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<soda> hello
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<dimas> good morning
<soda> hi
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<dimas> hi soda, btami
<btami> hi all
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<kilo> good morning
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<dimas> hi kilo
<kilo> hi dimas
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<soda> may i ask some questions ?
<dimas> sure
<soda> im trying to make to form ( f1 and f2), i have datasource in f1, i make a button to open the f2 form
<soda> im trying to send to form2 some variable from f1
<dimas> even if no one at the home right now, many will read from backlog later
<soda> but how to use this variable in f2 and use it in sql statment
<dimas> let me look
<dimas> first you have something like runForm("phone.gfd", param)
<soda> jest i have sth like this
<dimas> in that form you define
<soda> parameters = {'order_no': blkX_view_order.fldOrder_not.get() }
<dimas> <form title="Phones">
<dimas>   <parameter name="OrgGnueId" default="DefValue" type="string"/>
<soda> form.runForm(f2.gfd,parameters)
<soda> and this should send the order_no to f2 form
<dimas> you should get parameter
<dimas>   <trigger type="On-Startup"><![CDATA[
<dimas>       #form.setFeature('GUI:MENUBAR:SUPPRESS',1)
<dimas>       #form.setFeature('GUI:TOOLBAR:SUPPRESS',1)
<dimas>       #form.setFeature('GUI:STATUSBAR:SUPPRESS',1)
<dimas>       print "GnueId=", getParameter("Foo")
<dimas>       print "OrgGnueId=", getParameter("orggnueid")
<dimas>       ]]>
<dimas>     </trigger>
<kilo> soda: check hotline or gnue-invoice in gnue-contrib, there are many many examples for that
<soda> nice, i will try, thanks
<kilo> like
<kilo>   <trigger name='startupSearch' type='NAMED'>
<kilo>     match = getParameter('id')
<kilo>     if match:
<kilo>       dts.simpleQuery({'gnue_id': match})
<kilo>   </trigger>
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<soda> its working :)
<soda> thank You
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<dimas> soda: great. are you suppose to use appserver or 2-tier mode?
<kilo> soda: great
<soda> just 2-tier if its multiform or something ? :)
<dimas> ok
<kilo> we have a GREAT appserver...
<soda> im going to smoke
<soda> i will be in a minute
<btami> <nickr> anybody have experience getting McMillan Installer 6a2 working with wx?
<btami> nickr: we used it before to produce win32 packages, but it's not available anymore
<btami> i'm suggesting py2exe instead
<btami> http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/py2exe/
<btami> http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/moin.cgi/Py2Exe
<btami> you can find gnue win32 installer files in gnue-common/packaging/win32
<kilo> @seen SachaS
<bigbrother> kilo: SachaS was last seen here 20 hours, 4 minutes, and 46 seconds ago saying: <SachaS> thats great to see
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<dimas> hi reinhard
<reinhard> hi dimas
<kilo> hi reinhard
<dimas> reinhard: xmlrpclib is guilty
<reinhard> dimas: really?
<dimas> let me show
<reinhard> <kilo> we have a GREAT appserver...
<reinhard> I *saw* that!
<reinhard> ;-)
<reinhard> hi kilo
<kilo> i really think so
<reinhard> kilo: j/k
<reinhard> dimas: sorry, about to go for lunch
<reinhard> but will be back later
<reinhard> and will read the log
* kilo thinking what he wanted to tell to reinhard earlier...
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<ra3vat> reinhard, class Unmarshaller in xmlrpclib.py has a code
<ra3vat>     def end_string(self, data):
<ra3vat>         if self._encoding:
<ra3vat>             data = _decode(data, self._encoding)
<ra3vat>         self.append(_stringify(data))
<ra3vat> where
<ra3vat> def _decode(data, encoding, is8bit=re.compile("[\x80-\xff]").search):
<ra3vat>     # decode non-ascii string (if possible)
<ra3vat>     if unicode and encoding and is8bit(data):
<ra3vat>         data = unicode(data, encoding)
<ra3vat>     return data
<ra3vat> and
<ra3vat> if unicode:
<ra3vat>     def _stringify(string):
<ra3vat>         # convert to 7-bit ascii if possible
<ra3vat>         try:
<ra3vat>             return str(string)
<ra3vat>         except UnicodeError:
<ra3vat>             return string
<ra3vat> reinhard, that _stringify does converting to plain string
<ra3vat> py_xmlrpc returns utf-8
<reinhard> will look after lunch
<reinhard> i don't understand why it does return utf-8 for me
<reinhard> even though i don't have utf-8 as my locale setting either
<reinhard> bbl
<kilo> johannesV: if you read the logs: your hack yesterday has also helped in that properties set in a class' OnInit to display on the form. they did not earlier.
* kilo slaps his forehead: ah, i remember now
<ra3vat> reinhard, some differencies between wx and gtk2?
