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<btami> good morning
<reinhard> good morning all
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<ccfiel> hello ppl..
<dimas> hello all
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<johannesV> ok, guys
<johannesV> as you might have noticed appserver got back dirty reads
<johannesV> please do some *good* testing
<johannesV> ok, i've to prepare for a journey now. if find some bugs in appserver, maybe reinhard can give you some help
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<jamest_> there any samples of the <sortorder> tag?
<reinhard>   <datasource name="dtsPerson" connection="appserver" table="address_person">
<reinhard>     <sortorder>
<reinhard>       <sortfield name="address_name" descending="True"/>
<reinhard>       <sortfield name="address_zip" descending="False" />
<reinhard>     </sortorder>
<reinhard> appserver sample.gfd
<jamest_> thanks!
<jamest_> i've been noticing something odd lately with datasources
<jamest_> if I have a primary/foreign key relationship between two postgresql tables
<jamest_> and in the fk table i use a key that isn't the the pk table
<jamest_> the datasource is issueing a rollback on the commit() but it's not issuing any type of error
<jamest_> i seem to recall that datasources went to an exception model a while back
<jamest_> but I thought forms was updated to support that
<jamest_> is there somewhere I should start looking to fix what I consider an error?
<reinhard> I guess the exception gets eaten somewhere
<reinhard> I'd start to watch where the exception is still there and where it's eaten
<reinhard> like form.commit, datasource.commit etc.
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<someon> holycow: did you ever get the Repository set up?  I'm looking to set up a local too....
<holycow> no, not yet, it's low on my todo list
<holycow> albeit if we are still talking debian, wget a mirror and drop it into apache is all thats needed :)
<someon> ERm...  I have an air-gap in the way :P
<ajmitch> morning
<reinhard> evening :)
* ajmitch is still patiently waiting for DAM
<ajmitch> I even redid all the packaging on my dotgnu packages last night
<reinhard> patience is a very important attribute of a DD, isn't it?
<reinhard> ;-)
<holycow> debian would greatly benefit from doing what gnome did with the time based releases
<ajmitch> you mean ubuntu? ;)
<chillywilly> wth is ubuntu exactly?
<holycow> hehe :)
<holycow> thats a good point
<chillywilly> a distro?
<ajmitch> yes, chillywilly
<holycow> yeah, its basically debian
<holycow> based off of stable and unstable
<ajmitch> a debian-based distro on a 6-monthly schedule
<ajmitch> based off unstable, not stable
<holycow> they fork packages until their patches are accepted back to debian proper which is what sets them apart
<holycow> oh unstable is it?
<holycow> neat
<chillywilly> ubuntu has a plone site
<ajmitch> yes
<reinhard> ubuntu rocks my socks for desktops
<ajmitch> it seems fairly functional for that purpose
<reinhard> yeah
<reinhard> and has quite a good "works out of the box" feeling
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<reinhard> good night all
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<someon> holycow:  Have you looked at Ubuntu at all?  I'm surprised at their CD-ship offer....
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<holycow> someon, so am i
<holycow> i have, it's fine for some people but i don't like it
<holycow> well i'm not sure i can say that
<holycow> i like the fact they are so close to debian
<holycow> and that their work is helping debian speed up its development process
<holycow> gnome for example dropped into sarge very smoothly this time around and i think they had a lot to do with it
<holycow> but as per their website
<holycow> they arent debian, and will hold forks of packages until the patches get accepted into debian proper
<holycow> which is fine, but i don't know if at some point they will haveto permanently fork some packages
<holycow> for me personally i just like debian, warts and all
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<someon> I did a "pure" install around christmas, and it was loaded with boot errors (dmesg) ...  though I like the update programs.
<jamest> ?
<someon> I'm using Knoppix on two systems, and love apt...
<someon> but one of the ones I've got is air-gapped, so apt doesn't work so hot.
<someon> jamest: convo from before you came in..  sorry.
<jamest> i think if you get a copy of a connected /var/cache/apt
<jamest> say via cd
<jamest> the system will use that just fine
<jamest> i think
<someon> not sure...  can't remember if the packages actually stick around in /var/cache/apt or not...  I know that one of the opts to apt-get wil just bring the packages, not update them.
<someon> problem with that plan is that the machines are no longer in synch.
<jamest> they stick until you do an apt-get clean
<someon> doesn't it also do something about 48 hrs?
<someon> or is that just Synaptic?
<jamest> i don't clean my cache much
<jamest> and I have versions of whois in there from apt, may, and dec
<jamest> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    66336 Feb 11  2004 po-debconf_0.8.10_all.deb
<jamest> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    66696 Apr 24  2004 po-debconf_0.8.11_all.deb
<jamest> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    66564 Jul 18  2004 po-debconf_0.8.12_all.deb
<jamest> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    72868 Nov 27 09:47 po-debconf_0.8.15_all.deb
<someon> cool
<someon> I'm just not sure how realistic updating that way will be
<someon> Stupid air-gap
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