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<btami> good morning
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<gifappel> good morning btami
<gifappel> what is the preffered gui library for GNUe?
<gifappel> s/preffered/preferred/
<johannesV> good morning
<johannesV> gifappel, on which os ?
<gifappel> good morning johannes
<gifappel> OS = Linux
<johannesV> so i'd say best is gtk2
<gifappel> Your answer implies that I have a choice?
<johannesV> yes, of course
<johannesV> you can use wx or curses as well
<johannesV> well, curses is not really a 'gui'
<johannesV> since it's not graphical
<gifappel> Sounds like a cool design
<gifappel> How is it done?
<gifappel> (I'm assuming that its possible to generate multiple interfaces from the same source, or am I being too optimistic?)
<johannesV> well, you define a form-definition (a gfd file) and then you can start "gnue-forms -u gtk2 foo.gfd" or "gnue-forms -u wx foo.gfd" or "gnue-forms -u curses foo.gfd" ...
<johannesV> (assuming you have all that libs available)
<gifappel> very cool!
<gifappel> I'll have to test that for myself
<gifappel> Do you have an FAQ that discuss licensing policies in GNUe?
<gifappel> I want to "sell" GNUe to my company to use as a development environment
<gifappel> And one of the things they're bound to ask is if the GPL that GNUe uses would have an impact on their choice of licensing
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<gifappel> johannes: I just tested 3 different interfaces on the same gfd file
<gifappel> sample.gfd in gnue-appserver/samples
<gifappel> works great!
<gifappel> I tested it with hellowrold2.gfd and contact.gfd in gnue-forms/samples as well
<gifappel> I found some weird behaviour when running gnue-forms/samples/contact.gfd with a gtk2 interface
<gifappel> The curses and wx interfaces for the same contact.gfd seems fine though
<johannesV> really ?
<johannesV> what kind of weird behaviour do you encounter using gtk2 ?
<johannesV> oj
<johannesV> i see
* johannesV lookin at the form
<johannesV> it's missing a tabbed-attribute in the form-tag
<johannesV> erm layout-tag
<johannesV> gifappel, do you have svn-access ?
<johannesV> if so, please svn-up and try it again
<johannesV> hmm, but i'd have to check the gtk2-driver, maybe it could handle multiple pages with having tabs too
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<gifappel> johannes:  just checked out revision 6925
<gifappel> the new contact.gfd works fine
<gifappel> suddenly I see tabs at the top
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<gifappel> Is it possible to do a subversion checkout through a http proxy?
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<johannesV> gifappel, i don't know if this will work
<gifappel> A friend of mine seems to be blocked by his company firewall when trying to svn
<gifappel> I tried "svn co http://svn.gnuenterprise.org/var/svn/gnue/trunk gnue"
<gifappel> And got an error:
<gifappel> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/var/svn/gnue/trunk'
<gifappel> svn: PROPFIND of '/var/svn/gnue/trunk': could not connect to server (http://svn.gnuenterprise.org)
<gifappel> So it doesn't seem to work
<reinhard> we have daily tarballs in our download section (IIRC)
<gifappel> Yes, thanks, that would be the other option
<reinhard> also we release quite regularly these days so unless you really need bleeding edge, you might just want to try the latest release
<johannesV> gifappel, i've tried this (as i'm not behind such a firewall) and it doesn't work either
<johannesV> so i'm not sure if it's a problem with the firewall or a proxie then
<reinhard> err
<johannesV> isn't there anonymous access to svn using ssh ?
<reinhard> gifappel: I think it should be svn://svn.gnuenterprise.org
<reinhard> shouldn't it?
<gifappel> The developer install is the nice thing about the bleeding-edge version
<gifappel> reinhard: yes, it should be svn:// etc, but I'm trying to do a checkout through a http proxy
<gifappel> That was something I just tried to see if it would work
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<johannesV> bbl
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<gifappel> jcater: hi, are you free to talk?
<dimas> could anybody check? seems like jan's commit r6918 does not work with wxPythonGTK-2.3.3.1
<dimas> should go now
<dimas> will check again tomorrow
<dimas> cu
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<gifappel> Can anyone give me some advice regarding licensing in GNUe?
<wendall911> gifappel: what type of advice?
<wendall911> gifappel: more information?
<gifappel> If I develop a package that uses the GNUe appserver, would such a package also need to be GPL?
<wendall911> gifappel: depends on the use
<gifappel> yes?
<gifappel> wendal911: what do you mean?
<wendall911> gifappel: you'll want to read through all the docs at gnu.org
<wendall911> gifappel: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
<wendall911> gifappel: private internal company/personal use wouldn't require anything. Any public distribution using the core would be subject to the terms of the license.
<gifappel> Yes, that's how I understand the GPL
<gifappel> I want to know if it is possible to use a license other than the GPL for software that I write (independently of GNUe), but that uses the appserver (for example)
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<gifappel> I just read quite a few relevant sections from the GPL FAQ
<gifappel> It gets quite technical sometimes
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<gifappel> Lets simplify my query:
<wendall911> gifappel: I think it can be done under another license so long as it is GPL compatible
<wendall911> gifappel: so if you are asking because you essentially want to make a non-free release using GNUe, the answer is simply no
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<gifappel> lets say I write some software that connects the a GPL database (eg mysql), would that sofware need to be GPL (or compatible)?
<gifappel> The reason I'm asking is that I'll want to evangelize the use of GNUe to my employer
<wendall911> gifappel: speak to jcarter or reinhard maybe
<wendall911> gifappel: I'm not sure what angle would be best to take
<gifappel> Thanks
<gifappel> Goodbye ppl, I'm taking off.
<gifappel> Have a nice weekend
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<btami> bbl
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<chillywilly> anyone know if I can stick an if condition in a print format tuple?
<nickr> how do you mean?
<chillywilly> nevermind
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<zeut> hello
<zeut> anyone there?
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