* derek isn't quite sure how there aren't more gnue applications
<derek> in about 8 hours (including design and database creation) have moderately complex application with gnue working
* derek does note that a lot of hand .gfd manipulation was necessary as designer isn't quite there yet...
<derek> but it is darn close
<ajmitch> not enough people know & care about gnue
<derek> sadly, this is true
<derek> for the logs... (in case anyone is actively maintaining)
<derek> DB000: /usr/lib/gnue/python/gnue/common/formatting/GDataFormatter.py:33: DeprecationWarning: FixedPoint is deprecated; use decimal.Decimal instead
<derek> DB000:   from gnue.common.external.fixedpoint import FixedPoint, addHalfAndChop
* derek needs to get off my rear and install a development environment again
<derek> as i have hit at least 4 or 5 things that were irrating, but minor fixes tonight
<derek> writing some reports right now in gnue
<derek> and they are even flowing fairly easy (simple reports mind you)
<derek> i think what kills gnue to 90% of people
<derek> it is not "web based"
<derek> which is most unfortunate :(
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<derek> sup reinhard
<reinhard> hey derek
<derek> is gnue still actively maintained?
<reinhard> nice to see you gnueing again
<reinhard> parts of it
* derek has done two hack session days
<derek> and remembering why this project is worth investing time in
<reinhard> appserver, common yes
<derek> forms ?
<reinhard> forms kinda
<reinhard> reports a little
<derek> what do you guys use for data entry if you dont maintain forms?
<reinhard> designer and navigator barely
<reinhard> we maintain forms á la "fix something when we need it"
<derek> and if you use forms, are you just using emacs to create gfd's? (or just auto making forms mostly?)
<reinhard> no, not emacs
<reinhard> vim :-)
<derek> same thing
<derek> ;)
<derek> sad thing is designer is close to being a really usable product
<derek> the amoutn of crashing is minimal
<derek> just it does a few things "wrong", but hand editing the files is easy enough
<derek> i have used today mostly just to layout the screens
<reinhard> FWIW requery after commit is only implemented in svn and beta versions
<derek> i am bummed that not more interest in gnue and more people helping maintain
<derek> i think lack of web interface makes most people not interested :(
<ajmitch> hey reinhard
<ajmitch> when do we see a new release? :)
<reinhard> hi ajmitch
<reinhard> soon
<ajmitch> ok
<reinhard> betas are already out
<ajmitch> I know
<ajmitch> I'll have to break upstream version freeze to get them into breezy
<reinhard> when is breezy freeze
<reinhard> ?
<ajmitch> UVF was on july 7th
<reinhard> ah oh
<ajmitch> we're fairly flexible about universe though
<reinhard> ok
<reinhard> will try to have final release before, say, 15 august
<ajmitch> and I'm lucky enough to have been delegated authority to break universe UVF
<reinhard> you're not employed by canonical, are you?
<ajmitch> nah
<ajmitch> it'd be nice :)
<ajmitch> in case you want to suggest it to them ;)
<reinhard> not sure they would listen to me ;-)
<ajmitch> hehe
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