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<btami> good morning
<reinhard> good morning everybody
<SachaS> morning
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<speedsnai1> hello anyone present?
<reinhard> kinda
<speedsnai1> I am new, and using IRC first time, so please be patient. I have a qustion about getting started with gnue
<speedsnai1> I am running on debian testing and installed all gnue packages, then tried the HelloWorld, but no luck
<speedsnai1> I am getting: ImportError: No module named gnue.common.apps.GClientApp
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<speedsnai1> Is this the place where I can hope to get help with gnu beginners questions?
<speedsnai1> I meant gnue of course
<reinhard> speedsnai1: sorry to be so unresponsive, I'm on the phone with customers
<reinhard> it is the right place here
<speedsnai1> oh sorry. I'll wait of course
<reinhard> okay
<reinhard> speedsnai1: did you install debian packages, or did you download .tar.gz and install them?
<speedsnai1> I installed debian packages, and I just found out the name python refers to ver 2.3. Using python2.3 takes me a step further
<speedsnai1> The debian packages seemingly don't coope with multiple version installed side by side. I think I'll need to figure this out first.
<reinhard> oh
<reinhard> yes, the debian packages don't use python-central yet
<reinhard> ajmitch is working on that
<speedsnai1> trying to remove python2.3 will also remove gnue-designer
<speedsnai1> hmm perhaps I try this, and then reinstall gnue-designer. See what happens...
<reinhard> I think the current packages in debian *require* python2.3
<speedsnai1> The requirements say pythin (>=2.3) so there is a chance...?
<speedsnai1> nope, designer is insisting on python2.3
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<speedsnai1> I am correcting: it is python-wxgtk2.4 which requires python2.3
<speedsnai1> and designer in turn insists on python-wxgtk2.4 :-(
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<speedsnai1> removing python2.3 from the system also is not an option since this is needed by a lot of other packages
<speedsnai1> it seems I am out of luck for the moment
<reinhard> erm
<reinhard> if you explicitly use python2.3?
<speedsnai1> Hmm, not sure about this, "python2.3 helloworld" complains about helloworld: Unable to load the connections definition file: /etc/gnue/connections.conf.
<speedsnai1> But I did not yet look into this. I do not know if I should expect having debconf set this up already.
<reinhard> what helloworld is it that you are calling?
<reinhard> I would have expected you to call something like
<reinhard> python2.3 /usr/bin/gnue-forms helloworld.gfd
<speedsnai1> oh! it did not, obviusly I have to edit these files beforehand. I expected thsi because there was no README.Debian in the /usr/share/doc/gnue-common present
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<speedsnai1> The example is from the initial section of the developers guide. I was trying to use it to test my setup
<reinhard> you want to develop with gnue-common?
<speedsnai1> Hmm, perhaps I should try to find the INSTALL file (which is omitted from debian) and read this first?
<reinhard> I'm not entirely sure what you are aiming at at all
<speedsnai1> Getting started! I am completely new to gnue. Altough I am very exited from what I already have seen from the website, I currently face a very steep learning curve and just struggling to even get started.
<reinhard> so I guess you want to develop forms with gnue?
<reinhard> that access some database?
<speedsnai1> In principle, yes. I am trying to figure out how easy ( or complicated) it will be to create some simple applications for our company.
<speedsnai1> I want to get rid of the annoying local excel files everyone is using now, but avoiding beeing trapped into Access or something the like.
<reinhard> do you have experience with sql databases?
<speedsnai1> some
<reinhard> have you already decided which backend you would use?
<speedsnai1> I am considering postgres
<speedsnai1> Indeed it would be nice if I could find a local consultant
<reinhard> where is "local"?
<speedsnai1> Austria / Europe
<reinhard> erm...
<reinhard> where in austria?
<SachaS> :)
<speedsnai1> Nö
<reinhard> Vorarlberg speaking here :-)
<speedsnai1> Grüzi, Horn from here
<speedsnai1> Didn't expect somone that close!
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<reinhard> good night all
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