*** holycow has joined #gnuenterprise *** reinhard has joined #gnuenterprise hello reinhard sent you a message with screenshots and simple diff yes, got it thanks I think the change is good I am forwarding it to johannes who wrote the gtk2 driver to check whether it's the correct way of doing it (from a first glance I'd say yes, but want to have him check anyway) *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise ok, thanks *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise good morning *** jcater has quit IRC *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise reinhard: hu po translation done thanks hi #: GFParser.py:712 msgid "Field contains the data of the component in Base63 encoding" is that right encoding? * dimas heard only about Base64 I think it should be Base64 would you fix it? yes just a second committed, also updated existing .po files does anybody translate this?: #: uidrivers/wx/UIWXSplashScreen.py:81 msgid "(c) Free Software Foundation" msgstr "" no, actually not ΟΛ i leave it as it is thanks *** sjc has quit IRC *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise hi all forms's ru.po commited excellent you working on other po files, too? * reinhard has a pending bugfix that he has to test before release, anyway checking right now wow, navigator works with gtk2 yes :) it does? amazing :) reinhard: i have upgraded my system and now have gtk2 working the side effect i've lost my testplace with python2.2 and wx :( chroot! :) dimas: don't worry about testplace * reinhard is praying for sarge release soon and we will require python2.3 as soon as that happens and if it will be too long, we will require python2.3 even before :) reinhard: maybe you could require sarge release as well? :) lol reinhard: ubuntu already has python2.4 by default :) hoary at least, which will be out in a month yep, saw that i require whisky 8-)) kilo: rofl :q grrr wrong window :) is there DefaultUI setting for navigator? seems like navigator takes forms DefaultUI setting no as i have no wx now navigator headed to curses instead hmm from the code it should use DefaultUI from [forms] in gnue.conf ok, will check again later *** dcmwai has quit IRC #: GNClient.py:89 msgid "Installs a menu structure into your local GNOME session" msgstr "" how to do that? gnue-navigator --help should display that text as explanation of an option IIRC I'd better write .desktop files for designer, and maybe forms/navigator so that they appear in GNOME/KDE menus ajmitch: I don't think forms and navigator makes sense as they need parameters to do anything it would be cool to assign .gpd and .gfd files with navigator and forms so double clicking on a gfd runs the form that's what .desktop files can do, iirc :) yep, like in win :) ajmitch: ah, ok then :-) I think I would like to have "Run Form" and "Edit" in the menu for .gfd where "Run Form" is the default action (double click) I'm not sure how you extend a context menu for nautilus or konqueror to do that probably needs some appreg magic dunno I'll have to find out reinhard: anything been released today? I think yes common, forms, appserver ok navigator's ru.po commited reinhard: there is no gnue-common/po/ru.po. how to get one properly? run "make update-po" in po dir you will get a gnue-common.pot that's an "empty" po template reinhard: thanks, got it *** michael301080 has joined #gnuenterprise reinhard: I read the logs and got the updated file in my mail. reinhard: it's updated and sent to gnue-dev@gnu.org thanks michael301080 in the mail I also asked for a small HOWTO for svn. maybe we can better discuss that here? what exactly would be your question? how to download from svn? or how to use it? how to use it, I feel like a total newbie here. should I install a gui like esvn to get started more easely? or rapidsvn ? no need fo them ok svn usage is easy you need the subversion package I just need to : "apt-get install svn" to install the tools or what? ah ok there's a good book about svn, let me search... yes, just svn package http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ OK done though that book is very good, it is too detailed 8-)) done? installed the package or read the book? ;-) http://www.gnuenterprise.org/developers/svn.php shows you how to download for the first time then, once you have done that, you can go into that directory and do "svn up" to update to current state * dimas unexpectedly followed link to http://www.newzealandexpress.com/english.html hello ajmitch *** michael301080 has quit IRC *** holycow has quit IRC *** michael301080 has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has quit IRC *** jcater_ has quit IRC *** tiredbones has joined #gnuenterprise *** lekma has joined #gnuenterprise hi all hi lekma *** michael301080 has quit IRC *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** kilo has quit IRC *** jcater has quit IRC *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has left #gnuenterprise hmmm I really wonder if my last commit broke something if anybody notices weird behaviour please speak up ;-) reinhard: are the prereleases usable? *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise mnemoc: yes, they should in fact you would be *encouraged* to use the prereleases and report any problem :) i will reinhard: do you plan to add masking to forms soon? reinhard: DefaultUI for navigator is working mnemoc: jamest was planning to add it "soon" about 2 years ago ;-) :( i have read the code (without python knowledge) and i don't get a clue how to do that but without it my project will be rejected :'( well, sometimes plans change... stumbled across these lines while debugging yesterday: def _requery(self): """ Requery a posted record to capture any changes made by the database """ return # TODO: Will test tomorrow lol input mask support will be in soon as in by summer i'd be working on it now but other accounting projects came up to suck my time however part of these other projects involve migrating accounting to gnue which will require good input mask support I've been considering to clean up datasources a bit :D reinhard: ? stuff like # print """TODO: once this branch makes it into CVS head, # eliminate the GConnections.requestConnection logic!""" ah, cool or trying to sort out the uppercase field name issues add some docstrings etc did johanne find the slowdown in there? maybe try to increase encapsulation and get off with at least some foo._bar._baz._frob slowdown? hitting the connection directly vs datasource was a lot faster iirc this came up last week i suggested trying psyco for a quick speed boost no, you misuderstood as it seemed like the issue was our datasources we added a layer around datasources that does some client side caching and with that caching it was much slower thatn direct via datasources but that also would be a target of my datasource cleanup datasources already do caching very, very crude iirc but I swore it was in there try to fix things so you can use recordset, resultset etc without datasource attached datasources do caching on cursor level we needed caching on session level *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise so if you have unsaved changes and issue a new query, you should already get the unsaved changes ah dimas: any further ro.po approaching? or can I do the release? i will commit now for appserver oh, great *** reinhard has quit IRC *** reinhard has joined #gnuenterprise dimas: so we are up to date with appserver, common and forms, right? common just started, appserver improved but it is mostly what i can do for now ok so I'll push out the releases now *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise reinhard: wait!! ask johannesV about my patch :) ah yes well, in fact there's something about your patch I didn't think of at first sight there are other UI's that still require the gap between two boxes to be at least one character height most notably curses so it doesn't really *solve* the problem (it can't be solved) it fixes it for gtk2, but it might motivate to create forms that don't work properly on all UI's sorry, i've to leave again ... try to bbl anyhow, I'll release common and appserver so we have some time to think about forms seems i tend to create forms that would not ready for curses yeah I think that several people tend to do that :) the question is should we support/encourage that or not i'd rather disallow box there or modify forms *** sjc has quit IRC *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise reinhard: can you wait an hour with releases just for testing it on win32 a bit btami: common is out, appserver too I can wait with forms (which might be the most critical part for this, anyway) ok, don't wait then :9 i had problem with samle.gfd on win32, but well, and facing the fact that we have more or less monthly releases lately makes a bug in a release less critical than it was don't know if it's only a bug in my test database/install btami, can you run appserver without -Z option on win32 ?? yes after my latest commit :) does fork () work for win32 ? no so how can it work then without -Z option ? 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