*** bigbrother has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise good morning good morning *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise *** reinhard has joined #gnuenterprise *** johannesV has quit IRC *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise good morning hi johannesV u mentioned that it has been a while since you did gnueing does that mean you are back? yes, SachaAway ... indeed i made some bigger changes to appserver yesterday and it looks like i'll gonna commit em today more austrian power power commits good night for now *** SachaS is now known as SachaZzzz good night SachaAway *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise ok, people ... appserver has been changed ... please note before updating svn: *** yure has quit IRC *** johannesV_ has joined #gnuenterprise johannesV this version breaks old procedure-code which uses date* types johannesV if you have procedures using date, time or datetime values you'll have to change that code; appserver does *not* use mx.DateTime* anymore; instead these values are datetime.date, datetime.time or datetime.datetimes now johannesV if you are using your own RPC code to access appserver, you'll have to adopt it since some functions disapeared from the RPC-interface johannesV the open () function now returns a session-object which must be used for further method calls (including login, logout, commit, rollback, request, load, store, delete, call, ...) johannesV likewise the request () method of the returned session-object delivers a list-object providing the functions count, fetch and close johannesV if you are using gnue's builtin rpc drivers (xmlrpc and pyro) these changes don't affect you ok, had a timeout, so i had to paste all that stuff again thx for explaining i wont say thx for the commit until i try it though :) *** dimas has quit IRC :) *** johannesV has quit IRC *** johannesV_ has quit IRC *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise *** dino4k has joined #gnuenterprise *** dino4k has quit IRC *** gancho has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise johannesV: so appserver is only datetime now, but the dbdrivers are still mx? is that correct *** kilo has quit IRC jamest: the dbdrivers are what the underlying DBSIG2 module is there is even a technote giving an overview dbdrivers still don't convert data formats, so if DBSIG2 returns a mx, dbdriver also returns mx i recalled the technote and if DBSIG2 returns datetime, dbdriver does the same however IIRC for *write* access, dbdrivers will accept both i was just asking if the change was made in appserver or at the dbdriver level (I think) in appserver asking poorly i guess :) yes, the change is in appserver the dbdriver level treats datetime as delivered by the underlying driver (mx, datetime, string, ...) but in appserver's namespace (like procedures or language-interface apps) a datetime-value is *always* a datetime.* so it is consistent for those writing business logic (=procedures) and such a procedure must not be concerned how to store a datetime in the backend that's all about jamest: yes, right, you can *set* a field to mx or datetime, both will work no matter what the DBSIG2 module expects, gnue will convert it properly (just checked it to make sure) if it isn't too much of a performance hit would there be an advantage to doing that in gnue's dbdrivers as well? you mean for read access? to always expose a datetime when using a datasource my last statement was meant for gnue's dbdrivers iirc there's something like that already in there ... no sigh, i'm sorry i misread it it's simply not possible to always return a datetime in a result set for read access because some backends deliver date/time values as *string* yeah, i recall that :( and there's no way to find out whether this should become a datetime or not but we've noticed a trend of the DBSIG2 authors to migrate to datetime anyway i just find myself mapping DateTime to datetime in all my apps bbl *** btami has quit IRC *** SachaZzzz has quit IRC *** CirrusImage has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise *** CirrusImage has quit IRC *** CirrusImage has joined #gnuenterprise *** ninja has quit IRC *** yure has joined #gnuenterprise *** yure has quit IRC wow in Iowa, a spammer was fined 11,2 billion $ for sending spam (about 280 million messages) *** dimas has joined #gnuenterprise *** johannesV has quit IRC *** johannesV has joined #gnuenterprise now if only they make them actually pay it Here are the news in 2.0.14: * Evil segfault fixed * World saved and world peace ensured for generations to come * Some animals, including cute furry bunnies, have been harmed (actually brutually mutilated, burried and then their graves danced on) during the making of this release. I just love thos announcements from George Lebl :) *** johannesV has quit IRC *** jcater has quit IRC *** sjc has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise *** btami has quit IRC http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/01/05/73619_HNmsadaptspython_1.html?source=NLC-AD2006-01-05 and i always thought MS Python made for a good joke... some idiot had to go and make it a reality.... ;) *** kilo has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater_ has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has quit IRC *** jcater_ is now known as jcater *** jamest has quit IRC *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** klasstek has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has left #gnuenterprise off to skiing weekend cu have fun! *** reinhard has quit IRC *** derek has quit IRC *** sjc has quit IRC *** kilo has quit IRC *** klasstek has quit IRC *** jamest has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has left #gnuenterprise *** ninja has joined #gnuenterprise *** jamest has left #gnuenterprise *** SachaS has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has joined #gnuenterprise *** jcater has left #gnuenterprise *** gancho has quit IRC