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<TSCHAK> are ANY of the erp apps being developed?
<TSCHAK> or does anyone actually have any apps that have been developed with GNU Enterprise?
<dimas> TSCHAK: there are no officially released erp packages
<dimas> tools is quite useful already to develop any
<dimas> and gnue is used in production at few location with in-house applications
<TSCHAK> :-(
<TSCHAK> that sort of answers the question
<TSCHAK> but why nobody has developed apps for others to use.... is a little beyond me.
<dimas> this phase is not reached yet :)
<dimas> there was huge development in appserver lately and applications depend on it
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<ninja> dimas: thanks - reading those links now
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<btami> good morning
<dimas> good morning
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<kilo> good morning
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<johannesV> good morning
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<btami> reinhard: just uploaded the new runtime-env file
<reinhard> good morning all
<reinhard> btami: thanks!
<btami> np
<ninja> i did a 'python setup.py install' from a recent svn checkout, and it installed a load of stuff in /usr/local/gnue and /usr/local/bin, but it doesn't appear to have provided gnue-readgcd
<reinhard> you did install gnue-appserver?
<ninja> instructions just said to run install in gnue-common
<reinhard> which instructions?
<ninja> ah, guess i should do the same in gnue-appserver
<reinhard> INSTALL in gnue-appserver directory should give you exactly what you have to do to install appserver
<ninja> ah, i was reading the INSTALLATION section in the root README.txt
<ninja> that says:
<ninja> To install the python-based tools, type "python setup-cvs.py" from the
<ninja>   gnue-common directory. This will set up GNUe Common, GNUe Forms, GNUe
<ninja>   Reports, GNUe Designer, GNUe Navigator, and GNUe App Server.
<ninja> oh, and one more place with out-of-date SVN details:
<ninja> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/developers/svn.php
<ninja> sorry, the wiki link:
* ninja fumbles for the link
<reinhard> ninja: please make sure you understand the difference between "setup.py install" and "setup-cvs.py"
<reinhard> in gnue-common, README.cvs tries to explain what setup-cvs.py is about
<reinhard> err and root dir  README.txt actually explains it, too
<reinhard> Developer installation vs. Production installation
<ninja> you're right - sorry, read it too quickly and missed the '-cvs' bit
<reinhard> also, if using setup-cvs.py, you would want to read README.cvs in all directories
<kilo> reinhard: what is 'done-cbb' status???
<ninja> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/GnueContrib (that dodgy svn details link)
<ninja> ah, i've got a wiki account - i can fix that one
<reinhard> done - could be better
<kilo> ah thx
<reinhard> however I was thinking about changing the status list
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<reinhard> I was having visions last night when I lay in bed
<kilo> well i was just to ask if we need exactly these states...
<reinhard> about the tracker
<kilo> visions??? omg
<reinhard> ;-)
<kilo> a cruel ugly tracker attacked you?
<reinhard> brb phone
<reinhard> back
<reinhard> I was thinking about really testing how configurable and flexible roundup is
<reinhard> like
<reinhard> have a new status "fixed in svn"
<reinhard> (which would be pretty much at the position where cbb is now)
<kilo> check this: http://www.mechanicalcat.net/tech/roundup/svn-roundup
<kilo> Subversion - Roundup Integration
<reinhard> wow
<reinhard> yes, exactly
<reinhard> will look at it
<reinhard> was thinking stuff like
<kilo> in fact, check this wiki page
<kilo> http://www.mechanicalcat.net/tech/roundup/wiki/CustomisationExamples
<kilo> rss feed
<kilo> piecharts
<reinhard> you do commit message "Did foo in the bar, fixes #4711
<reinhard> and roundup sets bug #4711 to "fixed in svn"
<kilo> kinda yes
<kilo> or the message body can show links to svn commits
<ninja> has anyone got a '.gcd' schema for 'accounts', or 'transactions' for the finance module?
<ninja> or should i try to write one?
<kilo> undeveloped yet in gnue-packages, can be found though in gnue-luca
<ninja> ah, gnue-luca, that's a seperate svn module?
