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<johannesV> good morning
<reinhard> hi all
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<erkki_> hello to all
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<rowanp01> Hi
<rowanp01> anyone around to chat about gnue?
<dimas> hello rowanp01
<rowanp01> hi dmas
<rowanp01> sorry s/dmas/dimas
<dimas> what about gnue?
<reinhard> rowanp01: yes, I would expect quite some people here would be interested in gnue ;-)
<reinhard> although many of them just lurk around
<rowanp01> the company I work for is currently thinking of rebuilding their core systems... and I was wondering whether we should consider using gnue
<rowanp01> I've managed to get it up on my debian box... and have had a look at some of the examples.... but I'm not sure how far along it is yet for RAD style work... and there isn't a whole lot of documentation
<reinhard> so you looking for a development platform?
<reinhard> (as opposed to a turnkey erp system)
<reinhard> if yes, gnue should be quite there
<rowanp01> pretty much... but I'm not a huge developer... I can write some PHP and a bit of perl... haven't really got around to looking at python yet... ;-)
<reinhard> you will love python
<rowanp01> heh
<rowanp01> so I've been told
<rowanp01> how stable is the win32 stuff?
<reinhard> several people work on win32
<reinhard> I personally have not much experience
<rowanp01> okay... coz currently our core system is built in filemaker and its an absolute nightmare to get data out of it to script around
<rowanp01> basically... I would like to move all of the data into mysql/postgres and then build some sort of frontend to that
<reinhard> sounds like you *definitely* should have a look at gnue
<rowanp01> unfortunately there are not a whole bunch of linux friendly RAD tools that work cross platform
<reinhard> yep
<reinhard> I know of none except gnue actually
<rowanp01> well, rekall is apparently capable cross-platform... but so far looks like junk
<reinhard> hmmm
<reinhard> running on qt on windows is not exactly what I would consider cross platform
<rowanp01> what is putting me off gnue so far is that I can't find much in the way of tutorial stuff for getting started... I got up the example application with the addresses... but I don't really understand how it works
<reinhard> that appserver thingy?
<rowanp01> okay.... well as long as I can run the client on windows boxes I'm happy
<rowanp01> yep
<reinhard> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/tools/appserver/docs/manual/devguide/index.html
<reinhard> is what we have so far as "developer's guide" for gnue in 3 tier mode
<reinhard> should give you quite some overview about how things work
<reinhard> although it's still work in progress
<rowanp01> I'll have a read... thanks
<rowanp01> you don't have to use the appserver though eh?
<reinhard> no
<rowanp01> hmmmm confusing
<reinhard> you can use gnue-forms and gnue-reports directly on the database
<rowanp01> hmmmm so you do all of your rule based stuff in gnue-forms
<rowanp01> procedures etc
<reinhard> the introduction in the above document explains this a bit
<reinhard> yes, exactly
<rowanp01> cool
<rowanp01> maybe this will be easier than using the appserver to begin with
<reinhard> might be, yes
<rowanp01> one thing... when i tried config options to use qt or gtk2 etc... I couldn't get gnue-forms to run
<reinhard> OTOH appserver can take away quite some troubles
<rowanp01> is this not supported yet?
<reinhard> qt is not supported
<reinhard> gtk2 works nicely
<reinhard> win32 works
<reinhard> wx works
<reinhard> curses works more or less
<rowanp01> hmmm wonder what the problem on my box is
<reinhard> maybe some dependencies missing
<rowanp01> will have a play with that
<reinhard> how did you install?
<rowanp01> apt-get :-)
<reinhard> deb packages? source tarball?
