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<jamest> getting some odd ui issues in forms
<jamest> wrt to those dropdowns filled by a detail datasource
<jamest> sometimes the dropdown sets to empty, sometimes to the first item in the list
<reinhard> it should default to empty IIRC
<jamest> yip
<jamest> not a huge issue
<jamest> just something i noticed that's odd
<jamest> might be wx issue
<reinhard> might well be
<reinhard> if you can reproduce you might want to try gtk2
<jamest> not reproducable in gtk2
<jamest> were you planning on doing a release soon?
<reinhard> yes, sure
<reinhard> I have been planning that for weeks now ;-)
<reinhard> seriously
<jamest> i saw the pre-releases
<reinhard> I want to release within 10 days now
<reinhard> just doing last nitpicks
<jamest> but I think i'll have stuff I want to commit in the near future
<jamest> and I think it'll impact navigator
<reinhard> deeply intrusive stuff?
<reinhard> or something we can just include in the release?
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<jamest> i want to start moving the the multi ui thing w/ navigator
<jamest> so my navigator now has a navigator.ui. sectoin
<jamest> and is thouroughly unusable :)
<reinhard> how long could you wait with committing?
<jamest> as long as needed
<reinhard> maybe I can release earlier
<jamest> i'm passing tarballs back and forth from work
<jamest> and i'm still in play mode
<jamest> i can easily wait 10 days
<jamest> as i won't have time fri thru mon this weekend (relatives in town)
<reinhard> ok
<reinhard> I *must* actually release next week or johannes will bet me up
<reinhard> ;-)
<jamest> :)
<jamest> also
<jamest> fwiw
<jamest> i'm probably going to be pulling code/ideas from eric3  (qt python editor) for the base framework as it gpl and fairly clean
<jamest> and trying to wrapper the same setup in gtk2
<jamest> as my tests
<jamest> if you have a chance and want to see how I think dockable module windows would work out
<jamest> it's pretty close
<reinhard> might have a chance over the weekend
<reinhard> just mail me
<reinhard> reinhard at gnue dot org
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<johannesV> palim palim
<johannesV> brb
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<reinhard> hi johannesV
<reinhard> you addict ;-)
<jamest> reinhard: he read about the lack of release and wanted to start the beatings early
<mnemoc> what about wx26 and designer? :)
<johannesV> :)
<johannesV> sure i am an addict ... *lol*
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<tonyto> hola hay alguien hay
<mnemoc> tonyto: english here please
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<ajmitch> morning
<jcater> morning
<jcater> in an afternoon-ish sort of way
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> it's morning on hawaii i guess
<jcater> I wish I were in NZ with some honies so I could call it morning
<mnemoc> :)
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<reinhard> good night
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<chillywilly> jcater: the first country to give women the right to vote or some shit
<chillywilly> ;P
<chillywilly> the spanish speaking guy was from .mx
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<mnemoc> yep
<mnemoc> .mx
<mnemoc> i wondered if i'm free to answer in spanish next time
<jcater> si
<mnemoc> bueno saberlo :)
<jcater> asta la vista
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<kreiszner> does anybody have a suggestion for a basic table for listing inventory of supplies and equipment used for manufacture. One that would conform to normal practices.
<jamest> kreiszner: everything i've seen was pretty custom
<jamest> i know the mfg I worked at had two huge nasty tables for that
<jamest> one for active parts we mfgd one for parts we weren't currently making
<jamest> then when something switched a data entry clerk would shift the record
<jamest> i imagine that is probably more "normal practice" than most places would care to admit :)
<kreiszner> jamest, do they use numbers or names to describe the location
<jamest> we're talking parts you mfg to assemble into other things right?