<reinhard> kilo: wow, this actually looks pretty much like my vision
<kilo> i'm glad you like it
<kilo> i'm just reading that too
<reinhard> I was thinking also about adding a new field to issue to store in which release the fix is included
<reinhard> so we'd have a "fixed in svn"
<kilo> ninja: reinhard can comment on gnue-luca,  svn://svn.gnuenterprise.org/var/svn/gnue-luca/trunk
<reinhard> and when doing a release, some magic would change all "fixed in svn" to "closed", plus set the release field
<kilo> some magic :)
<kilo> your magical scripts :D
<reinhard> ah, you could set up such a nice infrastructure with that stuff
<reinhard> tracker containing links to the svnview page where the bug is fixed is included in that lik you gave me AFAICT
<kilo> well we should first try the thing outlined in the wiki example
<reinhard> wiki example?
<reinhard> you mean the link you gave?
<kilo> yes
<reinhard> ok
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<reinhard> bbl, off to customer
<ninja> how come gnue-luca is a seperate packe, and not done in the gnue-packages area?
<ninja> s/packe/package
<kilo> was split to simple/allround
<kilo> so luca is the 'simple' version, way ahead of the to-be-complete version
<ninja> so luca is like a cut-down finance module to get started with?
<kilo> kinda yes
<kilo> i dont have much info on that though
<kilo> reinhard or dimas cann tell much more
<ninja> OverflowError: int exceeds XML-RPC limits
<ninja> sorry, pasted wrong window
<reinhard> ninja: luca is way behind what i want it to be
<reinhard> and pretty far from usable
<reinhard> but it's kinda proof of concept
<reinhard> and i'm working on it whenever i have time
<reinhard> (in other words, once or twice a year...)
<reinhard> hope to get more time though RSN
<johannesV> kilo, what about that GTK2-multiline-bug you've recently found ...
<johannesV> how can i reproduce it ?
<reinhard> I think that's the same but I showed you once
<reinhard> and you couldn't reproduce
<kilo> erm checking
<reinhard> and we tought it would be a gtk2 bug fixed in your release
<reinhard> (your release was newer than mine)
<johannesV> no, i think kilo mentioned a pb wrt selection
<kilo> hmm i can reproduce that in intro.gfd, 2nd page
<johannesV> not just input position
* johannesV starting up intro.gfd
<johannesV> ok, kilo, what do i have to do ?
<kilo> bottom entry, i click in there, type something, then cannot click away
<kilo> but moving the mouse around shows i am in select mode
<kilo> so if i click in the multiline, that frees me from select mode, do i can move away from that entry
<johannesV> hm, works fine for me
<johannesV> can't reproduce ... maybe i'm too silly ... :)
<kilo> i'm on ubunto
<johannesV> me too
<kilo> i love computers
<johannesV> maybe your computer is too slow ... :)
<johannesV> or the other way round *lol*
<johannesV> j/k
<kilo> lol
<johannesV> anyway ... this is kinda strange ... since it appears that we're using the same gtk lib
<btami> same bug here with gtk2 2.6.7/pygtk 2.6.2 on UHU-Linux
<kilo> so if you click the bottom entry, start typing, then you can click in another entry like 'Your name' or click on exit button?
<kilo> just noticed if i move the mouse *over* the multiline edit, the mouse cursor doesnt show - because it is in select mode...
<johannesV> yeah, i can
<kilo> the cursor is shown over other parts of the form though
<ninja> reinhard, it looks like a good start, if i can get my head round these installation/configuration issues i'm having, i'll see if i can help develop it a bit
<kilo> reinhard: can you try that plz?
<reinhard> kilo: I have the same problem, for months now, but thought it was a problem with my gtk version
<kilo> gtk 2.6.4 here with pygtk 2.6.1
<kilo> gtk2 i mean of course
<johannesV> same version here
<johannesV> bbl
<ninja> http://www.gnuenterprise.org/irc-logs/gnue-public.log.2004-09-14
<ninja> one year and one month ago today :)
<ninja> <lekma> DB001: 0:00:20.840 [ServerAdapter:452] Unexpected Exception in XML-RPC code: exceptions.OverflowError:long int exceeds XML-RPC limits
<ninja> get to the bottom of it? it's happening for me now but for 32-bit int (not long int)
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<neilt> for jamest:
<neilt> During save of file Main.GnueContrib an error was found by the version control system. Please notify your TWiki administrator. /usr/bin/ci -q -l -m"%COMMENT%" -t-none -w"guest" %FILENAME% 2>&1
<neilt> ci: 2>&1,v: Permission denied
<neilt> Go back in your browser and save your changes locally.
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<reinhard> cu all
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<chillywilly> yo
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