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<spacey> does gnuenterprise run on windows btw? :o at least it will run on every UNIX-like system i pressume?
<btami> hi spacey
<btami> yes, it runs on win
<btami> it's python!
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<spacey> btami, great
<spacey> not that i will run it on win :p
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<spacey> can someone help me out on key points of GNUe? Opensource/Free, Fast (compared to J2ee (i hope),... stuck now
<btami> it's free (GPL)
<btami> i don't know j2ee
<spacey> come one it must have more good points that just free :p
<spacey> s/that/then
<kilo> it is cool :D
<reinhard> it works, it is portable, it is actively maintained
<reinhard> it is flexible
<reinhard> it runs on a lot of different backends
<reinhard> (databases that is)
<kilo> and reinhard is always here to be asked :D
<reinhard> except when he's at lunch
<reinhard> like right now...
<reinhard> bbl
<kilo> lol
<spacey> :))
<kilo> or when he grabs a southern comfort
<spacey> is there any commercial support available? stuff like that?
<btami> not yet, at least i don't know any
<spacey> guess you can pay the devs for support? :P
<kilo> would you?
<spacey> nope
<kilo> :D
<spacey> just for comparison
<spacey> think i can round it up mostly. i will take the guess that gnue is faster then J2ee as well :p
<spacey> i hope ;)
<spacey> Gnue scalable?
<spacey> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/gallery/appserver.php <- i like this graph
<reinhard> commercial support for gnue is available by bytewise :-)
<reinhard> nice, that graph is about 3 years old and still pretty much correct
<spacey> great
<spacey> thanks for the info
<spacey> time for coffee :)
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<ajmitch> good to see someone eager about gnue ;)
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<jamest> i wonder if we really need DESCRIPTION and NOTES sections at the top of the file.  If those shouldn't just go in the docstring for the file
<jcater> jamest, I tried to get in the habit of turnin ghe DESCRIPTION section into a docstring in a lot of the files by enclsoing it in """ """, instead of prefixing with "#"
<jamest> that's what I was thinking too
<jcater> a lot of our files are that way now
<jcater> but not all
<jamest> but do we really need that # DESCRIPTION or #NOTES lines at all as all that could go in the """ """
* jcater is indifferent
<reinhard> I've always did docstrings
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<reinhard> wow
<reinhard> red hat shares added 30 % today
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<jcater> wow
<jcater> wonder why?
<reinhard> they presented new revenue estimates that were way higher than expected
<reinhard> good night all
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<mnemoc> enron v2.0 RH edition
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<jcater> wouldn't that be google?
<mnemoc> :)
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<SachaS> i have a python question
<SachaS> sacha@coronation:~/download/python/amara/Amara-1.0-allinone$ python setup.py config
<SachaS> developer mode enabled
<SachaS> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/include/python2.3/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory)
<SachaS> i just did a fresh python install on a debian unstable.
<SachaS> not sure why the pyconfig.h file is not there or why it does not get created.
<SachaS> same for the command "python setup.py install"
<jcater> you did a source install of python?
<jcater> did it write to /usr or /usr/local ?
<SachaS> no source install, debian package
<jcater> oh
<jcater> is python-dev installed?
<SachaS> probably not :)
<jcater> looks like whatever you're installing is trying to link against python, so needs the dev headers
<jcater> try that
<SachaS> ok.
* SachaS sends a virtual donut to jcater
<SachaS> thanks
<jcater> mmmm
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<ajmitch> iirc distutils does need python-dev to work properly
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<johannesV> good morning
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<reinhard> good morning all
<ajmitch> morning
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<kilo> ROMA IS TENDEH
<kilo> oops wrong window...