<jamest> with some type of a BOM listing what is needed during assembly
<kreiszner> both what is BOM
<jamest> bill of materials
<kreiszner> I am more interested in just describing the physical location of each item
<jamest> oh
<jamest> lets see
<jamest> there and at my current job we have/had bins
<jamest> bin L01
<jamest> machines were listed with IDs either individually or in work cells
<jamest> so we'd send raw part ###-##-#-####-## to work cell 4 to be machined into ###-##-#-####-##
<jamest> that'd get stored in bin F10
<jamest> i'm not saying any of that is std btw
<jamest> this company build from scratch their own ERP
<kreiszner> what did the F  1 and 0 stand for
<jamest> and their most experienced programmer was made a programmer as she was the first data entry person they had :)
<jamest> IIRC the letter was a rack
<kreiszner> ha ha
<jamest> then the rest was just a "bin" be it an acutal bin holding something (springs for instance)  or shelf space on the rack holding valve bodies
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<jamest> in my current job L01 would be rack, endshelf, section "L"
<jamest> "0" would be the shelf (3 levels per rack)
<jamest> then "1" would be from left to right the items
<jamest> but our qty's change a lot during the year
<jamest> so L01 may be a full shelf today
<jamest> then later be 1 or 2 items wide as that product is phased out
* jamest isn't really sure he's helping much
<kreiszner> Actually that does help.
<kreiszner> However, I just spent several days on and off pulling my hair out getting gnue to connect to postgres through psycopg.
<jamest> really?
<jamest> did you ask in here?
<jamest> if so I'm sorry I missed you
<jamest> we're a postgresql shop
<jamest> and gnue w/ psycopg drives most our stuff now
<kreiszner> I did back when I was working on gentoo and nothing worked and then it just majicall starte working
<kreiszner> forgive the spelling
<jamest> lol
<jamest> i'm the last person you have to worry about wrt spelling
<kreiszner> This time I used Debian 3.1 and finally figured out that I had to set host= '' because it was connecting via local sockets
<kreiszner> Apparently with an install out of the box this is what you get.
<jamest> what?  with postgresql?
<kreiszner> Yes on debian 3.1
<kreiszner> This was a fresh install just a few days ago.
<jamest> yes
<jamest> you used to have to pass a -i to the postmaster on startup to get it to use tcp/ip
<jamest> now I think it's a config file setting
<kreiszner> yes
<kreiszner> mine actuall has the tcp/ip set in the postgresql.conf but I think I have yet to get the pg_hba.conf file set right. By default it doesn't allow ouside connections I think.
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<jamest> right
<jamest> something like this
<jamest> host    all         all         192.168.1.0/24                      md5
<jamest> unless you want to use your *nix accounts as valid logins
<jamest> then you can link to pam
<jamest> what i ended up doing in ours is setting up dbonly accounts to login with md5
<jamest> then the last line is one that links to pam
<jamest> you still have to setup the user accounts in postgresql
<jamest> but you can have unified login passwds that way
<kreiszner> dbonly?
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<jamest> database only
<jamest> like my timeclock
<jamest> i didn't want a full unix account for the timeclock
<jamest> so i have in my pg_hba.conf
<jamest> host    all         timeclock   192.168.1.0/24                      md5
<jamest> <a bunch more lines like that for various database only accounts >
<jamest> # Normal user accounts
<jamest> host    all         all         192.168.1.0/24                      pam postgresql
<kreiszner> that helps a lot I am going to eventually set up a separate server and I'll try some of your suggestion.
<jamest> glad I can help
<kreiszner> I am also going to document my progress with the hopes of putting together a newbie doc. gnue seems to be document poor.
<jamest> yes
<jamest> it is
<jamest> not from lack of trying though, we've had lots of people try :)
<kreiszner> Is that right.
<jamest> yeah, just never seems to get finished :)
<kreiszner> I'll try to not follow the past.
<kreiszner> I have to go now but you have been a great help.
<jamest> ok, later
<jamest> glad i could help
<ajmitch> hi jamest
<ajmitch> what's new & broken today?
<jamest> nothing I did!
<ajmitch> aww
<ajmitch> I was wanting to see new stuff in svn
<jamest> i think reinhard wants to do a release in the next week or so
<jamest> after that I'll break something :)
<jamest> just as soon as I remember what all these .py files in GNUe are for
<jamest> i think they are the documentation aren't they?
<ajmitch> nah, I think they're safe to delete
<jamest> :)
<chillywilly> ello ppl
<jamest> hi
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<chillywilly> why are you hiding?
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