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<btami> good morning
<reinhard> hi btami
<reinhard> and all
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<dimas> what is a good choice of trigger type on checkbox?
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<johnix> Hello,
<dimas> hi johnix
<johnix> I'm confused about the gnue_createuser property, because it implies that gnue has "users", and I haven't seen them.
<johnix> ie where they are defined
<reinhard> there are no users really yet
<reinhard> that's the reason why this property is always empty :)
<reinhard> but we are planning on that
<johnix> ok
<reinhard> there is a "provisoric" user maintenance now, but I'd better not even explain it, as it's not very useful and will be replaced
<johnix> reinhard : I've been through the appserver devguide as you suggested
<johnix> And I was wondering : is there any object similar in concept to a PHP "session"?
<reinhard> I don't know PHP :)
<johnix> a token that allows to track a given client
<johnix> eg someone logs in, then goes to the next screen. I need to know that it's the same person.
<reinhard> no
<reinhard> well
<reinhard> actually yes
<reinhard> there is a session id
<johnix> aaah.
<reinhard> don't know off hand if you can access it
<johnix> I was already having a heart attack;)
<reinhard> session.getSessionId ()
<johnix> well, the reason I'm going gnue and not access (or OOo Base) is to make sure only certain users can modify certain data
<reinhard> hmmm
<johnix> ok
<reinhard> I would regard getSessionId as an "undocumented" feature that might break in future versions
<reinhard> I'm still not sure if you would really need it
<johnix> well, maybe you can point to me a better way
<johnix> or maybe it's already been done, and I would need to read some code...
<reinhard> I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to achieve
<johnix> 1st screen : login. I have a class "users" with different permission levels
<johnix> 2nd screen : modifiable data. The data can be modified only by certain users
<reinhard> oh
<johnix> This means that somewhere in my code (eg in onValidate) I need to know the identity of the user.
<reinhard> well there you're heading exactly to the missing user support in appserver
<johnix> ...
<johnix> well, that's something
<johnix> is there a way to work around it?
<johnix> eg with session.getSessionId()?
<reinhard> no way
<reinhard> the second form would be a new session anyway
<reinhard> only chance I see is you actually *use* the provisoric user management
<reinhard> until security is implemented in appserver
<reinhard> maybe somebody else has time to set it up with you
<reinhard> unfortunately I'm about to leave for the long weekend
<reinhard> and will be afk until sunday
<johnix> Ok.
<reinhard> the key point is auth.gcd in the samples directory
<reinhard> and setting "authentication = 1" in connections.conf for the appserver connection
<johnix> is it running yet?
<reinhard> and I'm quite sure there is a way to access the current user
<johnix> or is it still in early development?
<reinhard> but I don't know off hand how
<reinhard> what?
<reinhard> what is running yet?
<johnix> user support
<reinhard> some people use it
<reinhard> but I'm very unhappy with it
<reinhard> as it's not a "concept" but rather a "quick hack"
<reinhard> and we want to replace it by something with a concept
<reinhard> gnue is definately not ready to run in a hostile environment
<johnix> Ok. So I'm wondering if I should develop my app using gnue, or if I should find another framework.
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<reinhard> off now for real
<reinhard> cu all and have a nice weekend
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<johnix> Can somebody give me a hint? The app server dies when I start it with a .gcd file in the modulepath
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<dimas> johnix: you should load gcd before starting appserver
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<johnix> dimas, gnue-loadgcd fails with a traceback too...
<dimas> what traceback?
<dimas> what gcd are you loading?
<johnix> dimas, I pasted it from http://www.gnuenterprise.org/tools/appserver/docs/manual/devguide/Basic-DB-Features.html#Basic-DB-Features
<johnix> ok, I added a trailing newline and gnue-loadgcd worked...
<dimas> oh
<johnix> but then gnue-forms doesn't work as stated in the tutorial...
<dimas> should work, what error now?
