*** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has quit IRC *** wt has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has quit IRC *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** reinhard has joined #gnuenterprise good morning all good morning *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise morning good morning good morning *** btami has quit IRC good morning *** sjc_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has quit IRC *** dcmwai has joined #gnuenterprise *** johannesV_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** johannesV has quit IRC *** sjc_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has quit IRC *** sjc_ has quit IRC *** sjc_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc_ has quit IRC *** sjc_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has quit IRC *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has quit IRC *** johannesV_ has quit IRC *** jamest has quit IRC *** kilo has quit IRC *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise palim palim *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** michael301080 has joined #gnuenterprise hello all, hello michael301080 hi dimas. dimas: My new boss wants me to set up an customised accounting system for him, would you recommend using gnue? gnue has no accounting module released yet you can use it as platform and powerfull tools to make what you need I just tried to make a report with designer and I don't even know where to begin. I understand the difference between the tools (capable) and packages (mostly absent) Right now they have a custom MS access solution which is not good enough for them. i do not use designer do you edit the XML files directly? i get generated form from appserver and then customize directly not much report though ok *** ajmitch_ has joined #gnuenterprise If I would like to generate an invoice or purchase order (or how do you call that) or a worksheet or something with data in the DB, ... *** johannesV_ has joined #gnuenterprise how do you go about that? have you seen packages in gnue-contrib? yes generate as printed form? *** johannesV has quit IRC oh, so not as a printed report? I would like the ability to send people a nice pdf with company logo via mail or via HTML mail for those who want it (or plain text) you can use any extra tools for reporting if features of gnue-report is not enough which ones do you recommend? they're still on windows i personally can't but sure someone will see your question in the back log and answer later great I'm also interested in deploying some IVR solution for tracking work progress what IVR stands for? e.g. employees call in with cell phone, type in project # on their work sheet and report the progress done on a project. I'm sorry, it's Interactive Voice Response michael301080: for something the invoice that I personally would just write a python app That's what Bayonne does right? i have done that w/ our invoicing and packing slips use gnue-common as the base app, reportlab to do the form jamest: (hi) But isn't gnue supposed to make creating an invoice easy? jamest: what limitation you met that forced you to write separate app? dimas: i have issues w/ reports xml format I want to use gnue so that the modules or packages I create can further Gnue ... takes me longer to maintain/debug than using reportlab w/ python michael301080: i use gnue-common as the base of all our apps in house why did not you use forms for input? dimas: i do use forms for input huh thanks *** ajmitch has quit IRC i use forms for input, but for output i use python scripts based on gnue-common that use either reportlab for complex forms w/ graphics or pdftable for in house reports jamest: great is pdftable a program? part of gnue-common oh dimas: i am working on a non forms input program now using gnue-common and qt but that's only because forms can't handle (currently) what I need it to do you used an LTSP setup, right? dimas: but that work is be planned to roll into the next generation of gnue-navigator michael301080: yes, we're ltsp jamest: was that that workbench app you were talking about yes sound promising s/sound/sounds *** ajmitch_ has quit IRC jamest: would be interesting to document those limitations different people met in tools yes dimas: ... and put them in a request tracker tool. :) that would be DCL then, right? :-) michael301080: fwiw http://www.reportlab.org/bauer1.html michael301080: do you have your package for work progress maintenance designed? my complex internal forms use that sample for the static layout, all data is pulled using gnue-common datasources and custom reportlab code fills that data into the forms and find it quicker than fighting gnue-reports thanks jamest as last I knew reports can't handle multipage forms with mixed single data, followed by tabular data you can populate a rtf or ps template but that sucks when listing parts as you have to have placeholders like dimas: no, I just had a little chat about it with him. it's still vaporware item1 description1 price1 qty1 *** johannesV_ has quit IRC item2 description2 price2 qty2 etc *** johannesV_ has joined #gnuenterprise jamest, I see .. dimas: maybe work progress is a bad choice of words. jamest: is thera a good example of how to use gnue-common for such a things nowadays? well the guy I'll be working for has a gardening company where he maintains gardens and also he designs and "installs" gardens pdftable has a sample app in gnue-common/src/printing/pdftable/sample.py i think it shows most the features jamest: thanks but pdftable is *just* output control, it doesn't do the things like sum columns dimas: and upon reading sample.py it's not as simple as a demo app probably should be He needs an app that can sort his clients by maintenance contracts and print out worksheets for his employees that show which clients need to be done when. ... also according to garden size, etc. michael301080: i have one customer with access app too :( its more like an work planner app. played with mdbtools to pull the data dimas: thought of migrating yet? mysql runs on win* what about sqllite michael301080: yes, but i need accounting too that's still problematic in Linux these days you can use win4lin to run windows on linux and move the accounting app too. michael301080: i was thought that gnue replace all :) same here ;-) dimas: do you know anyone here using a mapping solution (with python)? never heard e.g. so you can plot revenues per location or with a maintenance service company: have a technician sent to the nearest next customer if all your clients have coördinates with their address in the DB, you can assign work that is geographically closeby http://96db.com/pyGTD/ anyone read a Getting Things Done book ? i'd like to have/do something of that only for team nope, but I heard about it before.. Sounds interesting. I was thinking about the same. a lot more things need to be considered: skills required to do a certain task, how many people you need to get it done (like putting in a light bulb ;-) ) well, then small team :) , and when it needs to be done (deadline) estimated time to get it done depends on how fast a worker can get it done, (one could do it faster then the other) If you use a program like that for yourself, you can estimate the time fairly easily, but in a team that's harder keep skills required for automatic assignment? at least you can keep steps needed to be done, sort them, report on them http://shared.snapgrid.com/gtd_tiddlywiki.html michael301080: sure it much more complex for a team but it's that sort of thing my new boss is after ... :-( *** ajmitch has joined #gnuenterprise pretty complicated got to go, thanks already ppl. *** michael301080 has left #gnuenterprise bbl *** johannesV_ has quit IRC *** chillywilly has quit IRC *** klasstek has joined #gnuenterprise *** chillywilly has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS_ has quit IRC *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has quit IRC *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** menomc has joined #gnuenterprise *** mnemoc has quit IRC *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise cu all *** reinhard has quit IRC *** wt has quit IRC *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has quit IRC *** chillywilly has quit IRC *** havoc has quit IRC *** chillywilly has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise *** dimas has quit IRC *** klasstek has quit IRC *** jamest has left #gnuenterprise *** dimas has joined #gnuenterprise *** aspinformatica has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** kilo has quit IRC *** sjc has quit IRC *** aspinformatica has quit IRC *** SachaS has quit IRC *** jamest has quit IRC *** ahz has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has quit IRC *** wt has joined #gnuenterprise