<reinhard> ah ok
<reinhard> the deb package only installs the dependencies for wx
<rowanp01> I'll have a look around I can probably work that out
<rowanp01> cool
<reinhard> for gtk2 you would need python-gnome
<rowanp01> excellent
<reinhard> erm
<reinhard> could also be python-gnome2
<reinhard> not sure how it's exactly called
<reinhard> and python-gtk2
<rowanp01> cool
<reinhard> yep, it's python-gtk2 and python-gnome2
<rowanp01> I guess I should read through your documentation a bit more before I start asking too many questions... but its good to know that this channel exists
<reinhard> you might experience a worse response time though from time to time
<rowanp01> heh that's okay... project has not even been signed off yet
<reinhard> :)
<rowanp01> by the way... just for the record... I work in an antique/rare book shop... so if anyone has worked on similar sorts of projects it would be good to meet them
<reinhard> look for jcater
<rowanp01> cool thanks
<reinhard> he implemented gnue in a book store
<reinhard> AFAIR
<reinhard> in 2 tier mode (without appserver)
<rowanp01> fantastic
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<SachaS> contgratulations to the European parlament!
<SachaS> power to the people
<SachaS> :)
<dimas> yes
<rowanp01> reinhard: I installed the python-gtk2 and python-gnome2 stuff... but when I start up forms I still get an error:
<rowanp01> TypeError: could not convert parameter 'type' of type 'GtkWindowType'
<rowanp01> :-(
<reinhard> oops
<reinhard> yes, that's a bug in the last release
<reinhard> we will do a new release within a week or so
<rowanp01> heh... okay thanks
<reinhard> it's *way* too long since we did the release
<reinhard> SachaS: yes
<rowanp01> quick question... each time I start gnue-forms appserver://appserver/form/address_person I can't see previous entries in the database... however the entries are actually in the database... why does this happen?
<rowanp01> yay on the software patent bill being overturned btw
<jamest> gnue-forms doesn't preload all entries in the db on startup unless you ask it to
<jamest> you'd have to have a prequery="Y" on the datasource in the gfd file
<reinhard> (or press f8 f9 when you start the form)
<rowanp01> thanks both of you
<reinhard> cu al
<reinhard> all
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<rowanp01> bye all... thanks for the help today
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<erkki_> can anyone help me with form's runReport().. is form.runReport('../reports/test.grd',parameters,destination=filename) the right way to pass the destination parameter
<erkki_> Traceback (most recent call last):
<erkki_>    File "<unknown_executioncontext>", line 22, in __main______gnue_forms_GFObjects_GFLayout_GFLayout_instance_at_0xb65f454c____Inventory_management_btnItemsReport_ON_ACTION_btnItemsReportTrigger
<erkki_>  TypeError: __call__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'destination'
<erkki_> is what i get... not sure if i'm doing it the right way
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<jamest> erkki_: i think it's -o
<jamest> erkki_: ok, i'm way off
<jamest> you have a -D and a -d option
<jamest> i don't do to file reports here but for email reports I use -D email -d jamest@gnue.org
<jamest> and for to printer reports I do -D printer -d lp
<jamest> iirc file is the same way
<erkki_> jamest: that's from the cmdline, but there's a runForm() python call in forms, that I'm trying to get working.. (the alternative is to use system() and the cmdline version)
<erkki_> triggerRunReport(self, reportFile, parameters={}, **parms)
<erkki_> is what the apidoc say's
<erkki_> Launches a new instance of GNUe-Reports, running a new report.
<erkki_> @param reportFile: the name of the .grd file to be processed
<erkki_> @param parameters:
<erkki_> @param **params:
<erkki_>   These roughly correspond to the ./gnue-reports options
<erkki_>           destination
<erkki_>           destinationType
<erkki_>           destinationOptions (dict)
<erkki_>           filter
<erkki_>           filterOptions (dict)
<erkki_>           parameters (dict)
<erkki_>           sortoption
<erkki_>           includeStructuralComments
<erkki_>           omitGNUeXML
<erkki_> @return: None
<erkki_> I'm trying to understand, if it's me or there's something else wrong..
<erkki_> but yeah, I can fallback to using system() and gnue-reports command
<erkki_> is what the apidoc says*
<jamest> ah
<jamest> i've never used that interface
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