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<btami> good morning
<kilo> good morning
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<lekma> good morning everyone
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<reinhard> good morning
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<ghido> ?
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<reinhard> good night all
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<psu> New GNUe Traffic online
<psu> http://www.kernel-traffic.org/GNUe/gnue20060424_113.html
<psu> loadsa deep metaphyisical stuff this week
<psu> reinhard & jcater discuss the meaning of 'self' ;-)
<jcater> yes, and he took the more metaphysical route, where I took the more scientific route
<jcater> I say self's meaning is derived from one's ancestry
<jcater> and he says self's meaning is derived from how others use you
<jcater> okay, analogy extended too far, I guess :)
<psu> is this a friends vs family debate?
<jcater> "Jason also noted that "the cool part about that is if you have code that needs to happen both on a pre-insert and a pre-update - but only a few lines of the code is different"  - you could have one block of trigger code that used self.action to find out why it had been called and branch accordingly."
<jcater> there was a big jump from the previous paragraph to that
<jcater> that took that out of context
<jcater> iirc, I was saying an alternative was that "self" could refer to neither the trigger's owner nor to the trigger's caller
<jcater> but to the event itself
<jcater> so self.action could be what action is being performed, self.parent could be the trigger's owner, and self.context could be the caller
<jcater> and self.name could be the name of the trigger
<psu> umm, I'm afraid apparant non-sequiturs are always a hazard of doing summaries ;-)
<jcater> iow, I was presenting a 3rd alternative where self referred to something specific to the trigger
<psu> I normally try to write around them, but not 100% sucessful
<jcater> I'm just convulsing my thoughts to the irc log
<jcater> for an errata next week :)
<jcater> I think convulsing is a good description
<psu> heh
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