<kilo> reinhard: hotline, clean new install. stammdaten.gfd gives error when switching between tabs
<reinhard> back
<reinhard> ra3vat: I do not understand how _stringify can convert an 8-bit string to plain string
<reinhard> if the string contains any non-ascii character, the UnicodeError should occur
<reinhard> example:
<reinhard> >>> x = u'Müller'
<reinhard> >>> str (x)
<reinhard> Traceback (most recent call last):
<reinhard>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
<reinhard> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xfc' in position 1: ordinal not in range(128)
<reinhard> can you test something like that for me?
<reinhard> maybe str() behaves different for you?
<dimas> it is if your default encoding is ascii
<dimas> if it is 8-bit encoding - there is no unicode error
<reinhard> is this set by sys.setdefaultencoding?
<reinhard> I read that this is some very low level function not intended to be used by applications
<reinhard> so you have a distro that sets it to koi8-r?
<ra3vat> i have
<reinhard> ok
<ra3vat> and in debian there is /etc/python2.3/site.py where it could be set
<reinhard> you would agree that xmlrpc always returns either unicode string or 8-bit string in default encoding?
<ra3vat> encoding='ascii' defines default encoding that is used to initialize unicode support
<reinhard> wow
<reinhard> I didn't know that
<ra3vat> we did not use setdefaultencoding in gnue code but tried to accomplish the same  - initialize unicode support with needed 8-bit encoding
<ra3vat> from memory
<ra3vat> reinhard, agree
<reinhard> ok
<reinhard> so I think we should alwas be able to unicode() a 8-bit-string returned from xmlrpclib
<reinhard> with default encoding
<reinhard> no matter what the default encoding is set to
<ra3vat> at least it works for me now :)
<reinhard> wow, that site.py even has support for setting the default encoding depending on the locale
<reinhard> i wonder why that isn't the default acutally
<reinhard> doh
<ra3vat> and you could define your own sitecustomize module
<reinhard> so it actually gets down to what you said before
<kilo> here i have this site.py in /usr/lib/python2.3/site.py
<reinhard> remove the 'utf-8' from unicode statement
<reinhard> let me test
<reinhard> *sigh* ra3vat: you were completely right from the very start
<reinhard> sorry I did not believe you
<reinhard> your change fixes it perfectly
<reinhard> but at least now I *understand* why it does
<dimas> :)
<dimas> it's ok, just glad i could use it now on sarge :)
<reinhard> kilo: reinhard: hotline, clean new install. stammdaten.gfd gives error when switching between tabs
<reinhard> kilo: can you give me an error message? it works for me
<kilo> started form, did nothing on Mitarbeiter page, then tried to click on Grund, and gt the following
<kilo> Traceback (most recent call last):
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/widgets/form/wrappers.py", line 216, in notebookTabHandler
<kilo>     self.uiform._eventHandler (action)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/events/EventController.py", line 111, in dispatchEvent
<kilo>     handler(event)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 692, in gotoPage
<kilo>     _form = event._form)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/events/EventController.py", line 111, in dispatchEvent
<kilo>     handler(event)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/_base/UIdriver.py", line 352, in switchFocus
<kilo>     self.dispatchEvent ('beginEDITMODE', object, _form = object._form)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/events/EventController.py", line 111, in dispatchEvent
<kilo>     handler(event)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFInstance.py", line 516, in __beforeEvent
<kilo>     event._form._currentEntry.subEventHandler.dispatchEvent (event)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/common/events/EventController.py", line 111, in dispatchEvent
<kilo>     handler(event)
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFDisplayHandler.py", line 126, in beginEdit
<kilo>     self.editing = self.field.isEditable(event._form.getCurrentMode())
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFForm.py", line 320, in getCurrentMode
<kilo>     elif self._currentBlock.isEmpty():
<kilo>    File "/home/gabor/SVN/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/GFObjects/GFBlock.py", line 341, in isEmpty
<kilo>     return self._resultSet.current.isEmpty()
<kilo>  AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'isEmpty'
<reinhard> oh sorry
<reinhard> i *can* reproduce
<reinhard> tried wrong form...
<btami> lol
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<lekma> hi all
<kilo> rotfl
<btami> hi lekma
<kilo> hi lekma
<reinhard> hi lekma
<dimas> hi lekma
<dimas> reinhard: what is the status of gl.gcd in luca? are you using it somewhere?
