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<johannesV> good morning
<wt> hi
<reinhard> good morning all
<wt> It's 2:00am, do you know where your life is?
<reinhard> it's 9:00 am here :)
<wt> reinhard: germany?
<kilo> good morning
<reinhard> wt: austria
<wt> word
<rynik> good morning from Sweden :)
<reinhard> hi rynik
<dimas> good morning
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<dimas> hello btami
<btami> hi dimas
<dimas> tested under win
<dimas> win32 with gtk2 looks much more similar
<dimas> then before
<btami> ok, thx
<dimas> same form with gtk2 driver showed much taller
<btami> have you got any remaining problems with win32 ui ?
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<btami> yes, the reason is the different font handling in gtk2 and win32
<btami> maybe...
<btami> :)
<dimas> i need to rebuild win packages again (have not done it with -k yet)
<btami> maybe we need a new release too, don't we
<btami> reinhard ?
<dimas> but i'm using it more and more each days
<btami> aha
<reinhard> yes, we will need a new release soon
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<reinhard> still got some things to finish before, though :(
<btami> ok, np
<johannesV_> is svn up and running ?
<johannesV_> commit seems to hang ?!
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<johannesV_> ah, looks like reinhard is observing svnserv at ash ... :)
<reinhard> no, only tried an svn up, but it hung, too
<johannesV_> hmm
<johannesV_> damn
<johannesV_> anything we can do about ?
<kilo> wait
<reinhard> johannes and btami have some processes running
<btami> i'v just gave it up
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<johannesV_> ok, i've removed mine ...
<btami> me too...
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<dimas> if i have appserver run in the background how to upload changed classes into it?
<dimas> sometimes it is required to stop appserver for that
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<johannesV_> dimas, send a HUP signal to appserver process
<johannesV_> it will reload it's repository then ...
<johannesV_> ah, and it depends on wether you've defined a modulepath or not ...
<johannesV_> it reads all gcd-files from that path ... (i think, but i'd have to double-check)
<dimas> what should i do for modulepath?
<johannesV_> it's a command-line option as well as a setting in gnue.conf
<johannesV_> it defaults to the share-directory (see gacvs --help-config)
<johannesV_> it can contain multiple directories (separated by a colon ";")
<johannesV_> all gcd-files within that directories are loaded on startup of appserver and on a hup-signal
<johannesV_> if you have a dir called "my-gcds" given as --module-path (or set as modulepath in gnue.conf) you can start appserver and later add new gcd's or change gcd's in that path, do kill -HUP <appserer.pid> and it will have all changes loaded into that process
<johannesV_> ah, and there's a "/var/run/gnue/appserver.pid" file, telling the pid of the appserver process (or you migth want to change that file using --pidfile option)
<dimas> johannesV_: thanks a lot, will look into that and try
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<rynik> reinhard, is svn still down?
<rynik> or anyone for that matter.
<reinhard> AFAICT yes
<reinhard> we need to wait for jamest :(
<rynik> And you don't have root access?
<reinhard> nope
<rynik> ....OK....
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<johannesV_> hey, good morning jamest !
<johannesV_> can you please kick svn on ash ?
<jamest> sigh
<jamest> yes
<johannesV_> great, thanks !
<jamest> what's it doing?
<reinhard> jamest: hang
<jamest> ok
<johannesV_> yep
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<jamest> ok, try now
<johannesV_> yeah, works fine ... thanks jamest
<jamest> np
<jamest> i hope to get that stuff moved to a new server either here or in TN in the mid future
<jamest> mainly waiting on both locations having T1s (and finding a good deal on ebay :)
<johannesV_> hm, #gnue-commits seems to be not working ...
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<mnemoc> hi, whats the sense of this if on g*cvs scripts:
<mnemoc>      if [ "$SCRIPT" != "" ]
<mnemoc>      then
<mnemoc>        %(PYTHONBIN)s ${SCRIPT} "$@"
<mnemoc>      else
<mnemoc>        %(PYTHONBIN)s "$@"
<mnemoc>      fi
<mnemoc> if it's empty, it will be expanded to empty
<jcater> lol
<jcater> to make people ask questions?
<jcater> I think I did that snippet of code
<jcater> and in retrospect, it is quite redundant
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> if you fix it, can you add an 'exec' before %(PYTHONBIN)s ?
<mnemoc> so killing g*cvs really kills the script
<jcater> how standard is exec?
<mnemoc> completely standard afaik
<mnemoc> exec replace current proccess with the one called
<jcater> okay, changed
<jcater> w00t
<jcater> I actually did a commit this year
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> there is any reason to not have CIA here?
<jcater> it's in #gnue-commits
<mnemoc> aha
<jamest> jcater: johannesV_ said gnue-commits is down
<mnemoc> do you know if gnue-designer at svn builds/runs agains wx26?
<jamest> along with svn
<jamest> i got svn going again but not had time to look at gnue-commits
<jcater> okay
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<mnemoc> jcater: thanks, now i can supervice gacvs :)
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<reinhard> cu
<reinhard> have a nice weekend
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<jamest> mnemoc: anon svn working for you now?
<mnemoc> jamest: yes :)
<mnemoc> how can i list the forms available on an appserver?
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<mnemoc> does anyone have some xsl documentator for gnue classes?
<btami> xsl documentator ?