<johnix> DB000: Error in sys.excepthook:
<johnix> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<johnix> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/gnue/python/gnue/common/apps/GBaseApp.py", line 600, in excepthook
<johnix> DB000:     self._showException (*errors.getException (None, etype, value, traceback))
<johnix> with a full page of traceback
<dimas> and last lines?
<johnix> DB000: Original exception was:
<johnix> DB000: Traceback (most recent call last):
<johnix> DB000:   File "/usr/bin/gnue-forms", line 34, in ?
<johnix> DB000:     client.run ()
<johnix> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/gnue/python/gnue/forms/GFClient.py", line 185, in run
<johnix> DB000:     instance.activate ()
<johnix> and then
<johnix> DB000:   File "/usr/lib/gnue/python/gnue/forms/uidrivers/qt/ToolBar.py", line 54, in addAction
<johnix> DB000:     icon.setPixmap(QPixmap(grayloc), QIconSet.Normal, QIconSet.Disabled)
<johnix> DB000: TypeError: argument 2 of QIconSet.setPixmap() has an invalid type
<dimas> could you try another UI driver?
<dimas> like wx or gtk2
<johnix> ok, it works with wx
<dimas> good
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<johnix> ok, and if fails when I put a "_" or a "-" in my class or property names.
<johnix> Is there another separator character I can use?
<dimas> CamelCase ?
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<johnix> ok, the following gcd file causes gnue-loadgcd to fail with DB000:  InternalError: (3, "Error writing file './GNUE/pointages_TypePersonnel.frm' (Errcode: 28)")
<johnix>  v
<johnix> <module name="pointages">
<johnix>    <class name="TypePersonnel">
<johnix>        <property name="HeuresHebdo" type="number"/>
<johnix>        <property name="RttHebdo" type="number"/>
<johnix>    </class>
<johnix> </module>
<dimas> number should be with defined length
<johnix> and strings too?
<dimas> number(5,2)
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<dimas> either string defs would not fail
<johnix> ok then what about :
<johnix> <module name="pointages">
<johnix>    <class name="TypePersonnel">
<johnix>        <property name="HeuresHebdo" type="number(5,2)"/>
<johnix>        <property name="RttHebdo" type="number(5,2)"/>
<johnix>    </class>
<johnix> </module>
<dimas> seems ok, not?
<johnix> it still fails in the same way
<dimas> what db are you using?
<johnix> MySQL
<johnix> mysql  Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.24, for pc-linux-gnu (i386)
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<johnix> any idea?
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<dimas> johnix: loaded into postgresql without error
<dimas> simplify for now with number(5) and then without CamelCase
<dsmith> chillywilly: Hey.
<chillywilly> hey
<johnix> still the same
<dimas> anybody uses mysql here?
<dsmith> chillywilly: Got an phone interview tonight for that vxitech job.
<chillywilly> cool
<johnix> ok, I'm setting up postgre
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<johnix> How on earth am I supposed to force gnue-setupdb into using a given username?
<docelic> johnix: to manage connections.conf  file ?
<dimas> what username would you want?
<dimas> create postgresql user with your login name, then do all things w/o specifying a user
<johnix> no can do
<johnix> the script won't create a db if I'm not user postgres, and fails if the db already exists
<dimas> ?
<johnix> so I tried everything as user postgres
<johnix> but it still fails with :
<johnix> DB000:  ProgrammingError: ERREUR:  ERRORDATA_STACK_SIZE exceeded
<johnix> DB000:
<johnix> DB000: CREATE TABLE gnue_module (gnue_comment varchar (70), gnue_id varchar (32) NOT NULL, gnue_name varchar (35) NOT NULL, CONSTRAINT pk_gnue_module PRIMARY KEY (gnue_id));
<johnix> I'm getting tired of it all
<johnix> I'd be wasting less time if I was writing my app in plain old CGI...