<lekma> i am wondering if we should now continue to svn up every day, or wait up until the appserver is bit stable again (your mail scared us, reinhard :) )
<kilo> if i were you, i would use the released version for some time
<dimas> reinhard: now a could test pw_xmlrpc on python2.2 again
<reinhard> gl.gcd is in the middle of development, not used anywhere and far from usable
<reinhard> lekma: we released appserver yesterday, which is stable and you should update now
<reinhard> next we implement find() of uncommitted instances, and this is something that will require *good* and *broad* testing before it should be used in production environments
<reinhard> and it could well be that svn might be non functional at some points
<reinhard> we will most probably do prereleases á la 0.3.90, 0.3.91 etc that should be fairly stable
<reinhard> but you should consider them beta
<reinhard> even more beta than gnue generally is ;-)
<reinhard> but that's how software development is: every step forward in function starts with a step back in stability
<reinhard> kilo: hotline should be fixed now
<lekma> reinhard: ok
<kilo> reinhard: thx, and also thx for updating english forms too
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<reinhard> hmm
<reinhard> could it be that the new web pages don't contain the roadmap any more?
<jamest> dunno
<jamest> looks like it's missing
<mnemoc_> no more roadmap, just chaos^Wbazar on the future
<reinhard> jamest: not that I couldn't live with a simple TODO file
<reinhard> I've never understood the reasoning behind creating empty HTML pages from our empty ROADMAP.in files ;-)
<mnemoc_> *g*
<dimas> reinhard: pw_xmlrpc works with python2.2 too, could you revert r6858 commit?
<reinhard> dimas: really?
<reinhard> ah sh*t
<reinhard> ok I'll revert it :)
<dimas> with last fixes it does :)
<reinhard> thanks for testing
<reinhard> it was just the exception in ClientAdapter.py, wasn't it?
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<dimas> yes
<dimas> reinhard: thanks you for fixing.. back and forth :)
<soda> hej im makin little steps, its marvelous
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* dimas agreed
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<soda> but i have little problem, gnue-designer is killin very offen
<soda> i do not know why ?
<reinhard> designer hasn't gotten that TLC it would need lately
<soda> Segmentation fault
<soda> i know now :)
<reinhard> soda: maybe you use wxwindows 2.5?
<mnemoc_> can't gnue-designer be execed inside python's debugger?
<mnemoc_> reinhard: is wx2.5.x bad?
<reinhard> AFAIK designer needs wxpython 2.4 and doesn't work with 2.5
<mnemoc_> oh
<reinhard> 2.5 did some incompatible changes that broke designer
<soda> 2.4
<reinhard> all AFAIK
<reinhard> not using designer at all...
<mnemoc_> your 'know' is enough to me
<kilo> reinhard is right
<soda> right now im using vi :)
<reinhard> soda: that's what I use, too:))
<kilo> designer splash should include 'press Ctrl+S every 5 secs, brotha!'
<mnemoc_> auto-save every 5-secs would be a good feature ;)
<reinhard> hmmm... didn't we unify the command line options of our tools?
<reinhard> gnue-schema still uses --connection where others use --database
<dimas> reinhard: which one is more logical for you?
<reinhard> I don't care too much
<reinhard> we had the discussion at some point and IIRC we agreed on one of them
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<reinhard> hmmm
<reinhard> or was it the different short options for --username?
<reinhard> and I'm mixing things up?
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<mnemoc_> reinhard: does designer support gtk2 instead of wx as gui?
<reinhard> no
<mnemoc_> :(
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<soda> hmmm oki my little aplication seems to work fine
<reinhard> soda: congrats!
<soda> danke, you want some screenshoot ?
<reinhard> may I ask what you use?
<reinhard> which db, which ui, python version, os distribution
<reinhard> appserver or non-appserver
<soda> of course wait a sec
<soda> postgresql     7.4.6-5
<soda> python         2.3.4-5
<soda> libwxgtk2.4    2.4.2.6
<soda> debian 3.1 @ 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8
<reinhard> soda: thanks
<soda> non-appserver
<soda> no problem
<soda> :)
<mnemoc_> and the screenshots? :)
<soda> http://www.paw.pl/~sodium/gnue.jpg
<soda> viola
<jcater> very nice
<jcater> did you hand-craft the form in xml, or use designer?
<holycow> very cool
<soda> at the biggining i tried to use designer, but i was getting seg fault and finished it in vi
<soda> i had written same erm/crm for my firm
<soda> and i will try to rewrite it in gnue
<soda> thats a pitty that it is designed for textile/dyehouse stuff
<soda> and nobody will use it :(
<soda> it is a very f....n strange topic to write application
<jamest> had anyone changed GConnection lately?
<soda> oks , im going home, i`ll be back :)
<reinhard> soda: cool screenshot
<reinhard> jamest: don't remember off hand
<dimas> reinhard: what is trunk/base? how to get it?
<reinhard> that's gnue-luca
<reinhard> ......../base
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<reinhard> I wonder if the commit mails could be set up to show the name of the repository
<jcater> reinhard: I'll look in a sec
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<dimas> ok
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<johannesV> reinhard, are you here atm ?
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<kilo> soda: very good looking form, congrats!
