*** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise *** nickr has quit IRC *** nickr has joined #gnuenterprise *** dneighbors has quit IRC *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise good morning good morning hello hello ajmitch good morning *** btami has quit IRC *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** ninj1 has joined #gnuenterprise *** yure has joined #gnuenterprise *** ninja has quit IRC *** chillywilly has quit IRC *** chillywilly has joined #gnuenterprise *** ninj1 has quit IRC *** ninja has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has quit IRC *** btami has quit IRC *** sjc_ is now known as sjc *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** neilt has joined #gnuenterprise *** sjc has quit IRC *** jamest has quit IRC *** kilo has quit IRC *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has quit IRC *** ninja has quit IRC *** ninja has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** ninja has quit IRC *** klasstek has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has quit IRC *** dneighbors has joined #gnuenterprise *** dneighbors is now known as derek hello derek hi neilt saw in the logs that you are now a mac user? *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise yeah i love 95% of it excellent di you have GNUe running on it? *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise and which 5% do you not love? *** dcmwai has joined #gnuenterprise i dont have gnue running on it havent had the time and i am trying to avoid fink like the plague i don't like that it isn't 100% free as in speech i dont like that things like gnue, gnucash and other free software projects can't be installed with the ease of other mac software do you use quicksilver at all? derek: we just need some mac user to improve it is all now where can we find a mac user that would have time? neils working on docs IIRC hmmmm, there's that dude from AZ that comes to mind jamest: the big problem i have is that i still am grokking how mac does things but i hear he's a ruby lover now i am not sure if it would be possible to make something like a gnue.app :) and just download a gnue image i still prefer python over ruby by a lot i am fairly in love with rubyonrails though it has a lot less to do with ruby and more to do with productive webapplication building in fact, right now my biggest complaint about it is that it isn't python :) good man where you at now btw? work working in chandler, az at http://www.integrumtech.com living in gilbert, az (about 3 miles from work) :) derek: http://undefined.org/python/py2app.html Gnue.app, really like the sound of that, and it there weren't 1000 million dependencies, then it might work. s/it/if/ btami: very cool, but re neilt's comment its the dependencies i would worry about derek: fink works really well * derek is scared of fink * btami never used mac with my ability to completely and utter make software do unexplainable things to install on mac type "fink install gnue-common" introducing something like fink is a scary proposition :) I also have *.deb files that can be installed using dpkg but they install in /sw derek: why? btw: it might be worth checking out http://www.edgewall.com/trac/ for gnue we are using it here and it is simple adn integrates well with svn and wiki it has been great for milestone/version release tracking as you can tie things directly to milestones and it auto builds a pretty roadmap that is a wiki so you can add commentary btami: http://undefined.org/python/py2app.html really excellent, will look into derek: jamest just installed roundup :) http://www.gnuenterprise.org/roundup/gnue/ it needs a little tweaking still yep * neilt does not understand derek's fear of fink but it's working and cool i think you might be more happy with trac (but that is just me) neilt: ask jamest... if i get near a computer it can misbehave in ways that defy computer science so the concept of running debian with osx well that and me probably are not a good fit :) it does not run debian i realize that but it is doing unnatural things the great thing about fink is that if you make a mistake then all you have to do with rm -rf /sw its all gone. (except for x11) hmmm i might try it i wish they did like openoffice and gimp and just made installs instead just type fink install openoffice.org 2.0.0-22 Integrated office productivity suite gimp 1.2.5-6 The GNU Image Manipulation Program gimp-default 1.2.5-6 The GNU Image Manipulation Program gimp-dev 1.2.5-6 The GNU Image Manipulation Program i gimp-freefonts 0.10-2 Freeware scalable X11 fonts gimp-print-shlibs 4.2.5-1 [virtual package representing Apple's install of Gimp Print] *** neilt has quit IRC *** neilt has joined #gnuenterprise and a lot more http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?phpLang=en for a list of packages and you can select binary or source (stable or unstable for each) i will probably investigate to get gnucash up and running then attempt gnue isn't gnucash the product with > 120 dependencies yes it is and don't we have < 10 (beyond the std python modules) wx, mxdatetime, and the db driver of choice i'v tried to make a package for my distro before, but gived it up :( * jamest wonders if derek isn't a bit masocistic jamest: wonders if derek isn't a bit masocistic (after all these years you have to "wonder")? from fink gnucash 1.8.11-21 Personal finance tracking program fink handles all dependencies all you have todo is type "fink install gnucash" derek: BTW GUI fink tool is at http://finkcommander.sourceforge.net/ *** dcmwai has quit IRC *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** dneighbors has joined #gnuenterprise *** derek has quit IRC *** klasstek has quit IRC *** btami has quit IRC *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has left #gnuenterprise *** dneighbors has quit IRC *** jcater has quit IRC hmmmm, I missed all the fun *** neilt has quit IRC *** sjc has quit IRC *** kilo has quit IRC *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has quit IRC *** yure has quit IRC *** dimas has quit IRC *** dimas has joined #gnuenterprise *** dimas has quit IRC *** ninja has joined #gnuenterprise *** Amorphous has quit IRC *** Amorphous has joined #gnuenterprise *** Amorphous has quit IRC *** Amorphous has joined #gnuenterprise