<johnix> every single step ends up in endless workarounds. I'm not ready for gnue (or the other way around)
<dimas> gnue would require a lot of time but at this point your problem is not gnue related yet
<dimas> create postgresql user with something like
<dimas> su - postgres -s /bin/sh -c 'crateuser <your-login-name>'
<johnix> no use
<dimas> 'crateuser <your-login-name>' err
<johnix> I've su'ed to "postgres", who has all administrative rights to the DB
<dimas> createuser
<johnix> and I still get the above error
<dimas> then what no use for create new postgresql user?
<johnix> if it doesn't work with user postgres, it's no use trying with a different user
<dimas> it just gives you one more level for error to come from
<johnix> exactly
<johnix> ok, have fun with gnue
<johnix> and thanks for your help
<johnix> bye
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<dimas> np
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<rynik> jamest_, Hi,
<rynik> when you wrote the common dev-guide,
<rynik> did you generate the Schema Definition Elements?
<rynik> How?
<jamest_> i believe there is a script in common that does that
<jamest_> common/utils/doc-xml-attrs-openoffice.py
<jamest_> if you're looking at what I think you're looking at :)
<rynik> I was looking att Appendix A
<rynik> I'm working on a manual for common with your dev-guide as a starting point.
<rynik> But I'm not sure What to do with the Schema definition elements.
<rynik> There is a lot of 'No description provided' in there.
<kilo_> rynik: it is the py file jamest has mentioned
<kilo_> it looks for each element's decstiption in GParser or GFParser etc
<kilo_> so if there is a description provided in the GParser, it will take it
<kilo_> but if it is empty, then it will give 'No description provided'
<rynik> Yes, I understand.
<rynik> Im looking at the output from the script now.
<kilo_> it outputs an xml file
<kilo_> now comes magic
<kilo_> you create a fake swx file with OOo
<kilo_> it is compresses as you surely know
<kilo_> uncompress it somewhere
<rynik> I was wondering if one should start documenting something in the code to replace the 'No description provided'
<kilo_> and replace the content.xml with the newly generated xml file
<kilo_> and compress it back
<kilo_> and OOo will read that
<kilo_> now all you have to do is paste it to do appropriate place
<kilo_> well if you want to document anything, GParser.py GFParser.py GRParser.py or GDataSources.py is your friend
<jamest_> yes
<kilo_> or any .py file that has a getXMLelements function in it
<jamest_> in those files are dictionaries that setup the parsers
<jamest_> usually there is a description key
<jamest_> iirc that script builds those using those description keys
<kilo_> usually there is an empty description key :D:D:D
<jamest_> right :)
<kilo_> yes, i've used this script recently
<rynik> I think I found the placeholders for the descriptions.
<rynik> xmlElements
<rynik> has some
<jamest_> yes
<rynik> in GSParser.py
<jamest_> that huge arse dictionary defines a markup language
<jamest_> so GFParser.py contains the markup for a gfd file
<jamest_> items in common can contain their own
<jamest_> like datasources
<jamest_> as they are the same in forms and reports
<jamest_> again in gnue-forms/src/GFParser.py
<jamest_> if you go to the bottom of the file (search for Add DataSource Elements)
<jamest_> you can see where we are merging in the elements for common's datasources and triggers
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<rynik> kilo_, I have a problem with this:
<rynik> 'it is compresses as you surely know'
<rynik>    No I didn't know.
<rynik> uncompress it somewhere
<rynik>    How?
<kilo_> the swx file is a simple gzipped(?) file
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<rynik> mv contents.swx contents.gz
<rynik> uncompress contents.gz
<rynik> uncompress: contents.gz has more than one entry -- unchanged
<rynik> Ah, unzip did the trick.
<kilo_> glad, i was puzzled...
<rynik> Description Tags
<rynik> description
<rynik> No description provided
<rynik> There is not a single description provided!
<kilo_> where
<rynik> In the swx the script made
<kilo_> which tool did you choose
<kilo_> forms? common? rpoerts?
<rynik> schema
<kilo_> ah
<rynik> I'll try whith another tool.
<kilo_> try with forms
<rynik> OK
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