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<kilo> reinhard: is it release time?
<btami> added canToggle support to win32
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<dimas> back
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<reinhard> dimas: can you please test if toolbar works again for you?
<dimas> just a minute
<dimas>    File "/home/ds/svn/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/widgets/entry.py", line 43, in _createWidget
<dimas>     newWidget = self.__createDropDown (gfObject, event)
<dimas>    File "/home/ds/svn/gnue/.cvsdevelbase/gnue/forms/uidrivers/gtk2/widgets/entry.py", line 88, in __createDropDown
<dimas>     newWidget.set_focus_on_click (True)
<dimas>  AttributeError: 'gtk.ComboBoxEntry' object has no attribute 'set_focus_on_click'
<dimas> reinhard: is it worth to fix or i'd better look for upgrade?
<reinhard> I'll let johannesV decide
<johannesV> hm
<dimas> reinhard: question
<johannesV> it's working for me ...
<johannesV> but i'll check wether this is introduced later than 2.4
<dimas> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~dimas/samples/screenshots/org_niichavo.png
<dimas> i have a small button with letter "M" for Mozilla
<dimas> i'd like to have small image buttons
<reinhard> wow, this form looks pretty good
<johannesV> ok, i'll fix it (since this is introduced by pygtk 2.6)
<reinhard> hmmm
<reinhard> I can imagine image buttons will be doable on gtk2
<reinhard> but I can also imagine btami will beat the hell out of me if we add that and he has to do it for win32 ;-)
<dimas> even tried to have them putting file name instead of label
<reinhard> I think it is a nice idea
<dimas> then how it should be defined in gfd?
<johannesV> dimas, please svn up and try again
<dimas> trying
<reinhard> maybe filename of picture
<reinhard> but in predefined directory
<johannesV> like <button image="...." />
<reinhard> like the normal share direcory
<reinhard> share/buttons
<reinhard> probably depending on the UI in which format the images are needed...
<dimas> if i need to distribute them with my forms they'd better be somewhere nearby
<reinhard> it would sure be nice but we would have to check with johannesV (gtk2) and btami (win32) to check whether we don't open a can of worms with that
<reinhard> it's basically a pure UI issue
<dimas> thats why i'm asking :)
<reinhard> so I would leave the decision up to the ui maintainers
<reinhard> johannesV: what would you think generally?
<johannesV> well, i can imagine having an image attribute within a button
<dimas> johannesV: started now, thanks
<johannesV> ok
<johannesV> np
<dimas> which ToolBar functionality i could miss?
<johannesV> but as you've mentioned; things need some clearing first, where to store images, in which format, ... although PIL does a good job on that
<reinhard> dimas: try clicking on delete button twice. first click should delete, second should undelete
<dimas> i see
<reinhard> kilo: yes, heading for release, but waiting for win32 dropdown fix
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<kilo> just as mails are not working yet
<jamest> commit mails?
<jamest> all the hooks are in place
<kilo> do we get them?
<jamest> i haven't noticed
<johannesV> no, commit-mails are still missing
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<reinhard> oops
<jamest> wow
<jamest> that commit list is old
<jamest> only lists jonas and myself as admins
<reinhard> wow
<jamest> i think the mails are being sent but i wonder if the list is blocking them
<jamest> of course I don't recall the password on that thing :)
<reinhard> does actually *anybody* except you and me remember jonas? :)
<jamest> dunno :)
<jamest> i'll contact gnu and see about a passwd update so I can see if the messages are bouncing
<jamest> as I know the post commit hook is running as the irc commits channel works
<dimas> what is the name of commit channel?
<reinhard> #gnue-commits
<dimas> ok
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<reinhard> http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/44740/ShowPost.aspx
<jamest> lol
<chillywilly> um, that is really stupid
<dimas> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/~dimas/samples/screenshots/person_hunta.png
<dimas> reinhard: example of image button
<dimas> another ui question
<dimas> is tht hard to define/implement customasible popup menu on entry widget?
