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<derek> ajmitch: what is status of ubuntu and gnue?
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<dere1> ping
* dere1 wonders if there is a version of designer that supports making navigator files
<dere1> i am using 0.5.0 iirc
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* derek nudges ajmitch 
<derek> !seen jamest
<derek> hmm /me forgets how to work the stupid bot :)
<derek> bigbrother, seen jamest
<bigbrother> derek: jamest was last seen here 3 days, 1 hour, 41 minutes, and 53 seconds ago saying: <jamest> :)
<derek> ah
<reinhard> night all
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<ajmitch> hello
<derek> hey
<derek> i am running ubuntu (hoary (iirc)) doing a lot more gnue work lately
<derek> and curious if there are more current packages (thought what I have is actually working fairly well)
<ajmitch> aren't the hoary packages the latest release?
<derek> perhaps
<derek> let me see
<derek> what is the current version :)
<derek> 0.5.6 is designer
<derek> 0.5.14 is common
<derek> 0.5.11 is forms-wxgtk
* derek assumes we don't make tools match version numbers anymore :)
<derek> does cvs version of designer allow to make navigator files
<derek> or is the only way to make them to hand edit the xml?
<derek> who the "person" to ask on status of functionality now a days? (reinhard, johannes?)
<derek> as i hope to pound on gnue a bit (from a user perspective)
<derek> and i know jamest and jcater have both been busy on other things
<derek> what is preferred way to submit bugs
* derek hates that it won't let you have a form point to a table with no records
<ajmitch> sorry, just at work, was busy for a few minutes :)
<ajmitch> preferred way to submit bugs would have been dcl if it was setup
* derek deserved that one
<derek> though i think this is a different issue :)
<derek> freak
<derek> my bad
<derek> either gnue-forms or postgres (or both) do not like columns named ---> desc
* derek mildly remembers this issue, but none of the details
<ajmitch> ah
<ajmitch> I haven't kept up with svn changes at all
<ajmitch> right, I see doko has just uploaded wx 2.6 to breezy
<ajmitch> so I'll need to get a wx 2.6 fixed version in, or have a conflicts on 2.6
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<ajmitch> derek: so are there any request for gnue & breezy? :)
<derek> interesting
<derek> i haven't looked at breezy
<derek> right now hoary is workign for me (so i wont press my luck)
<ajmitch> you wouldn't want to use breezy right now
<ajmitch> I think X is still a little broken
<derek> just locked up X with designer
<ajmitch> that's impressive
<derek> i have a mild idea how, but no time to repeat the test :)
<derek> i should really file bug that when you have a postgres "date" field
<derek> and you use the wizard it typecasts to "date/time" (which sounds reasonable)
<derek> but then promptly sets maxsize="4" (which isn't too reasonable) ;)
<derek> very easy to hand remove, but i can imagine a newbie fighting that bug for days :)
<ajmitch> file it on the mailing list then
* ajmitch would really like to be able to use designer with wx 2.6 & gtk2
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<derek> two things i would love to see (besides gtk2 support)
<derek> designer (reports)
<derek> designer (navigator)
<ajmitch> sure, but who's going to work on them?
<derek> grr this thing is pissing me off (i remember having the issue before)
<derek> if i remove the typecast on the foreign key i can choose the dropdown and save the record
<ajmitch> the wx upgrade might fix that
<derek> but then i can't get the freaking thing to requery as it things the id is text
<ajmitch> s/that/X locking/
<derek> but if i dont freaking remove the type cast the value disappears when exiting the field
* derek slams head on wall
<derek> er s/wall/desk
<ajmitch> who is actively hacking gnue these days? reinhard, johannesV, btami?
<derek> dont know
<derek> seems this problem has to do with requery
* derek swears some more
<derek> okay figured it out
<derek> i had drug the stupid fk datasource in designer to the form to "short cut" it's creation
<derek> well it made "block" items out there
<derek> even though i deleted the widgets
<derek> interesting stuff... requery on commit seems to be off (at least for deletes)