack[-1][apair[0]][-1]
<dimas> DB000: KeyError: GNUe:Layout:Char
<dimas> [
<johannesV> ?
<dimas> yep, strange error
<dimas> test again tomorrow
<johannesV> ok
<dimas> johannesV: thanks
<dimas> bye
<johannesV> bye
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<kilo_> hi SachaS
<kilo_> congrats
<SachaS> hi kilo_
<SachaS> thanks
<SachaS> :)
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