<dimas> something like standart popup in gtk2 driver
<reinhard> probably possible
<reinhard> dimas: you implemented the image button now?
<reinhard> can you commit?
<dimas> it is trivial now and non correct as it takes label name that looks like foobar.png
<dimas> and we're waiting btami for his suggestion
<reinhard> ok
<reinhard> I think local menu would be possible
<reinhard> but if we do it, we should do it for all kinds of controls, not just for entries
<dimas> and they should be defined separately in a form and than referenced in particular widgets?
<reinhard> hmmm
<reinhard> I'm not quite sure here
<reinhard> actually I'm not entirely sure if having a local popup menu is an intuitive way of doing things at all
<reinhard> let me put it that way
<reinhard> if we have local menus, I'm pretty sure I won't use them much
<reinhard> so I don't have any strong opinion about how to best implement them
<johannesV> reinhard, i think i can get pyro to work ...
<johannesV> but it might take till tomorrow ...
<reinhard> johannesV: no problem
<reinhard> I think btami and kilo are still working on the dropdown issue, too
<johannesV> yeah, looks like ... :)
<johannesV> phu, did a lot of reading the last two hours
<reinhard> and actually pyro is no must have for the release at all
<reinhard> jamest: I just wonder
<dimas> reinhard: the problem i'm facing there is not enough space, so i'm looking for things like small buttons, magic popping menu and so :)
<reinhard> if we did a release of forms now
<reinhard> would it be 0.5.13 or would it be 0.5.90 (as in first preview for 0.6)
<dimas> forget for tabbed block
<reinhard> I think I'll make it just a normal point release
<jamest> i'd do a normal 5.13
<jamest> on the popup menu
<reinhard> ok
<jamest> is this a right click popup menu
<jamest> or something assigned to a field in a form
* jamest would like to see per field popup dialogs used in searching for valid values
<dimas> now right popup gives standart edit capabilities
<dimas> in gtk2
<jamest> IIRC oracle forms let you define a sql statement along the lines of
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<jamest> select key, description from foo;
<jamest> and the description was the dropdown
<jamest> er dialog
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<dimas> hi btami
<dimas> can you look in the backlog about image buttons?
<btami> yes, reading...
<btami> i think images on buttons doable on win32 too
<dimas> what type of an image file should be taken for that, where to store images and how to describe in a form?
<btami> as i know .bmp and .ico are supported in win32 API
<btami> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/commctls/buttons/buttonreference/buttonmessages/bm_setimage.asp
<btami> the place can be where forms images (for toolbar) now stored
<btami> <johannesV> like <button image="...." />
<btami> for syntax is ok for me
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<dimas> btami: where would you see them stored?
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<dimas> oh
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<btami> dimas: we have standard place for forms images, isn't it good?
<btami> where toolbar icons are stored
<dimas> those images more related to gnue installation, images for buttons more related to custom application
<dimas> i'd better keep them nearby of forms, reports , on a server
<dimas> but it is not critical for now
<dimas> standart place would be ok too
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<btami> dimas: agreed
<dimas> anonymous svn still does not work?
<jcater> try: svn co http://svn.gnuenterprise.org/gnue/trunk/ gnue
<dimas> and for gnue-contrib?
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<jcater> try: svn co http://svn.gnuenterprise.org/gnue-contrib/trunk/ gnue-contrib
<jcater> (there's a pattern there :)
<dimas> now i see :)
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<reinhard> good night all
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<dimas> [ds@exodus svn]$  svn co http://svn.gnuenterprise.org/gnue-contrib/trunk/ gnue-contrib
<dimas> svn: URL 'http://svn.gnuenterprise.org/gnue-contrib/trunk' doesn't exist
<dimas> jcater: there is no trunk subdir in there
<dimas> co of gnue-luca working...
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<reinhard> good morning all
<dimas> good morning
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<johannesV> good morning
<dimas> hello johannesV
<johannesV> hi dimas
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<btami> good morning
<dimas> good morning
<kilo> good morning
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<michael301080> good morning