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<reinhard> johannesV_: here
<johannesV_> ah
<johannesV_> someone asked me today if i can install a 'new suse' onto his notebook ...
<johannesV_> of course i said "no, i can't"
<reinhard> hehe
<reinhard> I would have bet on that :)
<johannesV_> but i could do it with a debian instead ...
<johannesV_> my question is now: what would you prefer: sarge or ubuntu ?
<reinhard> for a desktop user with no special needs probably ubuntu
<johannesV_> well, at least i need open office or something like that ... (preferably in german)
<reinhard> yeah, ubuntu contains all that
<reinhard> you just have to manually apt-get a few packages
<johannesV_> hm, ok
<johannesV_> can i do this with the discs you gave me ?
<johannesV_> or shall i dl some new ones ?
<reinhard> myspell-de-at openoffice.org-l10n-de openoffice.org-help-de mozilla-firefox-locale-de
<reinhard> are the packages you manually have to install for german support
<reinhard> the disks are ok
<johannesV_> great
<reinhard> I would go with warty
<reinhard> (which is what is on the disks)
<johannesV_> what about the size of download using ubuntu. how many MB's will i dl till i'm done
<reinhard> not much
<reinhard> well, might be that they had some security updates
<reinhard> IIRC also on X
<reinhard> so if you want you can come and install here
<johannesV_> that's ok, but the main part is on the discs
<reinhard> yes
<reinhard> you can always cancel when you see the MB count for apt-get :)
<johannesV_> maybe i'll come and do so -- depends a bit on the timeline :) as he's from frankfurt and will leave on monday
<reinhard> actually, if you don't use security updates and you don'T need german openoffice/firefox, you could go without network connection at all
<reinhard> all of gnome, english openoffice, english firefox is all on CD
<johannesV_> well, in this case i can do it from here (since i have about 800 mb for free this month)
<reinhard> like I said
<johannesV_> anyway, i'll look for an upgrade to 2gb tomorrow
<reinhard> I don't know hom much the security updates are
<johannesV_> as i've created an account on toggolino.de for lucas last week, and that flash-stuff consumes a lot of data ... :)
<reinhard> hehe
<jcater> gack
<jcater> reinhard: I just accidentally committed some gnue-common stuff I'd done a few months ago
<jcater> I think it's only comment-related stuff
<reinhard> ok
<jcater> but can you svn update and make sure I didn't break anything
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<reinhard> i think i'll have a look at the commit mail first :)
<jcater> but to answer your earlier question
<jcater> yes, we can add a subject prefix to the commit messages :)
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<reinhard> jcater: looks like you added a decimal module
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<jcater> reinhard: yes, the new things were valid
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<jcater> stuff that I needed to commit
<jcater> it's the GTrigger, __init__.py and related stuff that I was worried about
<reinhard> GTrigger just adds an optional parameter
<reinhard> to a constructor function
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<reinhard> __init__ adds the decimal module and sets Decimal in the namespace
<reinhard> and also adds a gStartupStatus to builtins
<reinhard> so I think it should do no harm
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<jcater> hmm
<jcater> do we still support python2.1 ?
<jcater> if so, I need to comment out that import in the __init__.py
<reinhard> we claim to
<chillywilly> sup dudes?
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<reinhard> off for today
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<holycow> http://www.samsungcontact.com/en/  <-- check it out, another calendaring/email solution on linux
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<dimas> anyone uses <class name="foobar" filter="gnue_company"> things? that produce additional fields at login prompt
<dimas> should i first load some data to have gnue_company available to choose?
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* dimas is reading old backlogs
<kilo> dimas: i've tried but gave up due to some errors. but it was at least 2 months ago...
* kilo wondering what toggolino is, but i get Browser: Problem, Betriebssystem: Problem...
<dimas> kilo: thanks, removed for now, have another things to fight with :)
<dimas> kilo: question about invoice module
<dimas>    <property name="seller"         type="INV_Company"          nullable="False"    comment="who wants money...
<dimas>     <property name="buyer"          type="ORG_Org"              nullable="False"    comment="who pays..." />
<dimas> why seller has no references to ORG_Org?
<dimas> seller as INV_Company defined separately from base module
<dimas> independently
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<dimas> kilo: why there is no .gld defined for invoice and other base stuff? is it helpful to add some?
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<kilo> dimas: you here?
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<kilo> dimas: INV_Company contains a lot of specialized fields, or better, parameters for the company that produces the invoice.
<kilo> it could have been done via ORG_Org and customizating it in another module, but imho it is not worth it
<kilo> dimas: although sometimes I use gld files, it is not very often - or better, it is very rare. that is why i did not include them, but if you like them, go ahead and create some, it is most welcome!
<nickr> org.ORG_Org:org
<kilo> nickr: semantic error...
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