<btami> we have epydoc docs online, like
<btami> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/tools/common/docs/api/
<mnemoc> something do convert class xml files into something nicer to see
<btami> forall tools
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<mnemoc> no no... not API, diagrams
<btami> ah, i see
<btami> then no
<mnemoc> i use postgres_autodoc do render .dot and .html files
<mnemoc> that .dot file i can convert it to .png using graphviz
<mnemoc> i would like to do somehting similar withouy gnue_* fields :)
<mnemoc> gcd2xmi could be done using xsl
<btami> mnemoc: have you wxpython installed on linux to test designer?
<btami> i'v just committed minor fixes, but tried only on XP
<mnemoc> i can instgall wxpy26
<mnemoc> minute
<btami> now fighting to produce 2.6 packages to my distro
<mnemoc> i maintain wx on mine :)
<btami> what distrib you use?
<mnemoc> www.t2-project.org
<mnemoc> i tagged 2.1.0-rc1 yestarday and i hope to get some .iso for pmmx and ppc tomorrow
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<mnemoc> btami: i'll update and try wxPython 2.6.1.0
<rynik> mnemoc, Is T2 a distrib or not? :)
<mnemoc> nope
<mnemoc> mnemosyne is my distro
<mnemoc> but mnemosyne is even more unknown than T2 :)
<mnemoc> i prefer to promote the kit, not my target
<rynik> :) Just kidding
<mnemoc> :)
* jcater liked T3 better
<jcater> man, that was one hot chick
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> jcater: yep, VW T2 is quite ugly
<mnemoc> rynik: jeru promised to get the new site (plone) running tomorrow, so we can change all that confising stuff on the website
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<mnemoc> btami: ping
<mnemoc> btami: http://pastebin.ca/13826, wxpy-2.6.1.0, pygtk 2.6.1
<btami> have you svn up-ed, havn't you ?
<mnemoc> :p ... ok... i'll have to rsync svn ... somehow i get routing troubles from intranet to svn.gnue.org
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<mnemoc> rsync an svn tree is ugly
<btami> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~btami/gnue-designer.png
<mnemoc> running :)
<btami> it has lots of bugs, but they are not 2.6 related :(
<mnemoc> i need a bigger display :(
<mnemoc> btami: http://pastebin.ca/13828
<kilo> eh, no bathtub on that pic...
<btami> :)
<mnemoc> btami: after deselecting stuff from 'view' they still present
<mnemoc> what the next release orgy will be done?
<btami> btami maybe we need a new release too, don't we
<btami> btami reinhard ?
<btami> dimas but i'm using it more and more each days
<btami> btami aha
<btami> reinhard yes, we will need a new release soon
<btami> reinhard still got some things to finish before, though :(
<btami> reinhard is our release masta :)
<mnemoc> AttributeError: 'IntEditor' object has no attribute 'Clear'     .... crash
<mnemoc> reinhard takes long weekends :(
<mnemoc> btami: plans for supporting gcd and gld files soon?
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<btami> mnemoc: you mean in designer?
<btami> designer is jcater's work
<btami> duno when he will code again :(
<mnemoc> :(
<btami> use vim/emacs/scite/etc.
<mnemoc> i use vim
<btami> i don't :)
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<mnemoc> btami: emacs?
<mnemoc> oh... index names on gcd changed
<kilo> punch card :)
<mnemoc> hehe
<btami> mnemoc: scite
* mnemoc googling
<mnemoc> yuck
<mnemoc> i'm writing a web based IDE... with highlighting :) i hope to be able to use to do my real work soon
<btami> why don't you hack on gnue-designer instead ? :)
<mnemoc> nah
<mnemoc> i don't like graphical stuff much
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<rynik> jcater, mnemoc: When using gcvs I get a lot of 'gnue-common' in the output. You were fiddeling with the scripts this morning. Could that caused it or is it only me?
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<rynik> Example:
<rynik> d99rynik@sapphire1:~/gnue/gnue-common/src/printing/pdftable$ python sample.py
<rynik> 0
<rynik> 6
<rynik> 12
<rynik> 18
<rynik> Scaling to 92.72%
<rynik> d99rynik@sapphire1:~/gnue/gnue-common/src/printing/pdftable$ gcvs sample.py gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> gnue-common
<rynik> 0
<rynik> 6
<rynik> 12
<rynik> 18
<rynik> Scaling to 92.72%
<jamest> is that a sample of the pdf table generator?
<rynik> I think so.
<rynik> Yes
<rynik> does gcvs work for you?
<jamest> the 0 6 12 18 are part of the sample
<rynik> Yes
<jamest> i have my default environment set to run from svn so don't use gcvs
<jcater> $ gcvs sample.py gnue-common
<jcater> what is the gnue-common tacked on for?
<rynik> Oh, It was not called that way
<jamest> jcater: that's his output
<jamest> just a bad cut n paste :)
<rynik> just  $ gcvs sample.py
<rynik> Anyway same thing happens to 'gcvs helloworld.py' -- a lot of 'gnue-common'
<jcater> hmm
<rynik> Can anyone try if you have the same problem with the latest revision?
<rynik> Problem might be on my side.
<jamest> i'm trying
<jamest> rynik: not seeing it
<jamest> from latest svn
<rynik> OK. What have I done :)
<jamest> introduced a new feature?
<jamest> :)
<rynik> lol
<jamest> fwiw: i'm at rev 7588
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<rynik> Im on 7588 as well. But the feature is very good. 'And now some comersials, gnue-common, gnue common...'
<rynik> -'And now a word from our sponsors, gnue-common, gnue-common, gnue-common...'
<rynik> good night all
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